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The nut-n-fancy project on you tube has an excellent video thread on different optics and philosophy of use. Check it out.
You know you are truly a shooting enthusiast when you can sit through a whole nut-n-fancy video and then watch another

I hope hickenlooper does the right thing. My brother and I would much rather move to CO than TX next year.
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I have yet to see an equivalent to the 5.56 Brown Tip SOCOM round in 5.45 caliber.
You're pulling out EXPENSIVE specialized ammo. I'm talking about the equiv ammo. i'm sure if our ammo makers took the time to invest in russian ammo. we can most definitely exceed your example. Some private reloaders do some amazing things with AK rounds. AR have more options sure, but basic 5.45 ammo can perform better in some cases than SOME of the specialized AR ammo. @ $10 a box. I can definitely put faith in 5.45 basic ammo considering the huge wound channnel that thin round leaves.
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You know you are truly a shooting enthusiast when you can sit through a whole nut-n-fancy video and then watch another

I hope hickenlooper does the right thing. My brother and I would much rather move to CO than TX next year.

lol. It can be a little tedious to watch his videos but he really thinks things through before he puts out a vid. He's 95% accurate and he gets on a lot of guns. i sit through a lot of those types of reviewers just to get aggreeing and opposing perspectives and re-evaluate my thoughts as solid or weak.
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lol. It can be a little tedious to watch his videos but he really thinks things through before he puts out a vid. He's 95% accurate and he gets on a lot of guns. i sit through a lot of those types of reviewers just to get aggreeing and opposing perspectives and re-evaluate my thoughts as solid or weak.
My fav is hickok45. Second fav would be MR.ColionNoir, followed by fateofdestinee and faliaphotography.

But I do watch nutnfancy if the topic interests me.
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The nut-n-fancy project on you tube has an excellent video thread on different optics and philosophy of use. Check it out.
I'll have to try and check it out. I never use youtube because I'm always on my phone and I'm impatient.
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You know you are truly a shooting enthusiast when you can sit through a whole nut-n-fancy video and then watch another

I hope hickenlooper does the right thing. My brother and I would much rather move to CO than TX next year.
move to CO and help us swing the vote!
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move to CO and help us swing the vote!
We know so many people in CO too. My half-brother's step sister lives there and I have cousins. But there is no sunset clause in these bills. meaning it would require active legislation to overturn them, rather than letting them expire.

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My fav is hickok45. Second fav would be MR.ColionNoir, followed by fateofdestinee and faliaphotography.

But I do watch nutnfancy if the topic interests me.
Hickok is hysterical. I love watchin em and his little amusement park of shooting lol. He busts off some nice stuff. But hickok loves everything he shoots. For him not to like a gun it has to be horrible

I enjoy many of those channels. But i really like gunblast.com channel.
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Hickok is hysterical. I love watchin em and his little amusement park of shooting lol. He busts off some nice stuff. But hickok loves everything he shoots. For him not to like a gun it has to be horrible

I enjoy many of those channels. But i really like gunblast.com channel.
You can tell if hickok doesn't like something because slightly under his breath he will say "hmm. how bout that" i mean how obvious do you have to be

He does like almost everything. But the key to finding out what he likes most is if he has the gun in multiple videos. like you know he loves his single action army and scar 17 and glocks.
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We know so many people in CO too. My half-brother's step sister lives there and I have cousins. But there is no sunset clause in these bills. meaning it would require active legislation to overturn them, rather than letting them expire.

Also, on topic, Crimson Trace laser grips still for sale yall.
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You're pulling out EXPENSIVE specialized ammo. I'm talking about the equiv ammo. i'm sure if our ammo makers took the time to invest in russian ammo. we can most definitely exceed your example. Some private reloaders do some amazing things with AK rounds. AR have more options sure, but basic 5.45 ammo can perform better in some cases than SOME of the specialized AR ammo. @ $10 a box. I can definitely put faith in 5.45 basic ammo considering the huge wound channnel that thin round leaves.
I'm pulling out what's in my magazines vs. anything I could possibly get loaded to a military quality spec (staked and sealed primers, sealed case necks) equivalent in 5.45x39. Since ammo makers for the military or LE have NOT seen fit to invest in the 5.45x39, it's a moot point. I'm interested in what I can and do have, not what is theoretically possible. When they do that for 5.45x39, I'll stand in line and buy one. As of now, I have around 3,000 rounds of good stuff, including the SOCOM 5.56 optomized, 64gr Gold Dot bonded LE, and MK318 SOST. There is nothing in 5.45x39 that can compare, currently, of which I am aware.

However...7.62x39, I have shot a ton of stuff with it. Cinderblock, cars, wood, etc. and it destroys a lot more material/stuff than does 5.56x45, even using the SOCOM solid copper stuff. Also, loading the 7.62x39 with a Barnes TSX makes it supremely nasty. 0.6" expansion, 20"+ penetration in gel. Wicked. I know you can't buy it RIGHT NOW, but it is available and currently loaded, as is Federal Fusion, which is the same thing as a Gold Dot bonded, so 7.62x39 made way more sense for me than 5.45x39, at this point in time.
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I'm pulling out what's in my magazines vs. anything I could possibly get loaded to a military quality spec (staked and sealed primers, sealed case necks) equivalent in 5.45x39. Since ammo makers for the military or LE have NOT seen fit to invest in the 5.45x39, it's a moot point. I'm interested in what I can and do have, not what is theoretically possible. When they do that for 5.45x39, I'll stand in line and buy one. As of now, I have around 3,000 rounds of good stuff, including the SOCOM 5.56 optomized, 64gr Gold Dot bonded LE, and MK318 SOST. There is nothing in 5.45x39 that can compare, currently, of which I am aware.

However...7.62x39, I have shot a ton of stuff with it. Cinderblock, cars, wood, etc. and it destroys a lot more material/stuff than does 5.56x45, even using the SOCOM solid copper stuff. Also, loading the 7.62x39 with a Barnes TSX makes it supremely nasty. 0.6" expansion, 20"+ penetration in gel. Wicked. I know you can't buy it RIGHT NOW, but it is available and currently loaded, as is Federal Fusion, which is the same thing as a Gold Dot bonded, so 7.62x39 made way more sense for me than 5.45x39, at this point in time.
kewl... I'm not convincing you to buy one. I'm just saying, its not an inferior round. thats all. The 5.45 has minor advatages from 5.56 ballistically. But 5.56 has the overall advantage.
I have 7.62, Ive destroyed cinder blocks with FMJ. Shooting cinder makes the 5.56 look weak. But more than all this stopping power obsession you have. Proficiency beats all statistics. I prefer 6.8 over 5.56 but hey to each there own.
If you can engage your target, shoot fast and accurate. The round in the gun will be a much smaller factor.

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for which gun?
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