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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang If only you had a really awesome friend that would get you some PMAGs at his pre-craziness cost. If only. I would be willing to pay

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Old 02-15-2013, 08:08 PM   #2941 (permalink)
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If only you had a really awesome friend that would get you some PMAGs at his pre-craziness cost.
If only.

I would be willing to pay with all sorts of disgusting sexual favors.
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I've been lusting after one and hesitant to pull the trigger. I sold my XD service and still have an XD subcompact--torn as to whether to go larger with a 5.25 XDm or smaller with the XDs....decisions decisions.



I won't presume to speak for him, but I sold my Springfield 1911 for a cheaper RIA that I am much happier with.
Pro's and cons??? I have an RIA GI. It was the first gun i bought in Tx.
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Pro's and cons??? I have an RIA GI. It was the first gun i bought in Tx.
The GI is very different than the stainless I have, but these are my brief thoughts as typed from my phone.

For me, the Springfield was very picky and the action is comparatively fragile. My idea of a 1911 requires a bit more durability, and if I want something to look pretty i will get a kimber.

I've not had a single FTF with the RIA SS, even after it spent 4 weeks in my pants. Comparatively, the SA would get finicky after 2-3 days of carry.

I shots marginally better with the SA, I think tied mostly to the improved sights, but the guns both shot well in my mind. If the SA was less finicky I'd still have it--it's a great gun and well priced for what it offers. It just didn't have the reliability I wanted.
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Technically they comply already, but they have stated that they are indeed going to move if the bill passes. Already back-ordered, a move would throw PMAG price/availability issues into the stratosphere.



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We're holding firm to the stance that if our employees, neighbors, and other responsible Citizens of CO can't own our products, we're not going to enrich the state by making them here.

We're continuing to make our appeals on the economic argument, since all others fall on deaf ears. We're in the 2-Minute drill phase, gents.




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In short, Magpul would be unable to remain in business as a CO company, and the over 200 jobs for direct employees and nearly 700 jobs at our subcontractors and suppliers would pick up and leave CO. Due to the structure of our operations, this would be entirely possible, hopefully without significant disruption to production.
Magpul Formally Announces They Will Leave Colorado If Magazine Ban Becomes Law - Soldier Systems



I'm hoping that he's right that production won't be interrupted.
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Democrats in Colorado are pretty confident that this bill will pass.

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MAGPUL INDUSTRIES ANNOUNCES IT WILL LEAVE COLORADO IF GUN BILL PASSES

MOVE WOULD COST STATE 600 JOBS, $85 MILLION

Denver, Colorado – February 15th, 2013 – Magpul Industries, an Erie, Colorado, based manufacturer of firearms accessories, announced today that it will be forced to leave the state if House Bill 1224, which would ban standard capacity magazines, becomes law. The announcement was made to Governor Hickenlooper, state legislators, members of the media, and in a full-page advertisement to appear in the Denver Post on Sunday.

Richard Fitzpatrick, Founder, President, and CEO of Magpul Industries, said that regardless of any amendments that may be worked into the bill, he will no longer be able to continue to do business in Colorado if his core product is made illegal.

“Our company could not, in good conscience, continue to manufacture our products in a state where law-abiding citizens are prohibited from purchasing and owning them. ” Fitzpatrick said. “The passage of this bill will do nothing to enhance public safety, but will force us to immediately begin taking our business to another state.”

A proponent of the bill argued that with the amendment language, the choice to stay or leave was up to Magpul. Fitzpatrick responded, “Our relationship with our customers across the country would be severely damaged if this bill passes and we stay. We’ve already heard word of potential boycotts if that happens. They (legislators) really need to understand that our customer base is as passionate about freedoms as we are, and staying here if this bill passes would cripple the company. Make no doubt about it…we have no choice, and would be forced to leave in order to save the business.”

Magpul cited the example of the Eastern Sports and Outdoors Show, which was canceled earlier this year after the organizers announced that it would not permit a popular category of firearm, like the ones Magpul makes accessories for, in the show. Public outcry from the customer base forced exhibitors to withdraw from participation, causing the cancellation of the show, and an estimated loss of $70 million of show revenue for hotels, restaurants, merchants, and other businesses in Pennsylvania, where the show was to be held.

Magpul Industries directly employs 200 people, supports another 400 supply-chain jobs, and contributes over $85 million annually to Colorado’s economy. Doug Smith, Chief Operating Officer for Magpul, says that it is a difficult position to be in. “We could choose to stay in a state that wants our jobs and revenue, but not our products, and lose half the jobs we are fighting to save, or potentially the entire business, when our customers stop buying. Or, we can take the company and those 600 jobs out of Colorado to continue our growth and the growth of American manufacturing in a state that shares our values. This is not really a choice. It’s an unfortunate and inevitable result of the actions of the Legislature if this bill passes.”

Magpul was started over a decade ago by Fitzpatrick, a former U.S. Marine. It has become one of Colorado’s fastest growing businesses, successfully marketing its products to American and allied military forces, police departments, sporting goods stores, and thousands of responsible private citizens. Fitzpatrick says that the rich western culture and strong values of individual freedom and responsibility, traditionally found in Colorado, were one of the reasons the company chose to remain in the state.

“It is heartbreaking to me, my employees, and their families, to think that we will be forced to leave,” Fitzpatrick said. “But if HB13-1224 passes, we will simply have no choice.”
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Democrats in Colorado are pretty confident that this bill will pass.
They have a super majority in the senate, and just redistricted the state to remove re-election concerns....it's not good for CO
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My buddy just picked up an ar-15 for 1200 bucks that wold have cosr 800ish 3 months ago...so sad
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Yeah AR15 prices go from normal to ridiculous depending on the laws. Sold mine recently for $1800. Paid $650. Sweet effing deal. I'm a target handgun / shotgun girl so not missing it. Can buy new s**t for my car now tho!
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I'm hearing that Magpul has found a location in Montana.
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I'm hearing that Magpul has found a location in Montana.
Is it for sure that they are leaving, even if the bill doesnt pass in the state senate?
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Is it for sure that they are leaving, even if the bill doesnt pass in the state senate?
They will leave if it becomes law.

From what I've heard, they're prepping to make offers in Wyoming and Montana, since there's a 99% chance the bill will pass the senate.


We've started recall paperwork for the most vulnerable reps and senators, but it's probably too late at this point.


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Very nice gun. RIA has really improved their line-up since 2006. I actually want a 1911 that will just look pretty, but traditional. I don't want problems either though...
I have a slightly modded Parausa BigHawg 14+1 thats a 24oz alloy pistol for dirty business. (defense pistol). 1,000 rounds and has never failed me and is as accurate as my CZ-75 duotone and Beretta 92fs italy.
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