Anyone here into firearms?

Isamu · 05-31-2011, 12:24 AM

sig?

m4a1mustang · 05-31-2011, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

The Kahr has well-known feeding problems and tends to be quite finicky about ammo. My buddy is a police firearms trainer and got the Kahr PM9 to carry as a a BUG. So far, it's been back to Kahr twice and he still hasn't been able to get it to run reliably enough to carry on duty. Get the Walther. I have two of them (one is wife's) and they're excellent.

I do like the Walther but I'm not quite sure if it'd fit in a front pocket?

I know the Kahr CM/PM series will fit right in your pocket, and yes, I've heard of the feeding issues but in my research it seems like they all get resolved with a 200+ round break-in or being returned to Kahr for service. I did a lot of research with these because I was going to buy a CW9 before I ultimately chose the G26.

Of course the LCP would fit no problem. Or even a Sig P238 if I wanted to get all fancy.

NismoZ370 · 05-31-2011, 08:26 AM

Any of you guys shoot Saiga AK-12s?

m4a1mustang · 05-31-2011, 08:27 AM

No, but I would like to!

MacCool · 06-01-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I do like the Walther but I'm not quite sure if it'd fit in a front pocket?

I know the Kahr CM/PM series will fit right in your pocket, and yes, I've heard of the feeding issues but in my research it seems like they all get resolved with a 200+ round break-in or being returned to Kahr for service. I did a lot of research with these because I was going to buy a CW9 before I ultimately chose the G26.

Of course the LCP would fit no problem. Or even a Sig P238 if I wanted to get all fancy.

Nah, I wouldn't call the PPS a pocket gun, but the LC9 and PM9 are only a little better in that regard. If I wanted a pocket gun, pretty much stuck with a .380. I have a couple that work well in that regard but I've gone pretty much 9mm only.

In the 9mm category, I ruled out the PM9 and the LC9 for reliability reasons. I gave a little bit up in size for the PPS, but no regrets.

PPS vs LC9

PPS, LC9, PM9

m4a1mustang · 06-01-2011, 12:04 PM

Very cool. Thanks for the info. My boss is actually looking for a carry gun right now and I told him to look at the PPS in addition to the standard Glock, XD, and M&Ps. It looks like a nice gun.

In other news, I've found that I am indeed allowed to keep a weapon in my car in the parking lot at work, so I need to work a bit on keeping it as secure as possible. I'll keep it easily accessable while driving and stowe it away securely when I make it to the office.

MacCool · 06-01-2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Very cool. Thanks for the info. My boss is actually looking for a carry gun right now and I told him to look at the PPS in addition to the standard Glock, XD, and M&Ps. It looks like a nice gun.

In other news, I've found that I am indeed allowed to keep a weapon in my car in the parking lot at work, so I need to work a bit on keeping it as secure as possible. I'll keep it easily accessable while driving and stowe it away securely when I make it to the office.

I had a Glock 26, and looked hard at the M&P9c (I have an M&P9L already). The attractive thing to me about the PPS is the single-stack magazine. That nice slim grip makes a HUGE difference in providing a low-profile carry compared to the double-stack G26 and M&P9 compact.

m4a1mustang · 06-01-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

I had a Glock 26, and looked hard at the M&P9c (I have an M&P9L already). The attractive thing to me about the PPS is the single-stack magazine. That nice slim grip makes a HUGE difference in providing a low-profile carry compared to the double-stack G26 and M&P9 compact.

The Glock is very compact length and height wise but it's double-stack design still makes it pretty bulky, which can be annoying in the summer.

Right now I am looking for something that I can keep in a pocket holster for summer, and use the Glock mostly in the spring/fall/winter. I'm looking hard at the Kahr CM9 because I really would like to stay with the 9mm round and that one seems like it would fit the bill -- but I know it'd require at least 200 flawless rounds to ensure it's reliability.

MB370Z · 06-01-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The Glock is very compact length and height wise but it's double-stack design still makes it pretty bulky, which can be annoying in the summer.

Right now I am looking for something that I can keep in a pocket holster for summer, and use the Glock mostly in the spring/fall/winter. I'm looking hard at the Kahr CM9 because I really would like to stay with the 9mm round and that one seems like it would fit the bill -- but I know it'd require at least 200 flawless rounds to ensure it's reliability.

What about a Smith & Wesson J frame? Very light weight and knockdown power of a 357 magnum. Sometimes I forget I have it in my pocket.

Smith & Wesson M&P340 with Galco IWB

m4a1mustang · 06-01-2011, 03:04 PM

I'm not really a bit revolver fan.

MB370Z · 06-01-2011, 04:02 PM

Has anyone seen this yet?

Get it while you can before the commies ban this

wstar · 06-01-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MB370Z

Has anyone seen this yet?

Get it while you can before the commies ban this

Bump-firing can be done on any AR-15 (really, on any semi-auto rifle period, although it's easier on some than others). Once you get the technique down you can pick up anyone's AR-15 and bump-fire at will. What they're selling is a modified stock/grip assembly that's supposed to make it a little easier and more reliable (and probably not beat up your shoulder quite as much).

The general idea with bump-firing a regular AR-15 is you want to leave a small gap between the stock and your shoulder, mostly support the weight with your left hand on the handguard (or forward vertical grip), keep your trigger finger at fixed location in space, and let the recoil of each shot bounce the rifle off of your shoulder and back into your trigger finger.

Some people find it easier to start out this way: Start with the butt against your shoulder and your finger on or just in front of the trigger, and then use your left hand (on the handguard / front grip) to pull the rifle forward into the trigger and away from your shoulder to fire the first round (at which point the same cycle happens as above).

MB370Z · 06-01-2011, 04:30 PM

Yeah but with this stock it makes bump firing so much more easier especially with a 100 round drum

MacCool · 06-01-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MB370Z

Yeah but with this stock it makes bump firing so much more easier especially with a 100 round drum

100-round mag dumps. Looks like a great way to ruin a good barrel much faster. Each to their own....I think I'll stick with semi auto.

wstar · 06-01-2011, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

100-round mag dumps. Looks like a great way to ruin a good barrel much faster. Each to their own....I think I'll stick with semi auto.

Ditto. I've played with bump-firing my AR-15 before, and had the opportunity to shoot various full autos for fun. My favorite was a 9mm MP5 that a DEA guy brought out to a shoot in north texas a few years back. In recoil terms it felt like a full auto BB-gun, and it was just a blast to play with.

But when it comes down to it, full auto isn't all that useful in any scenario I'm ever likely to encounter. Generally it's only tactically practical for laying down suppressive fire, and I just don't see myself ever needing to cover someone with suppressive full auto fire in any defensive situation I'm likely to run into, even if the zombies do come.

If they were cheap, I'd buy full autos for range toys (and still not use them for defensive rifles). But at post-1986 prices, forget it, I'll stick with semis at the range too.

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Very cool. Thanks for the info. My boss is actually looking for a carry gun right now and I told him to look at the PPS in addition to the standard Glock, XD, and M&Ps. It looks like a nice gun. In other news, I've found that I am indeed allowed to keep a weapon in my car in the parking lot at work, so I need to work a bit on keeping it as secure as possible. I'll keep it easily accessable while driving and stowe it away securely when I make it to the office. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I'm not really a bit revolver fan. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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MB370Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Marrero, LA Posts: 329 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 358	Has anyone seen this yet? Get it while you can before the commies ban this

06-01-2011, 04:30 PM	#1123 (permalink)
MB370Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Marrero, LA Posts: 329 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 358	Yeah but with this stock it makes bump firing so much more easier especially with a 100 round drum