Nissan 370Z Forum  

Anyone here into firearms?

Originally Posted by Meulen We used to do a tactical pistol competition at our club every year. Local PD vs members. Cops never won! LOL Getting closer to buying a

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > The Lounge (Off Topic)


Like Tree3387Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-25-2014, 05:56 AM   #3781 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Gadgetech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Cumming, Ga
Posts: 1,559
Drives: The Short Bus
Rep Power: 870
Gadgetech has a reputation beyond reputeGadgetech has a reputation beyond reputeGadgetech has a reputation beyond reputeGadgetech has a reputation beyond reputeGadgetech has a reputation beyond reputeGadgetech has a reputation beyond reputeGadgetech has a reputation beyond reputeGadgetech has a reputation beyond reputeGadgetech has a reputation beyond reputeGadgetech has a reputation beyond reputeGadgetech has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meulen View Post
We used to do a tactical pistol competition at our club every year. Local PD vs members. Cops never won! LOL

Getting closer to buying a new piece to conceal. Having a hard time deciding between Springfield XDs, Kahr P9, and M&P shield. I've got a guy that built my AR leaning me toward the M&P and doing a trigger job on it. Kinda worried about doing that for a concealed piece though, given the legal issues.
I bought an XDs for my wife (right) and it's a fantastic piece. Very comfortable for such a small. 45.

Sent from my Galaxy S5 Active
__________________
Upstate Z Club
Gadgetech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 07:24 AM   #3782 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Zoren 370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: FL
Posts: 11,018
Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6
Rep Power: 1913653
Zoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Is the M&P has a heavy trigger pull too?
Mine has a 8lbs trigger pull took me a couple of hundred rounds to get used to it. I have a SD-9 cheap but reliable gun, replica of Glock 19.
Zoren 370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 07:55 AM   #3783 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
HKYStormFront's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Greer, SC
Posts: 14,954
Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd
Rep Power: 52
HKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to HKYStormFront
Default

I bought my dad an M&P Shield .40 a while back and I liked it quite a lot. I'd like to shoot both that and the XDs .45 side by side to see which one I like better as those are the two I'm considering for CC. The Shield seemed like a solid piece, but I think the value is better with the XD series with all the swag it comes with. I still love my XDm .40
Zoren 370 likes this.
__________________
Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs
09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now
HKYStormFront is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 08:33 AM   #3784 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
MacCool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Midwest
Posts: 1,349
Drives: 370Z PW 2014
Rep Power: 16
MacCool has a spectacular aura aboutMacCool has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoren 370 View Post
Is the M&P has a heavy trigger pull too?
Mine has a 8lbs trigger pull took me a couple of hundred rounds to get used to it. I have a SD-9 cheap but reliable gun, replica of Glock 19.
M&P trigger is easily modified. The DCAEK or FSS from Apex Tactical will make it into a really excellent trigger. Easy install.
MacCool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 09:29 AM   #3785 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Zoren 370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: FL
Posts: 11,018
Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6
Rep Power: 1913653
Zoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

My next gun as x-mas gift for myself possibly Glock 23 4th gen.
$575 out the door. Anyone knows any distributor sells cheaper in FL?
Zoren 370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 09:51 AM   #3786 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
RBfastback's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: FM, Florida
Posts: 311
Drives: 13 370z Nismo PW
Rep Power: 11
RBfastback is on a distinguished road
Default Anyone here into firearms?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meulen View Post
We used to do a tactical pistol competition at our club every year. Local PD vs members. Cops never won! LOL



Getting closer to buying a new piece to conceal. Having a hard time deciding between Springfield XDs, Kahr P9, and M&P shield. I've got a guy that built my AR leaning me toward the M&P and doing a trigger job on it. Kinda worried about doing that for a concealed piece though, given the legal issues.

first of all DONT do a trigger job on any ccw, aside from it not being as safe it's mostly a legal thing. (I would search modding a carry gun legality)

don't get the XDs if u want 9mm it was designed for .45 and the 45 version is real small for a .45. (lighter then the 9mm) it's why the xds was created, them they made it work as a 9 after. for round count weight and size it's a sh!**y 9mm compared to others.

there's a bunch of info on that if u search for it.

if u compare the xd's in 9mm to others it's not the best option, but if u want the .45 it stands out and sets itself apart.

I kinda liked the kahr pm9 but for the money it cost an when it comes to reliability it can be picky with ammo u feed it.

when it comes to my life and what weapon I'll trust with it for me it's either the Xd line or glock.
just don't get that new Glock 42 it's absolutely a FAIL....

let me say this before I say me next sentence, I do like some American guns company's and model's. (mostly for rifles).
an no offense but a lot (not all) of the older generations or cops always lean towards 911, s&w, beretta or metal frame handguns and still will not trust glocks for being the most reliable and simple. just because there stubborn.
NOT ALL PEOPLE

also I don't want a hammer an my ccw

just do some more searching before u buy and as long as u are confident with it that's all that matters because chances are u will never use it aside from in a range
( also a good point as that u would want whatever u pick to be fun to shoot regularly at the range an not too small or snappy on an uncomfortable way)

nutnfancy is always a good source of info when it comes to this stuff!

Last edited by RBfastback; 10-25-2014 at 09:55 AM.
RBfastback is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 10:00 AM   #3787 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
RBfastback's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: FM, Florida
Posts: 311
Drives: 13 370z Nismo PW
Rep Power: 11
RBfastback is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoren 370 View Post
My next gun as x-mas gift for myself possibly Glock 23 4th gen.

$575 out the door. Anyone knows any distributor sells cheaper in FL?

nice, cool thing about that is u can slide a .357 glock barrel in and be able to switch back from one to another!!

and I would check out gold minor. I buy almost all my weapons through them!
amazing prices, they negotiate and if u pay cash... u get extra special deal!!

address:
4421 Hancock Bridge Pkwy, Fort Myers, FL 33903

ask for tommy
Zoren 370 likes this.
RBfastback is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 10:16 AM   #3788 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Zoren 370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: FL
Posts: 11,018
Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6
Rep Power: 1913653
Zoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

^ thanks for the info. I'll home to ship cuz Fort Myers is about 6 hrs drive from me. But yeah I'll give them a call.
Zoren 370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 10:23 AM   #3789 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
MacCool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Midwest
Posts: 1,349
Drives: 370Z PW 2014
Rep Power: 16
MacCool has a spectacular aura aboutMacCool has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meulen View Post
Getting closer to buying a new piece to conceal. Having a hard time deciding between Springfield XDs, Kahr P9, and M&P shield. I've got a guy that built my AR leaning me toward the M&P and doing a trigger job on it. Kinda worried about doing that for a concealed piece though, given the legal issues.
Trigger jobs on carry guns are fine. From a safety standpoint, it might be a good idea to not get the trigger pull too light, but a 6 lb trigger with a nice crisp break make for a nice shooting pistol that is completely safe. The "legality" issues are a non-factor according to my buddy, who is the county attorney. On an M&P, an Apex ultimate striker block and machined sear will really clean up that trigger. Doesn't necessarily change the trigger pull unless you leave the original return spring.

If you're looking for a full size pistol with a great trigger out of the box, clearly the leaders in that pack are the Walther PPQ and the HK VP9. My preference is the VP9, but it's about a horse apiece comparing it to the PPQ. Both are truly exceptional pistols and IMHO both have better triggers than even an M&P with trigger upgrade (although the FSS does come close). Somewhere along the way, I developed a substantially negative attitude toward the Xd's. I've seen too many reliability issues and ammo "finnickyness". I had a Glock 19, but it was a piece of crap (unreliable ejection and super-creepy trigger). I fixed it with an Apex FRE and newer ejector, then dumped it. I'll never fall for the Glock trap again.

My personal preference for carry is a Walther PPS. Small and slim, shoots like a full-size. I looked hard at the M&P Shield, but at the time they only made it with a manual safety, which I absolutely did not want. Now, they have a Shield version without the safety and that might be worth a look. Apex makes trigger improvement kits for the Shield too, although I've never shot one with an upgraded trigger. I did look at Kahr and put several boxes through my buddy's PM9, but it was expensive for what it is, and I didn't want to have to go through what he went through to get it to be reliable.

If you're going to carry a gun, don't be one of those guys that takes your state's permit-to-carry course and stops there thinking that you're now qualified to use a pistol to defend your life. Please keep moving on and take some defensive pistol classes as well.
Ghostvette likes this.
MacCool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 10:34 AM   #3790 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Zoren 370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: FL
Posts: 11,018
Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6
Rep Power: 1913653
Zoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

^ same with taking defensive/evasive driving course. It will save your life.
Zoren 370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 11:33 AM   #3791 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
SurfDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Colorado (9000 feet)
Age: 56
Posts: 1,796
Drives: 09 6mt, 13 Sequoia,
Rep Power: 15749
SurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Legal in Colorado
__________________
09 6spd Berk CBE, JWT cams, ZSpeed CSC, Stillen (25 row oil, brake cooling, sways, gen3 CAI), Passport (9500ci), Quaife LSD, Z1 400 hp kit, ss lines, pads, rotors, clutch etc, Phunk's pan and fuel starve fix
SurfDog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 11:40 AM   #3792 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
SurfDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Colorado (9000 feet)
Age: 56
Posts: 1,796
Drives: 09 6mt, 13 Sequoia,
Rep Power: 15749
SurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond reputeSurfDog has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I've been wearing aSig p938 for a few years. It's a nice mix of very small and still decent 9mil power. It's 1911 style so you have to get comfortable with "locked and loaded" It's fun at the range (once you get used to it) and once you get an extended mag it fits the hand nicely without to much "printing"
__________________
09 6spd Berk CBE, JWT cams, ZSpeed CSC, Stillen (25 row oil, brake cooling, sways, gen3 CAI), Passport (9500ci), Quaife LSD, Z1 400 hp kit, ss lines, pads, rotors, clutch etc, Phunk's pan and fuel starve fix
SurfDog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 12:05 PM   #3793 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
RBfastback's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: FM, Florida
Posts: 311
Drives: 13 370z Nismo PW
Rep Power: 11
RBfastback is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacCool View Post
If you're going to carry a gun, don't be one of those guys that takes your state's permit-to-carry course and stops there thinking that you're now qualified to use a pistol to defend your life. Please keep moving on and take some defensive pistol classes as well.

this for sure^^^whatever u get just practice a lot an take classes
RBfastback is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2014, 02:23 PM   #3794 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
UNKNOWN_370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: ny'r livn in tx
Posts: 8,687
Drives: well over 130m.p.h.
Rep Power: 14858
UNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacCool View Post
Trigger jobs on carry guns are fine. From a safety standpoint, it might be a good idea to not get the trigger pull too light, but a 6 lb trigger with a nice crisp break make for a nice shooting pistol that is completely safe. The "legality" issues are a non-factor according to my buddy, who is the county attorney. On an M&P, an Apex ultimate striker block and machined sear will really clean up that trigger. Doesn't necessarily change the trigger pull unless you leave the original return spring.

If you're looking for a full size pistol with a great trigger out of the box, clearly the leaders in that pack are the Walther PPQ and the HK VP9. My preference is the VP9, but it's about a horse apiece comparing it to the PPQ. Both are truly exceptional pistols and IMHO both have better triggers than even an M&P with trigger upgrade (although the FSS does come close). Somewhere along the way, I developed a substantially negative attitude toward the Xd's. I've seen too many reliability issues and ammo "finnickyness". I had a Glock 19, but it was a piece of crap (unreliable ejection and super-creepy trigger). I fixed it with an Apex FRE and newer ejector, then dumped it. I'll never fall for the Glock trap again.

My personal preference for carry is a Walther PPS. Small and slim, shoots like a full-size. I looked hard at the M&P Shield, but at the time they only made it with a manual safety, which I absolutely did not want. Now, they have a Shield version without the safety and that might be worth a look. Apex makes trigger improvement kits for the Shield too, although I've never shot one with an upgraded trigger. I did look at Kahr and put several boxes through my buddy's PM9, but it was expensive for what it is, and I didn't want to have to go through what he went through to get it to be reliable.

If you're going to carry a gun, don't be one of those guys that takes your state's permit-to-carry course and stops there thinking that you're now qualified to use a pistol to defend your life. Please keep moving on and take some defensive pistol classes as well.
I'm actually buying both these pistols for x mas. Addingbthem to my collection of 9mm. I never liked the Glocks or any of it's imitators till these two. Since I can't choose. I'm getting both.
Ghostvette and Gadgetech like this.
__________________
Favorite Quote.
"I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980
UNKNOWN_370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2014, 04:43 PM   #3795 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
travisjb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: GSO
Posts: 2,803
Drives: VIR
Rep Power: 188
travisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond reputetravisjb has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacCool View Post
If you're looking for a full size pistol with a great trigger out of the box, clearly the leaders in that pack are the Walther PPQ and the HK VP9. My preference is the VP9...
Just got back from the range - trying to finalize my decision... didn't like the glock so much, really liked the PPQ. For whatever reason I was just a lot more accurate with it. Then the guy working at the range let me borrow his new VP9! Sweet! That's the one for me. Trigger was as you described and I was able to fire it accurately, just behind the PPQ. Next stop, NC permit, then I'm going to try and pick one up on holiday special.
__________________
2009 370Z #104
*For Sale*
travisjb is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2