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Originally Posted by VABAM Not sure where they're from but he claimed it was unmolested military surplus. What do you think happened? If this was the late '70's, during the

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Old 04-30-2021, 12:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Not sure where they're from but he claimed it was unmolested military surplus. What do you think happened?
If this was the late '70's, during the Cold War.
And the ammo was from an eastern bloc commie country. I know exactly what happened. The ammo was stolen. Messed with, and put back where it was stolen from. And I may or may not had my fingers in it.
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If this was the late '70's, during the Cold War.
And the ammo was from an eastern bloc commie country. I know exactly what happened. The ammo was stolen. Messed with, and put back where it was stolen from. And I may or may not had my fingers in it.
Ah yes, the outgrowth of a CIA/Green Beret project that put the oddball sabotaged round into selected ammo caches.... I've heard of that project.

I just wasn't aware it continued into the late 70s....
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Ah yes, the outgrowth of a CIA/Green Beret project that put the oddball sabotaged round into selected ammo caches.... I've heard of that project.

I just wasn't aware it continued into the late 70s....
We were still doing it up to the fall of the Berlin Wall. Did it in Vietnam too.

Steal a case of ammo. CAREFULLY open up the case. Pull a couple rounds apart. Under charge a few rounds. Over charge a few rounds. We would also test the ballistics of a few rounds. We KNEW exactly what they was using. CAREFULLY put everything back in the case. Making it look like it was never opened. And then put the case of ammo back where we got it from. We used to pay the locals to steal it, and then put it back. We did small arms, all the way up to mortar's.

The under charged rounds would stick a bullet in the barrel. The over charged rounds would blow the action apart. The mortar's. The under charged rounds would go a few yards. The over charged rounds would kill everyone around it. The reason for all of this. Is each case of ammo is just part of a larger lot of ammo. When an "accident" happened. They would have to pull the whole lot of ammo out of service. You maybe talking about 1000's of cases out of service until they finished their investigation. This really played hell with their supply chain. Do a couple of different lots of ammo at the same time. You could shut down a whole division. What soldier wants to shoot bad ammo. The moral would also sink.

In Vietnam. We would do our own ammo and AK rounds, and place the cases along trails the VC used. They would find the cases of ammo and try to use it. It didn't end well for some of them.



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If this was the late '70's, during the Cold War.
And the ammo was from an eastern bloc commie country. I know exactly what happened. The ammo was stolen. Messed with, and put back where it was stolen from. And I may or may not had my fingers in it.
Someone needs to tell the dude not to shoot anymore of that ammo.
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