Anyone here into firearms?

xdeslitx · 02-04-2012, 03:31 AM

i live in LA county. I asked a gun store about CCW and they gave me a reason that there's too many cops in this county so they feel there's no reason for citizens to have the need for CCW which is why you can't get it.

I just took my HSC test today and one of the questions was about CCW. I got the answer right when i chose something like "it is impossible to get CCW"

m4a1mustang · 02-04-2012, 08:29 AM

I feel sorry for my fellow Americans having their rights infringed!

MacCool · 02-04-2012, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by xdeslitx

i live in LA county. I asked a gun store about CCW and they gave me a reason that there's too many cops in this county so they feel there's no reason for citizens to have the need for CCW which is why you can't get it.

Brings to mind the old joke:

-Q: "Why do you carry a gun?
-A: "Because a police officer is too heavy."

Or the other old saying about carrying a gun..."When seconds count, the police are only minutes away".

m4a1mustang · 02-04-2012, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

Brings to mind the old joke:

-Q: "Why do you carry a gun?
-A: "Because a police officer is too heavy."

Or the other old saying about carrying a gun..."When seconds count, the police are only minutes away".

The last one is my favorite because it's so true. Unless you're super lucky the cops are almost never there when you need them.

BlackZeda · 02-04-2012, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

Your midlength DD barrel has a gas port sufficient to drive a heavier buffer. If you break the rifle down, you'll see a letter stamped on the end of the buffer. If it's a "C" it's a carbine buffer and you should definitely go buy an "H" buffer. Depending on the ammo, you might even be able to go to an H2. Something to try - the heavier the buffer, the more it mitigates the recoil impulse. There's no need to get all fancy - the Spike's buffer is OK...about the weight of an H buffer. Its powdered tungsten is supposed to be more effective. I have one around here somewhere...it's just snake oil IMHO. Any old H or H2 buffer will do. Some people recommend a spring from Tactical Springs (Sprinco). I use them (blue) in rifles I build, but I doubt they're that much superior. OTOH, they're pretty cheap and well made.

Relative to recoil management/muzzle climb reduction, first step is a mid-length gas system, which you have. Next would be the heaviest buffer your rifle will run, H, maybe H2, maybe even H3. Third would be a compensator. If you really want to go balls out, skip the stupid hydraulic buffer (IOW, ignore that silly doofus from 'Sons of Guns') and consider a VLTOR A5 system. You wouldn't need the stock, but note that with the A5, the receiver extension is a little longer and your stock will lack 3/4 inch from closing all the way to the end plate (which really doesn't matter since it's unlikely you'll ever shoot it all the way closed). On my Noveske Light Recce (midlength), I have use a BattleComp compensator (by far the best balance of compensator vs blast/noise) and an A5 spring/buffer/extension. I let a buddy (LEO and firearm trainer) shoot it and after shooting he looked at the upper to make sure it wasn't a .22 upper. Very soft-shooting rifle that gets back on target very quickly.

Cool, that is some great info. I think after I get back from my business trip I will go to Bowers Tactical and weight all my buffers since none of them have any markings on them (weird, I have seen the "H" stamp on others). After that I will probably buy a couple different weights and take this baby to the range. After that I will decide if I wanna flip for the Battle Comp depending on the performance...I have eyeballed those for sure.

Thanks again and I will let you know!

BlackZeda · 02-04-2012, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by xdeslitx

just passed my HSC...i am now legal to purchase a handgun.
no idea why i was worried i wouldn't pass...literally only retards would fail that test lol

Congratulations...you have been graciously bestowed god-given rights by idiotic politicians

MacCool · 02-04-2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

Cool, that is some great info. I think after I get back from my business trip I will go to Bowers Tactical and weight all my buffers since none of them have any markings on them (weird, I have seen the "H" stamp on others). After that I will probably buy a couple different weights and take this baby to the range. After that I will decide if I wanna flip for the Battle Comp depending on the performance...I have eyeballed those for sure.

Thanks again and I will let you know!

If the buffer isn't stamped, it's probably a carbine buffer. Replace for sure, IMHO, especially since it's likely that that lighter buffer is banging the end of the receiver extension and the BCG is taking more of a beating than it needs to. They're only about $20-$25. No need to do anything with the spring...carbine spring is fine. Some weaker ammo may not cycle an H2 buffer, but I shoot almost entirely PMC Bronze and have no problem. There are a lot of variations of gas port size, gas length, and BCG mass that all go into a mfgr's decision as to what buffer to include, and a carbine buffer is just easier because it's less likely that they'll get complaints back about short-stroking, not to mention that a carbine buffer is a lot cheaper.

MacCool · 02-04-2012, 10:28 AM

I don't know if this was ever posted here, but here's a repeat if so:

The National Gun Victims Action Council is trying to organize a nationwide boycott of Starbucks on February 14 because of their refusal to ban guns in their stores.

Starbucks Promotes Pro-gun Agenda Gun Victims Action Council

The other side of that coin is the "anti-boycott" planned by The Truth About Guns (TTAG)

Starbucks “$2 for 2A” Appreciation Day Going Viral | The Truth About Guns

Bottom line, consider buying some coffee at Starbucks on February 14. And consider paying with a $2 bill.

But, please do us all a favor....don't open carry. Such an in-your-face political statement is counterproductive. Concealed Carry means just that...conceal it, even if your state allows open carry. No need to get everyone all upset, just quietly affirm your rights, and show Starbucks that you support their decision.

This state (Minnesota) has an interesting take on businesses banning guns. A very specific sign has to be posted, and the statutes not only specify the wording, but also the size of the sign, and even the font used. Anything else makes it pointless. And, in fact the signs are pointless anyway, because even if you carry a weapon in a store that is posted "no guns", all they can do (if they catch you) is ask you to leave. If and only if you refuse to leave, they can call the cops, who in turn can come and ticket you with trespass, which is a $25 dollar fine, and has no bearing on your permit, present or future. Most Minnesotans that carry concealed just ignore those signs if and when they encounter them, and that would include Starbucks, if they ever change their mind.

m4a1mustang · 02-04-2012, 10:33 AM

I'll definitely be stopping by Starbucks on the 14th.

xdeslitx · 02-04-2012, 01:03 PM

so I think I'm going to pass on the SA 1911 Trophy Match because i want to be able to shoot more and 9mm rounds are just cheaper than 45s.

What do you think of a 9mm 1911 like the SA Loaded?

any other suggestions on what I should be looking at for a 9mm?

PS: my uncle just told me that he's mailing me a bunch of 9mm ammo for free...woot!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacCool

Brings to mind the old joke:

-Q: "Why do you carry a gun?
-A: "Because a police officer is too heavy."

Or the other old saying about carrying a gun..."When seconds count, the police are only minutes away".

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I feel sorry for my fellow Americans having their rights infringed!

yup while the gangsters in LA are all carrying
americans like me who are going by the law has no way of defending myself if needed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackZeda

Congratulations...you have been graciously bestowed god-given rights by idiotic politicians

thanks hahaha seriously and idiot must have written that test because only a retard would fail it

m4a1mustang · 02-04-2012, 01:20 PM

I like 9mm 1911s.

xdeslitx · 02-04-2012, 01:25 PM

which one is that?

I was looking at Kimber and SA

m4a1mustang · 02-04-2012, 01:27 PM

It's a Colt 70 Series Combat Commander. My dad bought it in 1980 I believe.

xdeslitx · 02-04-2012, 01:28 PM

i got so many things to research

i never knew buying my first gun would be this confusing lol

BlackZeda · 02-04-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

I miss my Kimber.

Semtex had a nice 1911. I am not sure if this was a 9mm or .45, but I know they make these in both.

02-04-2012, 08:29 AM	#1787 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I feel sorry for my fellow Americans having their rights infringed! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

02-04-2012, 10:28 AM	#1793 (permalink)
MacCool A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,349 Drives: 370Z PW 2014 Rep Power: 16	I don't know if this was ever posted here, but here's a repeat if so: The National Gun Victims Action Council is trying to organize a nationwide boycott of Starbucks on February 14 because of their refusal to ban guns in their stores. Starbucks Promotes Pro-gun Agenda Gun Victims Action Council The other side of that coin is the "anti-boycott" planned by The Truth About Guns (TTAG) Starbucks “$2 for 2A” Appreciation Day Going Viral \| The Truth About Guns Bottom line, consider buying some coffee at Starbucks on February 14. And consider paying with a $2 bill. But, please do us all a favor....don't open carry. Such an in-your-face political statement is counterproductive. Concealed Carry means just that...conceal it, even if your state allows open carry. No need to get everyone all upset, just quietly affirm your rights, and show Starbucks that you support their decision. This state (Minnesota) has an interesting take on businesses banning guns. A very specific sign has to be posted, and the statutes not only specify the wording, but also the size of the sign, and even the font used. Anything else makes it pointless. And, in fact the signs are pointless anyway, because even if you carry a weapon in a store that is posted "no guns", all they can do (if they catch you) is ask you to leave. If and only if you refuse to leave, they can call the cops, who in turn can come and ticket you with trespass, which is a $25 dollar fine, and has no bearing on your permit, present or future. Most Minnesotans that carry concealed just ignore those signs if and when they encounter them, and that would include Starbucks, if they ever change their mind. Last edited by MacCool; 02-04-2012 at 10:30 AM.

02-04-2012, 10:33 AM	#1794 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I'll definitely be stopping by Starbucks on the 14th. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

02-04-2012, 01:20 PM	#1796 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I like 9mm 1911s. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

02-04-2012, 01:27 PM	#1798 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	It's a Colt 70 Series Combat Commander. My dad bought it in 1980 I believe. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

02-04-2012, 03:31 AM	#1786 (permalink)
xdeslitx A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tu-jungle, CA Posts: 13,045 Drives: Yaris Rep Power: 63	i live in LA county. I asked a gun store about CCW and they gave me a reason that there's too many cops in this county so they feel there's no reason for citizens to have the need for CCW which is why you can't get it. I just took my HSC test today and one of the questions was about CCW. I got the answer right when i chose something like "it is impossible to get CCW"

02-04-2012, 01:25 PM	#1797 (permalink)
xdeslitx A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tu-jungle, CA Posts: 13,045 Drives: Yaris Rep Power: 63	which one is that? I was looking at Kimber and SA

02-04-2012, 01:28 PM	#1799 (permalink)
xdeslitx A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tu-jungle, CA Posts: 13,045 Drives: Yaris Rep Power: 63	i got so many things to research i never knew buying my first gun would be this confusing lol