Anyone here into firearms?

SmoothZ · 05-05-2014, 08:18 AM

Hey, Mac. I appreciate your input but you don't have to bust my balls on every post. I didn't realize I had to be extremely specific on what type of guns I can buy. Perhaps I should just delete all my posts here so I can make it my own business and no one else's.

Thanks again for the advice I didn't need or the info I already knew.

MacCool · 05-05-2014, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ

Hey, Mac. I appreciate your input but you don't have to bust my balls on every post. I didn't realize I had to be extremely specific on what type of guns I can buy. Perhaps I should just delete all my posts here so I can make it my own business and no one else's.

Thanks again for the advice I didn't need or the info I already knew.

You could just delete the inaccurate or misleading ones.

You're right though, I could have just corrected my original post when I figured out you were from Minnesota instead of creating a new post. Sorry about that.

H2O_Doc · 05-05-2014, 09:37 AM

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Interesting. I appreciate the perspective. The basis of the Constitutionally-guaranteed right to bear arms in the US has its roots in English Common Law going back centuries wherein the right to self-defense was acknowledged as a "natural right"... a fundamental human right. The framers of the Constitution were very thoughtful in including it in the Bill of Rights on that basis. They also knew that if it was indeed the right of the people to throw off a tyrannical government, those people would need the tools to do so. In England today, you can't even buy a steak knife.

Interesting the way these cultures evolve.

We lifted much of our bill of rights from the English Bill or rights and their concept of the right to arms is very different than the current American view, especially with respect to the regulation of that right.

MacCool · 05-05-2014, 09:57 AM

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We lifted much of our bill of rights from the English Bill or rights and their concept of the right to arms is very different than the current American view, especially with respect to the regulation of that right.

H2O_Doc · 05-05-2014, 10:49 AM

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SouthArk370Z · 05-05-2014, 10:52 AM

Thanks to OWA 1996/VCRA 2006, assaults with cutlery are at an all-time low.

Tweek · 05-05-2014, 10:54 AM

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Is this for real?

Chuck33079 · 05-05-2014, 10:54 AM

What happens when someone over there assaults someone else with a rock? Are rocks going to be regulated? It's hard to believe that there was a time they were pretty damn close to ruling most of the world.

MacCool · 05-05-2014, 12:23 PM

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Is this for real?

Oh yes. Google Offensive Weapons Act. Oddly enough...violent crime in Britain is at an all-time high and significantly exceeds the US on a per capita basis.

Chuck33079 · 05-05-2014, 12:25 PM

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Oh yes. Google Offensive Weapons Act. Oddly enough...violent crime in Britain is at an all-time high and significantly exceeds the US on a per capita basis.

And there's a huge reason why Britain, and a good chunk of the rest of European countries are having issues. It damn sure isn't because of weapons.

SouthArk370Z · 05-05-2014, 12:49 PM

It sounds trite by now but it's very true: guns (and weapons in general) don't kill people, people kill people.

Humans are smart enough to turn just about any object into a lethal weapon. Sticks and rocks worked great for hundreds of thousands of years ... until some of the other humans got bigger sticks and rocks. The jaw of a donkey has been used as a weapon of mass destruction.

Even if you manage to get rid of everything that could be used as a weapon, we still have our hands, feet, teeth, &c.

Banning weapons and expecting violence to decrease is like banning sex ed and expecting the teen birthrate to decline. Or expecting Communism/Socialism to work in the real world. YMMV

Trips · 05-05-2014, 06:04 PM

AK has already Warned people to STOP with the political references or posts.

Im going to ask that WE get on topic or I'll just CLOSE this and that'll be the end of that.

You guys are pretty much Adults here so Im asking too PLEASE respect your fellow members

That would like this thread to remain open to share gun experiences as well as tips.

This issue is NOT a point of discussion as AK already Warned folks.

Thank You.

I did get to shoot a 45. and a 38. for the first time while out in NM

Danm 45. had a kick

synolimit · 05-05-2014, 08:27 PM

Tracer + dry grass = football fields of fresh nitrogen being introduced into the soil.

The dots of color you see are people

SmoothZ · 05-05-2014, 09:17 PM

Got a cheap gun case for the AR today. I only bought it to carry the AR to/from the house and the range. I also liked the fact that it's made in Murica! lol

equalme · 05-06-2014, 10:15 PM

So I've been thinking about picking up a gun to play around with at the range. Don't really care for it being used for home defense or concealed.

At first I was looking at 9mm handguns but was told that .22 rifles like the HK 22LR MP5 would be better for the range. I've shot a .22 rifle before and it was kind of boring...I think I want something with more kick.

Any recommendations? My price range is no more than $500 but I'd like to keep it around $300ish if possible.

05-05-2014, 08:18 AM	#3421 (permalink)
SmoothZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Arrakis Posts: 7,952 Drives: giant sandworm Rep Power: 36	Hey, Mac. I appreciate your input but you don't have to bust my balls on every post. I didn't realize I had to be extremely specific on what type of guns I can buy. Perhaps I should just delete all my posts here so I can make it my own business and no one else's. Thanks again for the advice I didn't need or the info I already knew. __________________ "Once you go Asian, you never go Caucasian." "I talk to myself, and when I do that, I know I'm talking to an intelligent person."

05-05-2014, 10:52 AM	#3426 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324198	Thanks to OWA 1996/VCRA 2006, assaults with cutlery are at an all-time low. SmoothZ likes this. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

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Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	What happens when someone over there assaults someone else with a rock? Are rocks going to be regulated? It's hard to believe that there was a time they were pretty damn close to ruling most of the world. DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

05-05-2014, 12:49 PM	#3431 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324198	It sounds trite by now but it's very true: guns (and weapons in general) don't kill people, people kill people. Humans are smart enough to turn just about any object into a lethal weapon. Sticks and rocks worked great for hundreds of thousands of years ... until some of the other humans got bigger sticks and rocks. The jaw of a donkey has been used as a weapon of mass destruction. Even if you manage to get rid of everything that could be used as a weapon, we still have our hands, feet, teeth, &c. Banning weapons and expecting violence to decrease is like banning sex ed and expecting the teen birthrate to decline. Or expecting Communism/Socialism to work in the real world. YMMV Chuck33079 likes this. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma Last edited by SouthArk370Z; 05-05-2014 at 12:51 PM.

05-05-2014, 06:04 PM	#3432 (permalink)
Trips Administrator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Disneyland, Ca Posts: 8,730 Drives: 🔰 Rep Power: 10	AK has already Warned people to STOP with the political references or posts. Im going to ask that WE get on topic or I'll just CLOSE this and that'll be the end of that. You guys are pretty much Adults here so Im asking too PLEASE respect your fellow members That would like this thread to remain open to share gun experiences as well as tips. This issue is NOT a point of discussion as AK already Warned folks. Thank You. I did get to shoot a 45. and a 38. for the first time while out in NM Danm 45. had a kick SmoothZ likes this. __________________

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05-05-2014, 09:17 PM	#3434 (permalink)
SmoothZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Arrakis Posts: 7,952 Drives: giant sandworm Rep Power: 36	Got a cheap gun case for the AR today. I only bought it to carry the AR to/from the house and the range. I also liked the fact that it's made in Murica! lol DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ "Once you go Asian, you never go Caucasian." "I talk to myself, and when I do that, I know I'm talking to an intelligent person."

05-06-2014, 10:15 PM	#3435 (permalink)
equalme Track Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 656 Drives: RCF Rep Power: 13	Thinking about buying a gun. So I've been thinking about picking up a gun to play around with at the range. Don't really care for it being used for home defense or concealed. At first I was looking at 9mm handguns but was told that .22 rifles like the HK 22LR MP5 would be better for the range. I've shot a .22 rifle before and it was kind of boring...I think I want something with more kick. Any recommendations? My price range is no more than $500 but I'd like to keep it around $300ish if possible. __________________ ---Get your door handles painted---