Anyone here into firearms?

m4a1mustang · 01-20-2013, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

This point to me is pointless and means nothing to me in terms of the fact that, the high cap mags may become illegal and NOT grandfathered. But our second amendment can't be changed so I'm not breaking the law. The law-makers are. That said. This comment means nothing imho. I can lock my mags away and keep doing what im doing currently to support my rights.

But if there's a SHTF scenario. i'm sure my neighbors will be glad i had 20 hi cap mags for each of my guns. Regardless of law.

That's not actually true. The Supreme Court has ruled that the 2nd Amendment CAN be restricted. A magazine capacity limit, if passed by Congress, would be 100% lawful, and you would be 100% breaking the law.

6MT · 01-20-2013, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

This point to me is pointless and means nothing to me in terms of the fact that, the high cap mags may become illegal and NOT grandfathered. But our second amendment can't be changed so I'm not breaking the law. The law-makers are. That said. This comment means nothing imho. I can lock my mags away and keep doing what im doing currently to support my rights.

But if there's a SHTF scenario. i'm sure my neighbors will be glad i had 20 hi cap mags for each of my guns. Regardless of law.

Here's hoping his mental state is not questionable...

tvfreakazoid · 01-21-2013, 03:42 AM

I know this has been talked about like a billions of times but here goes.

So we know there are piston and DI ar15 rifles. They both have a metal rod that pushes the bolt back right?

One of the differences is that most of the gases escapes at the front or the barrel area on a piston rifle and most of the gases goes in the lower rec area on a DI ar.

So why does these companies has to make a proprietary bolt? Couldn't they use the same bolt design? I don't know what that part is called that's on top of the bolt where the rod pushes the bolt back. Please school me on this.

BlackZeda · 01-21-2013, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

So we know there are piston and DI ar15 rifles. They both have a metal rod that pushes the bolt back right?

You are mistaken...The DI has a gas tube that couples with a gas key which directs the gas into the rest of the bolt carrier group. The gas piston system utilizes the push rod which will mechanically move the BCG back into the buffer. The BCGs necessarily have to be different.

Hope that helps!

MacCool · 01-21-2013, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

But if you use a CMT/Barrett lower on a LWRC parts kit, American Gold/Geisselle trigger, Troy Sights/ Adams arms foregrip and possibly an AApiston system, throw in Magpul miad grips, Magpul CTR/ACS stock FN/Green moutain or Wison combat barrel. Cerakote your parts and pay attention to detail.

If you do all of those things, you'll have a great firearm. If you build it that way and decide to sell it (in a normal marketplace), you would end up getting more money by parting it out.

Frankenguns just don't have the resale value no matter what parts go into them.

MacCool · 01-21-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

You are mistaken...The DI has a gas tube that couples with a gas key which directs the gas into the rest of the bolt carrier group. The gas piston system utilizes the push rod which will mechanically move the BCG back into the buffer. The BCGs necessarily have to be different.

Hope that helps!

A conventional Stoner-design AR is a true expanding gas piston gun too and not direct impingement. It's just that the piston is the bolt carrier group and there is no actuating rod. Direct impingement is something else.

m4a1mustang · 01-21-2013, 03:01 PM

Stopped by a local gun shop today... depressing sight to say the least.

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-21-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

If you do all of those things, you'll have a great firearm. If you build it that way and decide to sell it (in a normal marketplace), you would end up getting more money by parting it out.

Frankenguns just don't have the resale value no matter what parts go into them.

Yeah but again, my point was the QUALITY of firearm would be in that price range of guns $2200? Thats whatyou're not getting. I didn't make that statement in terms of actually selling the gun. I meant performance value.

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-21-2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT

Here's hoping his mental state is not questionable...

I was going to respond you but....

Wait a minute.... Aren't you Canadian????

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m4a1mustang · 01-21-2013, 05:32 PM

now now boys.

edub370 · 01-21-2013, 06:37 PM

Just built my first AR-15 lower last night. its about 75% done. (rguns lower, bushmaster guts) will probably upgrade to a geissele trigger later

Got the lower receiver and clip right before prices went thru the roof on em. now i just need a buffer tube/spring/ to complete the lower.

not sure about which upper to go with right now. free float something or other. torn between .223 and .300 blackout right now tho

6MT · 01-21-2013, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I was going to respond you but....

Wait a minute.... Aren't you Canadian????

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Bahahahahaha!

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-22-2013, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370

Just built my first AR-15 lower last night. its about 75% done. (rguns lower, bushmaster guts) will probably upgrade to a geissele trigger later

Got the lower receiver and clip right before prices went thru the roof on em. now i just need a buffer tube/spring/ to complete the lower.

not sure about which upper to go with right now. free float something or other. torn between .223 and .300 blackout right now tho

Amazon.com, you can find a leapers UTG buffer assembly. UTG buffers are pretty good quality and low priced. You can get that now to make your rifle functional. THen get something HQ later. For the price. You can't go wrong with the UTG buffer assembly.

tvfreakazoid · 01-22-2013, 05:53 AM

I realized i was mistaken about the DI ar.
Thanks.

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

You are mistaken...The DI has a gas tube that couples with a gas key which directs the gas into the rest of the bolt carrier group. The gas piston system utilizes the push rod which will mechanically move the BCG back into the buffer. The BCGs necessarily have to be different.

Hope that helps!

MacCool · 01-22-2013, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Yeah but again, my point was the QUALITY of firearm would be in that price range of guns $2200? Thats whatyou're not getting. I didn't make that statement in terms of actually selling the gun. I meant performance value.

Yeah, I don't disagree with that.

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tvfreakazoid A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kommie kali Posts: 1,238 Drives: 2015 Audi S5; 6spd. Rep Power: 10324	I know this has been talked about like a billions of times but here goes. So we know there are piston and DI ar15 rifles. They both have a metal rod that pushes the bolt back right? One of the differences is that most of the gases escapes at the front or the barrel area on a piston rifle and most of the gases goes in the lower rec area on a DI ar. So why does these companies has to make a proprietary bolt? Couldn't they use the same bolt design? I don't know what that part is called that's on top of the bolt where the rod pushes the bolt back. Please school me on this. __________________ Mudders milk Last edited by tvfreakazoid; 01-21-2013 at 06:48 AM.

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edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 20	Just built my first AR-15 lower last night. its about 75% done. (rguns lower, bushmaster guts) will probably upgrade to a geissele trigger later Got the lower receiver and clip right before prices went thru the roof on em. now i just need a buffer tube/spring/ to complete the lower. not sure about which upper to go with right now. free float something or other. torn between .223 and .300 blackout right now tho m4a1mustang likes this. __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq Last edited by edub370; 01-21-2013 at 06:50 PM.