Anyone here into firearms?

ZeeingAround · 03-02-2018, 10:19 PM

Please share.

ZeeingAround · 03-02-2018, 10:20 PM

Just picked up a Calico M-100 at an auction. Needs a little trigger or firing pin work.
Me and my son are having fun working on these types of projects.

synolimit · 03-03-2018, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ClemsonVQdude

I know that’s an ak in the picture. I was referring to another reply. Sure you might need a handgun some day, having rifles is just pointless.

Being a former cop you dont bring a knife to a gun fight. That also applies in the sense you dont bring an equal level of fire power. Bad guy as a knife, you bring a gun. Bad guy has a hand gun, you bring a rifle. Bad guy has a rifle, you better be a better shot or have more ammo/bigger mag.

MB370Z · 03-03-2018, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Being a former cop you dont bring a knife to a gun fight. That also applies in the sense you dont bring an equal level of fire power. Bad guy as a knife, you bring a gun. Bad guy has a hand gun, you bring a rifle. Bad guy has a rifle, you better be a better shot or have more ammo/bigger mag.

VABAM · 03-03-2018, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliriousClam

I started shooting less than a year ago and can already hit targets consistently from 25 yards with a handgun

Like what Hotrodz said when stress and adrenaline kick in during a fight or flight moment you can easily go from hitting a target at 25 yards to missing at 2.

Run n gun'n is a real eye opener. Especially when you get your heart rate up and your fine motor skills go out the window.

VABAM · 03-03-2018, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MB370Z

That never gets old.

VABAM · 03-03-2018, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeeingAround

Just picked up a Calico M-100 at an auction. Needs a little trigger or firing pin work.
Me and my son are having fun working on these types of projects.

synolimit · 03-03-2018, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MB370Z

Haha perfect.

urdeliveryguy · 03-03-2018, 09:01 PM

Been looking at optics for awhile now.. torn between a primary arms or the vortex strike eagle 1-6x. Ar reticles. Any opinions?

urdeliveryguy · 03-03-2018, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Baronsmokes

Multiple rifles,shotguns and hand guns.Conceal and carry.A lot of fund raisers for kids sports raffle firearms.AR 15 is one of the most popular in raffles.

High schools have clay target leagues

I live in a state that everyone has firearms.Numerous public outdoor ranges.Winter time here.I have 40 cal and girlfriend has 9mm Glock..I get a lot of sh#t about plastic gun.Friday nights at indoor range are date night you get half off.

Half off?.... ammo?! Wheres this magical place at?

VABAM · 03-04-2018, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by urdeliveryguy

Been looking at optics for awhile now.. torn between a primary arms or the vortex strike eagle 1-6x. Ar reticles. Any opinions?

No experience with either but from casual observation both seam like good companies. However I have heard more about Vortex than Primary Arms.

The only real opinion I have is about the reticle. I tend to stay away from BDC (Bullet Drop Compensated) reticles. Most of the time, when you read the fine print on BDC reticles they only work with a specific weight bullet going a specific velocity. I'm guessing since your looking at getting an AR/5.56 reticle this optic is meant for an AR-15 style rifle or something similar. TBH IMO you don't need a BDC for AR-15s, especially if you are shooting less than 300 yards. A good 50 yard zero and you should be able to hit anything within +/- 3 inches out to about 285 yards IIRC, 250 realistically. At 300 yards its about - 4-5 inches depending on the load out of 16" barrel. Check out this web site for visual aids: Arma Dynamics Zero Considerations

The other reason I tend to stay away from BCDs is more practical. A BCD really locks down a purpose/round for a particular optic. I rather have a good MOA or MILRAD reticle and have an optic I can use on any rifle/round I choose.

Just my

Rusty · 03-04-2018, 08:41 PM

I got a couple of scopes with different reticles. Fine hair, heavy duplex, BDC, mil-dot, etc. Like what was said about the BDC reticles by VABAM. They are matched to a bullet style, weight, and velocity. Change one of the parameters, and then it's no longer useful. Your bullet drops WILL be different. Lately, I've flavoring the mil-dots with a FFP scope.

Vortex makes a good scope. Primary Arms looks to be a rebranded chinese scopes.

Ghostvette · 03-05-2018, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ClemsonVQdude

I know that’s an ak in the picture. I was referring to another reply. Sure you might need a handgun some day, having rifles is just pointless.

The purpose of a handgun is to get back to your rifle....which you shouldn't have set down.

I keep a rifle in my car, in addition to the hand gun I carry.

Ghostvette · 03-05-2018, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by urdeliveryguy

Been looking at optics for awhile now.. torn between a primary arms or the vortex strike eagle 1-6x. Ar reticles. Any opinions?

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Originally Posted by VABAM

No experience with either but from casual observation both seam like good companies. However I have heard more about Vortex than Primary Arms.

The only real opinion I have is about the reticle. I tend to stay away from BDC (Bullet Drop Compensated) reticles. Most of the time, when you read the fine print on BDC reticles they only work with a specific weight bullet going a specific velocity. I'm guessing since your looking at getting an AR/5.56 reticle this optic is meant for an AR-15 style rifle or something similar. TBH IMO you don't need a BDC for AR-15s, especially if you are shooting less than 300 yards. A good 50 yard zero and you should be able to hit anything within +/- 3 inches out to about 285 yards IIRC, 250 realistically. At 300 yards its about - 4-5 inches depending on the load out of 16" barrel. Check out this webs site for visual aids: Arma Dynamics Zero Considerations

The other reason I tend to stay away from BCDs is more practical. A BCD really locks down a purpose/round for a particular optic. I rather have a good MOA or MILRAD reticle and have an optic I can use on any rifle/round I choose.

Just my

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Originally Posted by Rusty

I got a couple of scopes with different reticles. Fine hair, heavy duplex, BDC, mil-dot, etc. Like what was said about the BDC reticles by VABAM. They are matched to a bullet style, weight, and velocity. Change one of the parameters, and then it's no longer useful. Your bullet drops WILL be different. Lately, I've flavoring the mil-dots with a FFP scope.

Vortex makes a good scope. Primary Arms looks to be a rebranded chinese scopes.

While most folks won't shoot much past 200-300 yards, I've shot an AR platform gun out to 500 yards while on active duty. What I've heard is that one should plan to spend a $$ amount equal to what you spent on the rifle. Low end build, low end scope; high end build, high end scope. There are several good scopes out there, what you get will depend on budget and the range you intend to use your rifle. For example: my 500 yard rifle has a real old Bushnell 3x9 scope (I really need to update it

) but I can consistently put .308 rounds in a 4" group at 500 yards. Could the group be tighter? Sure, but if I'm hitting center mass on a torso, how accurate do I really need to be? 165 gr hollow point will pretty well ruin someone's day.

My Mini 14 uses iron sights and I dialed it in for a 150 yd zero, 300 blackout has a scope set for 100 yds and the 6.8 is my 200-300 yd weapon. Oh and the .30-06 is my reach out and touch someone at 1000 yds...

Point is, what range to you expect to use the rifle and how often. TBH, there is no sense in buying a really high end scope to shoot once in a blue moon. IMHO, learn to shoot over iron sights before putting a scope on.... if you can't shoot over iron sights, you won't be able to shoot with a scope...

SouthArk370Z · 03-05-2018, 09:35 AM

To rephrase what Ghostvette said: you want the right tool for the job. Scopes are not one-size-fits-all tools. A scope that may be perfect for one setup may be useless in another (similar to Summer tires in the Winter).

If you're going to be using the same scope for various distances, an AO comes in handy.

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ZeeingAround A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 6,365 Drives: 3500 NVP 370Z-sold! Rep Power: 86623	Just picked up a Calico M-100 at an auction. Needs a little trigger or firing pin work. Me and my son are having fun working on these types of projects. VABAM and Rusty like this. __________________ Get some roosters for eggs and Bulls for milk . Then you will see that gender matters. Especially at milking time.

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urdeliveryguy Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: philadelphia / delco Posts: 278 Drives: 09' touring 6sp Rep Power: 14	Been looking at optics for awhile now.. torn between a primary arms or the vortex strike eagle 1-6x. Ar reticles. Any opinions? __________________ 09 370z #teammontereyblue / 12 fx35 / 08 g35x

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Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,173 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	I got a couple of scopes with different reticles. Fine hair, heavy duplex, BDC, mil-dot, etc. Like what was said about the BDC reticles by VABAM. They are matched to a bullet style, weight, and velocity. Change one of the parameters, and then it's no longer useful. Your bullet drops WILL be different. Lately, I've flavoring the mil-dots with a FFP scope. Vortex makes a good scope. Primary Arms looks to be a rebranded chinese scopes. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

03-05-2018, 09:35 AM	#5085 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324198	To rephrase what Ghostvette said: you want the right tool for the job. Scopes are not one-size-fits-all tools. A scope that may be perfect for one setup may be useless in another (similar to Summer tires in the Winter). If you're going to be using the same scope for various distances, an AO comes in handy. VABAM, Rusty and Ghostvette like this. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma