Anyone here into firearms?

Rooster89 · 12-20-2012, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

Gauging prices really sucks.
Be ready amercia, cali like restrictions r coming your way in the near future.

Hell i'm already use to it. Let's hope they dont ban AR style rifles.

magazines. thats what they are going to focus on....and win

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2012, 07:53 AM

I don't know if any legislation would pass right now. But yes I bet they will try to limit magazines to 10 rounds and make it illegal to possess anything bigger than that. Wed have to turn in all our mags to the police.

Rooster89 · 12-20-2012, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I don't know if any legislation would pass right now. But yes I bet they will try to limit magazines to 10 rounds and make it illegal to possess anything bigger than that. Wed have to turn in all our mags to the police.

Forced lower capacity is a great excuse to move to a larger round. like the .308 win/7.62 nato

Hopefully they will only apply it to rifles. Because doublestacked handguns.

Robert_K · 12-20-2012, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I don't know if any legislation would pass right now. But yes I bet they will try to limit magazines to 10 rounds and make it illegal to possess anything bigger than that. Wed have to turn in all our mags to the police.

I highly doubt they'll make us turn anything in. The Libs know better than that. But as far as purchasing after a certain date... I can see that being passed.

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2012, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rooster89

Forced lower capacity is a great excuse to move to a larger round. like the .308 win/7.62 nato

Hopefully they will only apply it to rifles. Because doublestacked handguns.

A few states limit handgun capacity already.

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2012, 08:27 AM

My guesses are proposed legislation will attempt to:

Require background checks on ALL purchases (i.e. ban private party sales)
Ban "Assault Rifles," potentially with no grandfathering.
Limit magazine capacity for all semi-auto firearms to 10 rounds with no grandfathering of existing "hi cap" mags
Heavily restrict transport outside the home... no concealed carry?

The last one... maybe not. But I think the AR ban, closing the "gun show loophole," and limiting magazine capacity.

Of course they'll completely overlook the real problem, which is mental health.

I don't necessarily have a problem with requiring an FFL to broker private party sales as long as there is a reasonable maximum brokerage fee that they can charge. This would prevent law abiding gun owners from unknowingly selling to criminals.

I think mental health records should be better integrated in the background check process. It could help prevent future VT and Aurora type events where the shooter had a clear mental health issue that should have made them ineligible for firearm ownership.

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2012, 08:35 AM

We might get some really wacky ideas too... like banning the .223/5.56 round. Apparently this idea has been thrown around by the Violence Policy Center. Show's how much they know about firearms. I'm quite sure my 7mm Mauser is more powerful. :|

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2012, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

My guesses are proposed legislation will attempt to:

Require background checks on ALL purchases (i.e. ban private party sales)
Ban "Assault Rifles," potentially with no grandfathering.
Limit magazine capacity for all semi-auto firearms to 10 rounds with no grandfathering of existing "hi cap" mags
Heavily restrict transport outside the home... no concealed carry?

The last one... maybe not. But I think the AR ban, closing the "gun show loophole," and limiting magazine capacity.

Of course they'll completely overlook the real problem, which is mental health.

I don't necessarily have a problem with requiring an FFL to broker private party sales as long as there is a reasonable maximum brokerage fee that they can charge. This would prevent law abiding gun owners from unknowingly selling to criminals.

I think mental health records should be better integrated in the background check process. It could help prevent future VT and Aurora type events where the shooter had a clear mental health issue that should have made them ineligible for firearm ownership.

Also, we'll most certainly get some sort of ammo restrictions...

Online sales ban?

Sales only through FFL with background check?

Purchases over a certain number of rounds reported to government?

Robert_K · 12-20-2012, 08:53 AM

They'll never be able to get ALL of America to turn in the weapons. Won't happen.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-20-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I don't know if any legislation would pass right now. But yes I bet they will try to limit magazines to 10 rounds and make it illegal to possess anything bigger than that. Wed have to turn in all our mags to the police.

HA!!!! From my cold dead hands Bruh... My cold dead hands!

i have para ordnance mags that cost $50 each, Beretta & CZ ext. mags that cost $250 worth of AR and AK mags combined. I ain't givin' the police nothing. I'd rather destroy them myself if it came down to it.

FASCISM @ it's best. Make people spend thousands on legal gun parts for a decade. Then make it illegal and confiscate those parts because the gov't failed to enforce the mental health area of the 4473 and because some gun owners choose not to keep there guns locked away safely in a armored heat-proof safe, away from there psychotic relatives and offspring???

Not only is it fASCIST. It's downright illogical and moronic. No country has the capability of defending it self from an organized foreign army, as we do here in the U.S. of A. Land of the free, home of the brave.

Now some athiest, crybaby who's scared of school prayer and the redneck next door that likes to go hunting every fall, has to lobby against there own personal fears. And DEMOCRATS are always there to enforce control.

We fight so hard to prevent a socialized healthcare system cuz it doesnt envoke "FREEDOM" But the patriot act and gun control are the two potential laws that made us a fascist society. I'll take socialism over facsism any day.

Enforce the mental health area of the 4473.
Either get armed security for schools or Find and train, 4 candidate teachers per school with a gun and law enforcement tactical training, in order to protect the building. Give them a $12,000 bonus for taking the initiative. This is something that can be adopted in malls, Theaters, and other public arenas.

The Tragedy in CT is heartbreaking. But it's a COMMUNITY issue NOT a NATIONAL issue, and definitely NOTa GUN CONTROL issue in terms of bans. Just enforce the mental health area of the 4473, Maybe we need a gun-safe mandate for muliple gun-owners. Thats it!!!

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2012, 09:00 AM

Since when did gov't care what the root cause is? They don't want armed resistance citizens.

Lots of people say they'll never give their guns up... but I bet the percentage of owners that would "put up a fight" is so minuscule it's a non issue.

Rooster89 · 12-20-2012, 09:03 AM

But what will pass?

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2012, 09:05 AM

I don't think anything will pass at this time.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-20-2012, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Also, we'll most certainly get some sort of ammo restrictions...

Online sales ban?

Sales only through FFL with background check?

Purchases over a certain number of rounds reported to government?

I'm all for gun control when it means... Use both hands.

May i add. We sell $4 billion in guns annually which the news says that though it helps our economy, its no ipod/iphone in terms of stimulation, which produces 10x more money. But they didn't add in the constant purchases of ammo, events, and associated equip we buy along with those guns. Because people buy guns, they also buy more survival gear, clothing and accessories. The purchase of a gun stimulates the idea to embrace survivalism which increases sporting goods sales dramatically. If you add up that business with the gun business, i'm sure it equals the iphone market. They downplay this gun control issue a lot. The economy is going to feel it when 60% of all guns on the market becomes illegal. The trickle down will be a loss of interest in survivalism, which will probably lose $30,000,000,000+ from the american economy annually. Also, sporting goods stores wont need as many salesman. You'd see a third of sporting good sales jobs lost. Iphone better double sales so those sporting good salesguys can sell phones now.

Nice work Fascist America. You're about to further destroy, whats left the american economy.

OMGiGOTaZ · 12-20-2012, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I'm all for gun control when it means... Use both hands.

May i add. We sell $4 billion in guns annually which the news says that though it helps our economy, its no ipod/iphone in terms of stimulation, which produces 10x more money. But they didn't add in the constant purchases of ammo, events, and associated equip we buy along with those guns. Because people buy guns, they also buy more survival gear, clothing and accessories. The purchase of a gun stimulates the idea to embrace survivalism which increases sporting goods sales dramatically. If you add up that business with the gun business, i'm sure it equals the iphone market. They downplay this gun control issue a lot. The economy is going to feel it when 60% of all guns on the market becomes illegal. The trickle down will be a loss of interest in survivalism, which will probably lose $30,000,000,000+ from the american economy annually. Also, sporting goods stores wont need as many salesman. You'd see a third of sporting good sales jobs lost. Iphone better double sales so those sporting good salesguys can sell phones now.

Nice work Fascist America. You're about to further destroy, whats left the american economy.

You make a great point! Let's look at Store's Like Gander Mountain, Cabelas, Bass Pro Shops, and all the Mom and Pop Shops in between. Your going to need to create A LOT more jobs now becuase many of these will all be gone!

12-20-2012, 07:53 AM	#2612 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I don't know if any legislation would pass right now. But yes I bet they will try to limit magazines to 10 rounds and make it illegal to possess anything bigger than that. Wed have to turn in all our mags to the police. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

12-20-2012, 08:27 AM	#2616 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	My guesses are proposed legislation will attempt to: Require background checks on ALL purchases (i.e. ban private party sales) Ban "Assault Rifles," potentially with no grandfathering. Limit magazine capacity for all semi-auto firearms to 10 rounds with no grandfathering of existing "hi cap" mags Heavily restrict transport outside the home... no concealed carry? The last one... maybe not. But I think the AR ban, closing the "gun show loophole," and limiting magazine capacity. Of course they'll completely overlook the real problem, which is mental health. I don't necessarily have a problem with requiring an FFL to broker private party sales as long as there is a reasonable maximum brokerage fee that they can charge. This would prevent law abiding gun owners from unknowingly selling to criminals. I think mental health records should be better integrated in the background check process. It could help prevent future VT and Aurora type events where the shooter had a clear mental health issue that should have made them ineligible for firearm ownership. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

12-20-2012, 08:35 AM	#2617 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	We might get some really wacky ideas too... like banning the .223/5.56 round. Apparently this idea has been thrown around by the Violence Policy Center. Show's how much they know about firearms. I'm quite sure my 7mm Mauser is more powerful. :\| __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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12-20-2012, 09:00 AM	#2621 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Since when did gov't care what the root cause is? They don't want armed resistance citizens. Lots of people say they'll never give their guns up... but I bet the percentage of owners that would "put up a fight" is so minuscule it's a non issue. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

12-20-2012, 09:05 AM	#2623 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I don't think anything will pass at this time. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!