Anyone here into firearms?

tvfreakazoid · 10-02-2015, 05:32 PM

And she's a lefty

2 by 2...hands of blue

Tigger · 10-02-2015, 06:04 PM

got these suckers in today. gonna get some ballistic gel and have a little fun!

tvfreakazoid · 10-02-2015, 07:25 PM

Money to burn I c. Pics when u get done with the gel. Or hell a video while u shooting the gel is better

2 by 2...hands of blue

Nismo89 · 10-02-2015, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

And she's a lefty

2 by 2...hands of blue

yup shes a lefty, just as I am

MacCool · 10-09-2015, 06:38 PM

9mm wins

M4C Newsletter & Larry Vickers: .45 vs 9mm; The debate is over

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Vickers"

An exception to that in my opinion would be if you are stuck for whatever reason to carrying ball Ammo only. At that point all the calibers are just gonna poke a hole in the bad guy and a bigger hole is better than a smaller one so .45 ACP rules. That leaves .40 S&W out in the cold in my opinion and that trend is seen everywhere now as the .40 has quickly become the black sheep of the whole Ammo debate. The guns are harder to shoot, hold less bullets and are no more effective on the street than 9mm. In fact some have proven to be problematic for many years (Glock 22) when there 9mm counterparts are gold standards for dependability and reliability (Glock 17).

So that's the way I see it; 9mm is in, .40 is out, and .45 if needed. Be safe, keep shooting, LAV out.

Larry Vickers
Master Sergeant ( Retired )
US Army SOF Combat Veteran

Spstone · 10-09-2015, 07:42 PM

Honestly with all the advancements in ammunition it comes down to what you are comfortable with shooting and find a frame that fits your hands, and body if carrying. If you look at the gels of rounds from .380 to .45 that are designed for extreme trauma they all have the power to stop the bad guy. But if you choose to run around with a .45 because some one told you it's the best, but only have the strength to shoot a .380 you aren't going to hit the bad guy and that big round is useless. Just my 2 pennies.

BoneZ · 10-09-2015, 07:43 PM

Hey gun packin' friends. What is your daily carry ammo of choice?

I generally use Hornady Critical Duty +p 135 gr.

BoneZ · 10-09-2015, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spstone

Honestly with all the advancements in ammunition it comes down to what you are comfortable with shooting and find a frame that fits your hands, and body if carrying. If you look at the gels of rounds from .380 to .45 that are designed for extreme trauma they all have the power to stop the bad guy. But if you choose to run around with a .45 because some one told you it's the best, but only have the strength to shoot a .380 you aren't going to hit the bad guy and that big round is useless. Just my 2 pennies.

firulice · 10-09-2015, 10:49 PM

Same for me that's a good round. I either carry those or my own hornady reloads

DEpointfive0 · 10-09-2015, 10:50 PM

Any hollow point. I usually shoot them into a pool to see how they fragment (I'm dead serious)

SouthArk370Z · 10-09-2015, 11:12 PM

For home defense, I use hollow points. If I were going to carry in public, I'd probably go with something frangible.

Rusty · 10-10-2015, 12:06 AM

The first 3 rounds, Glaser Safety Slugs. The rest of the mag is Critical Defense.

Glaser Blue Safety Slug Ammo 40 S&W 115 Grain Safety Slug Package of

Hornady Critical Defense Ammo 40 S&W 165 Grain Flex Tip eXpanding Box

synolimit · 10-11-2015, 07:55 PM

i finally got out to shoot the new powder for my Hornady 75gr's. If you remember I was using a powder not recommended but Accurate or Hornady but one that others had tried with 69gr's and i was only getting around 2460ftps with a very compressed load deforming my tips.

I found out RL 15 would work ok. So I loaded up low, medium and high charges per Hornadys 5.56 manual. But my speeds are way way under what they say. The max at 24.9gr should be 2850ftps. I'm only getting 2642ftps. I take it they don't use a 16" barrel then for the manuals and use a 20". I tested my 16" vs 10" and averaged 310ftps slower or 51ftps per inch. So 2642+204=2846 or almost dead on for 24.9gr per Hornady, way to go manual!

Anyways I started loading more powder to see if I could get more speed and watch for signs of over pressure. Was that bad? I got up to 25.5gr and again started to compress the load and deforme the tip a little Speeds got up to 2710 and the cases looked good after being shot but pretty flat primers though but no damage or hurt cases. I ran out of brass but shot 4 rounds at 25.5gr. First cold barrel shot was 3-4" left from shots 2 and 3 which were sub MOA on top of each other. Shot 4 was again 3" away but right of 2 and 3. After writing all this I'm answering my own question probably by saying the charges were to hot and probably wild and the deformed tip probably wasn't helping. Shots 2 and 3 might of just had more room in the case or less deforming making them good at 25.5gr and 2700ftps. So maybe I'll just stick with 24.9gr at 2642ftps with the 75gr bullet and redo the accuracy testing.

FYI every 0.4-0.5gr averaged about 60ftps for all the loads I tried out.

VABAM · 10-11-2015, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneZ

Hey gun packin' friends. What is your daily carry ammo of choice?

I generally use Hornady Critical Duty +p 135 gr.

Hornady Critical Duty 45 ACP 220gr +P for me.

Rusty · 10-11-2015, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synolimit

i finally got out to shoot the new powder for my Hornady 75gr's. If you remember I was using a powder not recommended but Accurate or Hornady but one that others had tried with 69gr's and i was only getting around 2460ftps with a very compressed load deforming my tips.

I found out RL 15 would work ok. So I loaded up low, medium and high charges per Hornadys 5.56 manual. But my speeds are way way under what they say. The max at 24.9gr should be 2850ftps. I'm only getting 2642ftps. I take it they don't use a 16" barrel then for the manuals and use a 20". I tested my 16" vs 10" and averaged 310ftps slower or 51ftps per inch. So 2642+204=2846 or almost dead on for 24.9gr per Hornady, way to go manual!

Anyways I started loading more powder to see if I could get more speed and watch for signs of over pressure. Was that bad? I got up to 25.5gr and again started to compress the load and deforme the tip a little Speeds got up to 2710 and the cases looked good after being shot but pretty flat primers though but no damage or hurt cases. I ran out of brass but shot 4 rounds at 25.5gr. First cold barrel shot was 3-4" left from shots 2 and 3 which were sub MOA on top of each other. Shot 4 was again 3" away but right of 2 and 3. After writing all this I'm answering my own question probably by saying the charges were to hot and probably wild and the deformed tip probably wasn't helping. Shots 2 and 3 might of just had more room in the case or less deforming making them good at 25.5gr and 2700ftps. So maybe I'll just stick with 24.9gr at 2642ftps with the 75gr bullet and redo the accuracy testing.

FYI every 0.4-0.5gr averaged about 60ftps for all the loads I tried out.

3 powders you can try also. IMR4198, ARCOMP, and Ram Tac if you can find it. Alot of people like the Ram Tac, then the ARCOMP. IMR 4198 use to be the powder for .222, .223, and like size cases.

Are you using a chronograph? If so, which one? I never get what the manual says for velocity.

When you deform the tip of the bullet. Kiss your accuracy good by.

When you try for more velocity. And are starting to see over pressure signs. You will see the flatten primers. But what you don't see is inside the case. Look for a bright ring around the outside of the case, just above the case groove. If you see that. Your case is about to separate there. Also your case will grow in length. So keep an eye on case length. Watch for splits in the necks too. Because as the case grows in length. The neck will get thick, and work hardened.

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tvfreakazoid A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kommie kali Posts: 1,238 Drives: 2015 Audi S5; 6spd. Rep Power: 10324	Money to burn I c. Pics when u get done with the gel. Or hell a video while u shooting the gel is better 2 by 2...hands of blue Tigger likes this. __________________ Mudders milk

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Spstone Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Wilmington, nc Posts: 354 Drives: 14 370Z Nismo 6MT PW Rep Power: 10	Honestly with all the advancements in ammunition it comes down to what you are comfortable with shooting and find a frame that fits your hands, and body if carrying. If you look at the gels of rounds from .380 to .45 that are designed for extreme trauma they all have the power to stop the bad guy. But if you choose to run around with a .45 because some one told you it's the best, but only have the strength to shoot a .380 you aren't going to hit the bad guy and that big round is useless. Just my 2 pennies. SouthArk370Z, Ghostvette and BoneZ like this.

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BoneZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2015 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 52 Posts: 9,299 Drives: 2012 Blue BallZ Rep Power: 2684382	Self Defense Ammo Hey gun packin' friends. What is your daily carry ammo of choice? I generally use Hornady Critical Duty +p 135 gr. __________________ *“Happiness is having a large, loving, caring, close-knit family in another city.”*-George Burns

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synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3389	i finally got out to shoot the new powder for my Hornady 75gr's. If you remember I was using a powder not recommended but Accurate or Hornady but one that others had tried with 69gr's and i was only getting around 2460ftps with a very compressed load deforming my tips. I found out RL 15 would work ok. So I loaded up low, medium and high charges per Hornadys 5.56 manual. But my speeds are way way under what they say. The max at 24.9gr should be 2850ftps. I'm only getting 2642ftps. I take it they don't use a 16" barrel then for the manuals and use a 20". I tested my 16" vs 10" and averaged 310ftps slower or 51ftps per inch. So 2642+204=2846 or almost dead on for 24.9gr per Hornady, way to go manual! Anyways I started loading more powder to see if I could get more speed and watch for signs of over pressure. Was that bad? I got up to 25.5gr and again started to compress the load and deforme the tip a little Speeds got up to 2710 and the cases looked good after being shot but pretty flat primers though but no damage or hurt cases. I ran out of brass but shot 4 rounds at 25.5gr. First cold barrel shot was 3-4" left from shots 2 and 3 which were sub MOA on top of each other. Shot 4 was again 3" away but right of 2 and 3. After writing all this I'm answering my own question probably by saying the charges were to hot and probably wild and the deformed tip probably wasn't helping. Shots 2 and 3 might of just had more room in the case or less deforming making them good at 25.5gr and 2700ftps. So maybe I'll just stick with 24.9gr at 2642ftps with the 75gr bullet and redo the accuracy testing. FYI every 0.4-0.5gr averaged about 60ftps for all the loads I tried out. __________________ 13 370z-