Anyone here into firearms?

m4a1mustang

I guess I understand this from a "working rifle, now" point of view. But in the end you spend more money doing it twice. And I don't think the high grade stuff is all that much more expensive. Not to mention you are getting 7075T6 vs. 6061 which is going to be a big deal if your rifle sees a lot of hard use.

Granted it's probably very difficult to find any of the top tier stuff in stock at the moment.

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edub370

yea, its kinda a "get what u can get" market right now, but i'm trying to be patient. i'll have to see whats available right now as far as buffers go.

anyone have any info on the .300 blackout vs the .223

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UNKNOWN_370

Oh E, just buy both barrels... Why not? You can swap between cal.

.300 blackout is not worth it if you don't spend cash on supersonic ammo, but WITH supersonic, It has AK range & with better accuracy. Downside is.. Supersonic .300blkt is veeery pricey, but i think worth it.

I'm trying to build two rifles, one dedicated 6.8 and a 5.56/.300blkt modular rifle.

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ImportConvert

What info would you like? I can get/have anything you could imagine on it for the most part. Just ask.

MacCool

We just recently had an indoor range open here in the area. On opening day I was able to pick up a Huldra Tac Elite, 1000 rounds of 9mm, 1000 rounds of XM193, several pmags and even a couple of impossible-to-find magazines for my Walther PPQ in the Pro Shop. I got the last Tactical Elite, but I noted that they had several Korstogs in the rack. That's a brand new Fleet Farm house brand that is essentially a "direct impingement" version of the Huldra (which is a gas piston design). So new, I don't think it's even for sale yet other than their Pro Shop. They also had a few Colts and a couple of BCM's.

Fleet Farm has gone to DD, Noveske, and BCM looking for distribution contracts but when those companies heard the numbers they needed for their 33 stores they just laughed....no way they could come up with those kinds of numbers.

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edub370

well, i'm not really sure yet. this being my first AR, i dont think i plan on doing tons of hunting with it, but if i ever did, i figured i would be better off going with the .300. Hell, maybe i should just buy 2 uppers.

side note: just bought a VLTOR stock and buffer tube for my lower. now i get to look into the fun stuff... UPPERS!

i'm going to purchase a complete upper. so i know i want a free float, and flat top. but not sure about what other characteristics i should be looking for in an upper assembly. can anyone shed some light on some do's and dont's when buying an upper?

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UNKNOWN_370

the high grade parts aren't available right now. I know cuzi been buying parts. The UTG i recommended cuz i seen people run them and they run well. PERIOD... And they ARE available. Thanks for your input though

UNKNOWN_370

Let me throw you some 300 blackout facts before you buy two uppers.

1. the 7.62 cal head on the 300 blkout is primed in a 5.56 shell.
2. Due to this 300 blkout fits in 5.56 mags with NO MODIFICATION
3. It runs on the same buffer tension,BCG and firing pin as the 5.56 without modification with subsoonic loads. Supersonic, may or may not? Need a stronger buffer spring? That you might want to research.
4. The only difference between a 5.56 and 300blkout rifle is the barrel.
5. AR platforms are highly modular so barrel changing is easy
6. Every accessory you buy for 5.56 Ar's works on 300 except the barrel

Save some money. You only need a second upper and different mags if you're going to make another AR in 6.5 or 6.8

.308 uses a seperate lower altogether

Hope this helps???

MacCool

I understand the availability problem, but I could NEVER bring myself to recommend offshore imported Leapers-UTG rifle parts to ANYONE, even the most casual plinker, even for a rifle that would be nothing more than a range toy.




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edub370

stuff is available.. just gotta do LOTS of searching. that VLTOR stock/buffer tube took me about 3 hours to find on the internet yesterday

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UNKNOWN_370

Your assessment coming from what experience?

MacCool

20+ years shooting the AR platform, 15 of them on a high round-count SWAT team training twice a month, two AR15 armorer's courses, and 15+ formal training courses wherein I have seen all manner of malfunctions and equipment failure on a wide variety of rifles.

I do confess I have a UTG rifle case for one AR around here somewhere which hasn't fallen apart in 5 years.

UNKNOWN_370

Kool beans. Much respect to the job and position.

BUT... Again, I have seen these buffer assemblies run well on DI guns at the range with a couple of friends that run them on AR builds. I dont know how much trust I'd have on this with the extra impact from piston rifles, but this will be fine on a DI gun.

While i'm sure you seen dozens of failures, if not hundreds? I also know that police and SWAT usually run, RRA, Bushmaster, Stag, BCM components. You wont find a malfunction on a police gun from a UTG buffer assembly. Thats the kind of product that gets tested in civilian ranges and sporting events brother.

that said, with a serious shortage of parts. Its just an option. Even though I seen these run flawless... I did say just to make your build operational.

decided to go on amazon to find a review. While one guy seemed to have an out of spec part. The rest seemed to be doing well.

Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: UTG Billet Mil Spec Buffer Tube Kit Heavy Duty!!

I'm sure I can find more credible reviews and discussions if necessary.

When it comes to AR's. One thing you should know with your extensive experience. There isn't a perfect AR out there off the shelf. You will always need to change something, even on the highest end of gun, Sights, trigger assemblies, sometimes even the whole lower due mag bevels are way too thin for anything more than basic plinking (depending on Builder) .
also different builds match different parts, and what works in one rifle may not work in another.

Govt contract AR's leave you limited to Only certain brands. I'm sure UTg isn't on the SWAT contract list.

ImportConvert

I agree with him and my assessment is based off of all the crap I have tried to trouble-shoot for people at the range, friends, etc. who bought crap and now have issues.