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UNKNOWN_370 · 01-20-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

Doubtful. Acquiring mazagzines might make more sense, but only if greater-than-10-rounders are grandfathered, which is not the way Diane Feinstein is leaning. One could spend a lot of money in the current marketplace to acquire a lot of high-capacity magazines only to find that they are all illegal...which is what happened in New York last week.

This point to me is pointless and means nothing to me in terms of the fact that, the high cap mags may become illegal and NOT grandfathered. But our second amendment can't be changed so I'm not breaking the law. The law-makers are. That said. This comment means nothing imho. I can lock my mags away and keep doing what im doing currently to support my rights.

But if there's a SHTF scenario. i'm sure my neighbors will be glad i had 20 hi cap mags for each of my guns. Regardless of law.

m4a1mustang · 01-20-2013, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

This point to me is pointless and means nothing to me in terms of the fact that, the high cap mags may become illegal and NOT grandfathered. But our second amendment can't be changed so I'm not breaking the law. The law-makers are. That said. This comment means nothing imho. I can lock my mags away and keep doing what im doing currently to support my rights.

But if there's a SHTF scenario. i'm sure my neighbors will be glad i had 20 hi cap mags for each of my guns. Regardless of law.

That's not actually true. The Supreme Court has ruled that the 2nd Amendment CAN be restricted. A magazine capacity limit, if passed by Congress, would be 100% lawful, and you would be 100% breaking the law.

6MT · 01-20-2013, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

This point to me is pointless and means nothing to me in terms of the fact that, the high cap mags may become illegal and NOT grandfathered. But our second amendment can't be changed so I'm not breaking the law. The law-makers are. That said. This comment means nothing imho. I can lock my mags away and keep doing what im doing currently to support my rights.

But if there's a SHTF scenario. i'm sure my neighbors will be glad i had 20 hi cap mags for each of my guns. Regardless of law.

Here's hoping his mental state is not questionable...

tvfreakazoid · 01-21-2013, 02:42 AM

I know this has been talked about like a billions of times but here goes.

So we know there are piston and DI ar15 rifles. They both have a metal rod that pushes the bolt back right?

One of the differences is that most of the gases escapes at the front or the barrel area on a piston rifle and most of the gases goes in the lower rec area on a DI ar.

So why does these companies has to make a proprietary bolt? Couldn't they use the same bolt design? I don't know what that part is called that's on top of the bolt where the rod pushes the bolt back. Please school me on this.

BlackZeda · 01-21-2013, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

So we know there are piston and DI ar15 rifles. They both have a metal rod that pushes the bolt back right?

You are mistaken...The DI has a gas tube that couples with a gas key which directs the gas into the rest of the bolt carrier group. The gas piston system utilizes the push rod which will mechanically move the BCG back into the buffer. The BCGs necessarily have to be different.

Hope that helps!

MacCool · 01-21-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

You are mistaken...The DI has a gas tube that couples with a gas key which directs the gas into the rest of the bolt carrier group. The gas piston system utilizes the push rod which will mechanically move the BCG back into the buffer. The BCGs necessarily have to be different.

Hope that helps!

A conventional Stoner-design AR is a true expanding gas piston gun too and not direct impingement. It's just that the piston is the bolt carrier group and there is no actuating rod. Direct impingement is something else.

tvfreakazoid · 01-22-2013, 04:53 AM

I realized i was mistaken about the DI ar.
Thanks.

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

You are mistaken...The DI has a gas tube that couples with a gas key which directs the gas into the rest of the bolt carrier group. The gas piston system utilizes the push rod which will mechanically move the BCG back into the buffer. The BCGs necessarily have to be different.

Hope that helps!

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-21-2013, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT

Here's hoping his mental state is not questionable...

I was going to respond you but....

Wait a minute.... Aren't you Canadian????

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6MT · 01-21-2013, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I was going to respond you but....

Wait a minute.... Aren't you Canadian????

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Bahahahahaha!

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tvfreakazoid A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kommie kali Posts: 1,238 Drives: 2015 Audi S5; 6spd. Rep Power: 10325	I know this has been talked about like a billions of times but here goes. So we know there are piston and DI ar15 rifles. They both have a metal rod that pushes the bolt back right? One of the differences is that most of the gases escapes at the front or the barrel area on a piston rifle and most of the gases goes in the lower rec area on a DI ar. So why does these companies has to make a proprietary bolt? Couldn't they use the same bolt design? I don't know what that part is called that's on top of the bolt where the rod pushes the bolt back. Please school me on this. __________________ Mudders milk Last edited by tvfreakazoid; 01-21-2013 at 05:48 AM.