Anyone here into firearms?

MacCool · 10-03-2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I keep hearing about the PPQ. Do you have one? Have you handled it? How does it compare to the G19 for 4:30 IWB carry? The butt is what prints the worst/most likely on my old Gen 3 G19. How does the PPQ fare?

You have me interested in re-looking at the PPQ now. I just texted my FFL to order me one. Unfortunately, they are widely out of stock at virtually all of his distributers.

Here's an interesting thread over at M4C regarding Larry "Mr. Glock" Vickers and his impressions of the PPQ...

Walther PPQ - M4Carbine.net Forums

370zproject · 10-07-2012, 11:51 AM

i hope to go buy a tarus judge today

iv shot a buddies and it was to much fun

370zproject · 10-08-2012, 12:32 AM

well i bought my first gun a tarus judge will put up pics later when im not to lazy

m4a1mustang · 10-08-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject

well i bought my first gun a tarus judge will put up pics later when im not to lazy

Congrats

Mt Tam I am · 10-08-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject

well i bought my first gun a tarus judge will put up pics later when im not to lazy

One of the most sought after guns in California that is not legal here for importation.

Enjoy it for all of us living behind the mental iron curtain.

ImportConvert · 10-09-2012, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

The super grade 1911's that shoot 2" groups @50+ yards are not the WWII looser tolerance never jam type.

When I carried a 1911 daily I had a regular no frills version. I have numerous model 70 Gold cups, had two Les Baer's, a Wilson, and an Ed Brown. They are like your AR, Ferraris in a clean environment. Not so great in a dirty gritty environment like the M1A or M14.

I like Glock but get a bigger bullet. A .45 comes pre expanded. At least a 40 S&W. All you'd need is a drop in bbl and new mags.

With that said my friend used a Beretta 9mm and one shot one kill (head). So you will have a gun (9x19) in a gun fight .

I think this is similar to the HP debate.

The irony is that in 1968 the M16 was tested against the M14 and over-all across jungle, beach, etc. it proved more reliable, as a whole, and never much better/worse in each individual environment.

The M4 is plenty reliable. My 1911's? They crapped the bed IN a clean environment.

The M4 is tested to withstand 3600 rounds between stoppages. The target for the MEUsoc 1911? 300. That tells it.

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Originally Posted by MacCool

You have me interested in re-looking at the PPQ now. I just texted my FFL to order me one. Unfortunately, they are widely out of stock at virtually all of his distributers.

Here's an interesting thread over at M4C regarding Larry "Mr. Glock" Vickers and his impressions of the PPQ...

Walther PPQ - M4Carbine.net Forums

Anyway, I bring more than bickering, I ordered one of these today (yesterday, now, technically), so make fun of me or be jealous of me, whatever, it will be here in 2 days:

OMGiGOTaZ · 10-10-2012, 07:29 PM

New M&P 15T on Order

BlackZeda · 10-10-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

...My 1911's? They crapped the bed IN a clean environment.

The M4 is tested to withstand 3600 rounds between stoppages. The target for the MEUsoc 1911? 300. That tells it.
...

I know someone is going to take exception to this, but oh well; I like my S&W 1911 plenty but the design is archaic. It seems like it is something they came up with 100 years ago

Someone else has said this, but the H&K USP .45ACP IS a modernized 1911 taking advantage of new materials and technology while adding new features such as a decocker, double-action trigger and a safety that can be engaged at any time.

Ironically I am selling my H&K USP .45 since I am picking up a H&K HK45C tomorrow. My Glock 19 is being sold as well because I have decided that even though there are many advantages to a striker-fired pistol, I just feel comfortable with DA when there is a round in the chamber while I am carrying it. Also being sold is my H&K P30L 9mm since even though I have a lot of range time with it, it is still the pistol I am the most inaccurate with. It is a fine weapon but the "spiderman" grips somehow screws with my trigger control. My H&K P2000SK gives me tighter groups where I want them even though it is a much smaller handgun. I think I might pick up an H&K P2000 to replace it since it has the nice flat grip which seems to suit me.

I will post pics

ImportConvert · 10-11-2012, 03:00 AM

I used to carry a G19, but 1/10 casings seemed to come back very near my face, and it limited my clothing at times. I had to dress to the gun on occasion and it stayed home more than it should have. I carried IWB in a Comp-Tac MTAC. This, I will carry in a CTAC. Here are my impressions so far.

M&P 9 Shield Impressions so far:

Quality is superb. This does not feel like a $450 small pistol. It feels like an H&K, or a SIG (one of the German one's). Solid, sleek (okay, a newer H&K), and durable.

The sights are not available with tritium inserts, but are highly visible even in poor lighting. If you can see your target, you can see your sights.

I wear a size 7 surgical glove and can BARELY get my pinkie situated on the grip with the 7-round magazines. The 8-round magazines defeat the purpose of this pistol and I recommend a larger firearm if you feel inclined to use them.

The trigger is...okay. I prefer the trigger on my last Glock 19 to this, and my father, who loves high-end 1911's because he is a nostalgic kind of guy who nonetheless prefers an M4 at the side of his bed, had the trigger as his only complaint "Needs a trigger job" was his synopsis. Me? I don't know if I agree. I think it is a bit heavier than I like--feels like 6-7#--and it is not crisp or smooth, but it feels like the kind of grit that a few thousand rounds will clean up. I would NOT! let this stop me from buying the pistol.

The Safety...yeah, it has one. However, there is no way it will accidentally be activated, and it comes off VERY readily with a thumb-sweep on the draw.

Accuracy...I produced a group about the size of my spread hand my second magazine through it at 7 yards in failing dusk lighting using 124gr NATO winchester ammunition. I am not on my A-game right now, and the pistol has plenty more in it. It shoots where I point, I just need to get used to pointing a sub-compact.

Recoil...very manageable. It felt easily as controlled as I remember my G19. I am very impressed! It uses an all metal dual recoil assembly with the mainspring being of flatwire design, and the inner spring normal round-coil.

Boost_lee · 10-11-2012, 03:07 AM

Thanks for the review, I've considered the m&p 9

OMGiGOTaZ · 10-11-2012, 08:05 AM

I am a a Huge M&P fan, but I prefer the double stack magazines so I carry the 40c

ImportConvert · 10-11-2012, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by OMGiGOTaZ

I am a a Huge M&P fan, but I prefer the double stack magazines so I carry the 40c

I think the M&P 9C is a great gun, as I am sure the .40 is, as well. However, I found myself leaving my G19 at home far too often. I think this Shield will remedy that.

OMGiGOTaZ · 10-11-2012, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I think the M&P 9C is a great gun, as I am sure the .40 is, as well. However, I found myself leaving my G19 at home far too often. I think this Shield will remedy that.

If you don't mind me asking, what holster?

I have an LCP and J frame for occasions the 40 is to much to , I'm an instructor, have taught many hours, days, months, talking about holsters, carry methods, etc...

ImportConvert · 10-11-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OMGiGOTaZ

If you don't mind me asking, what holster?

I have an LCP and J frame for occasions the 40 is to much to , I'm an instructor, have taught many hours, days, months, talking about holsters, carry methods, etc...

MTAC for the Glock, CTAC for the shield.

tranceformer · 10-11-2012, 07:32 PM

I have the M&P9c and the Shield 9mm. Love em both.

Importconvert - do you carry an extra mag with the shield?

10-07-2012, 11:51 AM	#2492 (permalink)
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370zproject A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Memphis Age: 35 Posts: 16,104 Drives: 09 A/T 370z blue Rep Power: 53	well i bought my first gun a tarus judge will put up pics later when im not to lazy __________________ Brake Upgrade Package ate blue, hawk hp ceramic pads, and slotted rotors

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ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7627	I used to carry a G19, but 1/10 casings seemed to come back very near my face, and it limited my clothing at times. I had to dress to the gun on occasion and it stayed home more than it should have. I carried IWB in a Comp-Tac MTAC. This, I will carry in a CTAC. Here are my impressions so far. M&P 9 Shield Impressions so far: Quality is superb. This does not feel like a $450 small pistol. It feels like an H&K, or a SIG (one of the German one's). Solid, sleek (okay, a newer H&K), and durable. The sights are not available with tritium inserts, but are highly visible even in poor lighting. If you can see your target, you can see your sights. I wear a size 7 surgical glove and can BARELY get my pinkie situated on the grip with the 7-round magazines. The 8-round magazines defeat the purpose of this pistol and I recommend a larger firearm if you feel inclined to use them. The trigger is...okay. I prefer the trigger on my last Glock 19 to this, and my father, who loves high-end 1911's because he is a nostalgic kind of guy who nonetheless prefers an M4 at the side of his bed, had the trigger as his only complaint "Needs a trigger job" was his synopsis. Me? I don't know if I agree. I think it is a bit heavier than I like--feels like 6-7#--and it is not crisp or smooth, but it feels like the kind of grit that a few thousand rounds will clean up. I would NOT! let this stop me from buying the pistol. The Safety...yeah, it has one. However, there is no way it will accidentally be activated, and it comes off VERY readily with a thumb-sweep on the draw. Accuracy...I produced a group about the size of my spread hand my second magazine through it at 7 yards in failing dusk lighting using 124gr NATO winchester ammunition. I am not on my A-game right now, and the pistol has plenty more in it. It shoots where I point, I just need to get used to pointing a sub-compact. Recoil...very manageable. It felt easily as controlled as I remember my G19. I am very impressed! It uses an all metal dual recoil assembly with the mainspring being of flatwire design, and the inner spring normal round-coil. BlackZeda likes this.

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tranceformer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Palm Beach, FL Posts: 1,213 Drives: 2009 370Z PW 6MT Rep Power: 268	I have the M&P9c and the Shield 9mm. Love em both. Importconvert - do you carry an extra mag with the shield? __________________ Ray 2009 370Z Base Sport 6MT / 12.860 @ 109.09mph / 1.921 60ft / street tires official 1/4 mile track times