Originally Posted by m4a1mustang Whether gun control has anything to do with that at all the media will likely spin it against us... there's no one to stop them from
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Guns are safe in the hands of the responsible citizen. Instead of blaming the tool we need to be more productive as a society and blame the user...
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It is important to keep in mind that the main customer of the police is the public, and to be specific the subset of the public that would tend to be more willing to use their weapon against them.
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Crime drop due to lax marijuana enforcement?
So crime rates have been dropping despite our horrible economy, and I think it is valid to not singularly point to gun ownership/concealed carry as the cause. BUT...I think it is large factor, and you better believe that politicians and news media people of a certain ilk would directly blame gun ownership/concealed carry if crime rates went up (not even acknowleding that crime goes up in a bad economy in the first place). Their lust for limiting people's freedom, thus gaining more power for themselves knows no bounds and can't be constrained by reason.
I would also like to point out a couple other things that may be in play with the declining crime rates: To Obama and Holder's credit, they have to some extent, essentially decriminalized the possesion and distribution of marijuana. That in combination with the quasi-legalization of pot in several states (proud to say that Colorado has been a rational leader) has decoupled the most popular recreational drug activity from the much more nefarious activites of the "hard" drugs. Disclaimer: I am not a marijuana user, but have used it in the past. I am on the other hand a libertarian and wish to see all drugs decriminalized and regulated. It is a shame that Obama has created a massive welfare state and has expanded government to unacceptable levels IMO. This seems to have lessened the impact that the bad economy has had on crime. Unfortunately this may have terrible consequences in the future as it will limit the opportunity for future generations to be properous, therefore not resort to crime. God forbid we have another economic downturn where we can't print money and artifically prop up th economy to get us through. Hopefully I am wrong... So there is a whole lot of correlation for ya' |
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H&K P2000SK or P30 for concealed carry?
I wanted to get some opinions about two models of H&Ks. I will be using it for a concealed carry firearm and most likely get an IWB holster. The two models I am considering are the P30 and the P2000SK. Right now I am favoring the P2000SK since it is about a half inch shorter.
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Hey BZ, I replied to your PM. I don't own the P2000SK but I have some experience with it and really like it. If I didn't like my Glock 26 so much I might have bought one of those. Unfortunately I don't have any experience with the P30 so I can't compare.
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Since it is so small and I have a second concealed carry class this weekend (and I don't hate it) I might just pick it up today. I love my Full size USP .45 and .40SW and am planning on picking up a HK45 sometime this year, so I don't think it would be a bad move to get the P2000SK in any case as you can see I am a big fan of H&Ks! Thanks for the feedback fellas...I will let you know how it turns out! |
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So something interesting happened at the gun store. I decided I couldn't part my my H&K USP .40SW which oddly gave me the-skys-the-limit attitude
There was a used .40SW LEM P2000SK for $629 and a new .40SW DA/SA P2000SK for $829. Didn't like the LEM version at all and then I saw the HK45C! OMG, what a beautiful piece of ballistic art...I almost bought it right there even though it was $1039. Resisting the urge to make an impulse purchase I decided to wait till tomorrow and sleep on it as it is about the same size as a Glock compact. When walking out I noticed that in the 9mm case there was a used DA/SA P2000SK which looked like it was in really good condition for only $600. I have wanted to own a 9mm for a really long time so it was almost a no brainer. So here she is with another picture of my little H&K family. I am pretty psyched by the purchase and I really like how it sits in my hand after comparing it to a Glock. H&Ks seem to be a bit more "upright" like a 1911. A Glock almost sits like a revolver to me, which I would get used to...not a criticism. It looks like I will be getting an HK45 sometime in the near future. Thanks for all the input and enjoy the pics! |
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