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RiCharlie 02-21-2012 02:07 PM

cars that drive themselves
 
Remember that story i posted about a guy in the future that had a car that drove itself?

http://www.the370z.com/lounge-off-to...new-story.html

Well guess what..its coming true. :eek:

Maybe the new Z will drive all by itself and the only difference between auto and manual is that in manual you get to chose the destination whereas in auto the computer does it for you based on its analysis of your lifestyle! :eek::mad:


Bottom Line - Nevada first state to authorize driverless cars

Jordo! 02-21-2012 02:37 PM

I thought BMW already had something like this in the works -- swear I saw this on top gear.

I'm sure they'll be on the road soon enough -- there's already bits and pieces of the tech in new cars.

KillerBee370 02-21-2012 02:38 PM

Eventually (not in our lifetime) the world will be a very dull and "safe" place controlled largely by predetermined computer controled guidance. People will call it "economical" and "prudent" but it will prove to undue much of human adventure and spirit.

It'll be like that big spaceship in the movie Wall-E or the world of i-Robot.

nmjaxx9 02-21-2012 03:33 PM

Honestly I dont see the point of a car that drives itself, isnt part of the reason why you drive your car, is to enjoy it? If a car drives it self, it would be like taking a taxi or a bus, no fun. :icon17:

Jordo! 02-21-2012 07:10 PM

It would be nice to have that option, tho. Sleepy commutes to work, for example.

Actually the way some people drive, I might feel safer knowing R2D2 was at the helm :ugh2:

daisuke149 02-21-2012 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1556804)
Honestly I dont see the point of a car that drives itself, isnt part of the reason why you drive your car, is to enjoy it? If a car drives it self, it would be like taking a taxi or a bus, no fun. :icon17:

uhh being that we are on an enthusiast site... you may think so..

but to most of the world the car is just a utility to get places or get things done. As is the bicycle... the train.. the airplane... etc.

nmjaxx9 02-21-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1557252)
uhh being that we are on an enthusiast site... you may think so..

but to most of the world the car is just a utility to get places or get things done. As is the bicycle... the train.. the airplane... etc.

Being we are on an enthusiast site I was referring more to the Z, or a sports car. Im sure people who have a sports car wouldn't want it to drive itself...whats the point of that. :ugh2:

People who see it as a utility or means of transport wasn't what I was getting at.

RiCharlie 02-22-2012 07:47 AM

I hope you all had a chance to read my story about the distant future when all cars drive themselves...not a very pleasant thought for enthusiasts like us..

RiCharlie 02-22-2012 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 1556701)
Eventually (not in our lifetime) the world will be a very dull and "safe" place controlled largely by predetermined computer controled guidance. People will call it "economical" and "prudent" but it will prove to undue much of human adventure and spirit.

It'll be like that big spaceship in the movie Wall-E or the world of i-Robot.

Very true and not a very pleasant thought!

daisuke149 02-22-2012 07:54 AM

one of the things i think alot of people arent reading...

some states have passed laws regarding cars that drive themselves etc etc.

basically that a fully auto car, may require almost no license to operate. You can switch to manual mode and take over any time but then you would need a license to do so.

So unless somewhere along the way they pass a law saying that no one can drive in manual mode... its not so bad. I would love to be able to get in a car at 5 am on monday and say airport and not give a **** till i get there... but then on a saturday morning take over and go cruising in the mountains.

shadoquad 02-22-2012 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1557252)
uhh being that we are on an enthusiast site... you may think so..

but to most of the world the car is just a utility to get places or get things done. As is the bicycle... the train.. the airplane... etc.

:iagree:, but it's a shame.

I know people who have said for months that they can't wait until we all have automated commutes.

It makes me sick personally, because I'm an enthusiast, but a lot of people are hailing this invention as a great convenience for their lifestyles.

To be fair, these are people who probably shouldn't drive in the first place. They're "bothered" by their commutes, so they talk on their cell phones, eat, do their makeup, all while driving. Automating those aholes on the road would be safer for us all.

The Dimer 02-22-2012 09:56 AM

You mean I could drive to out to the bars and have my car drive me back? Sucks for you liver. :p

shadoquad 02-22-2012 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dimer (Post 1558059)
You mean I could drive to out to the bars and have my car drive me back? Sucks for you liver. :p

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

eddieconfetti 02-22-2012 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dimer (Post 1558059)
You mean I could drive to out to the bars and have my car drive me back? Sucks for you liver. :p

:iagree::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

nmjaxx9 02-22-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1557879)
:iagree:, but it's a shame.

I know people who have said for months that they can't wait until we all have automated commutes.

It makes me sick personally, because I'm an enthusiast, but a lot of people are hailing this invention as a great convenience for their lifestyles.

To be fair, these are people who probably shouldn't drive in the first place. They're "bothered" by their commutes, so they talk on their cell phones, eat, do their makeup, all while driving. Automating those aholes on the road would be safer for us all.

How is talking on the cellphone and eating a botheration to the driver? Don't see your logic...

Its called multitasking, and im sure even if cars drove themselves people wouldn't stop doing these things.

daisuke149 02-22-2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1558448)
How is talking on the cellphone and eating a botheration to the driver? Don't see your logic...

Its called multitasking, and im sure even if cars drove themselves people wouldn't stop doing these things.

comprehension = not your strength.

he is saying that people dont like the commute. So they fill it with doing other things, which makes everything unsafe.

He didnt say that multitasking itself was bothersome, but rather the fact that people get up in the morning and face a long commute to work.

nmjaxx9 02-22-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1558554)
comprehension = not your strength.

he is saying that people dont like the commute. So they fill it with doing other things, which makes everything unsafe.

He didnt say that multitasking itself was bothersome, but rather the fact that people get up in the morning and face a long commute to work.

Uhh, so you are saying that people talk on the phone, or do makeup because they dont like their commute.....:ugh2:

No, they do it to save time...lol Hence why I said they multitask...how are you answering on his behalf when you don't even know what you are saying.

daisuke149 02-22-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1558560)
Uhh, so you are saying that people talk on the phone, or do makeup because they dont like their commute.....:ugh2:

No, they do it to save time...lol Hence why I said they multitask...how are you answering on his behalf when you don't even know what you are saying.

if you like somthing and look forward to it, you dont do other things like doing it. You get things out of the way and or do them later.

Like if i were going on a mountain cruise, im not eating a donut, or on the phone, or doing art....

if im not looking foward to my drive to work, i think to myself, you know i'll just call AT&T when i drive to work to complain about the caller id not working.

tada.

daisuke149 02-22-2012 01:09 PM

oh and i can speak for Al cus hes my brother.... adopted, but still.

shadoquad 02-22-2012 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1558560)
Uhh, so you are saying that people talk on the phone, or do makeup because they dont like their commute.....:ugh2:

No, they do it to save time...lol Hence why I said they multitask...how are you answering on his behalf when you don't even know what you are saying.

daisuke is right on with what I meant.

Yes, people multitask because they do not treat driving seriously enough. They do not see it as important. Rather, they see it as a bothersome task.

That is precisely my point.

If people treated their responsibilities as a motorist with the attention it deserves, they would see that trying to "save time" while doing so is irresponsible and dangerous.

And, as I said, for those people, I would rather have a computer making their driving decisions so they could go about being a nuisance only to themselves and not risk our lives.

nmjaxx9 02-22-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1558562)
if you like somthing and look forward to it, you dont do other things like doing it. You get things out of the way and or do them later.

Like if i were going on a mountain cruise, im not eating a donut, or on the phone, or doing art....

if im not looking foward to my drive to work, i think to myself, you know i'll just call AT&T when i drive to work to complain about the caller id not working.

tada.

I like how you edited your mistake...lol. Which basically implied "people talk on the phone, etc because they don't like their commute" First fail.

Second, what you said next which makes nooo sense. a woman doesnt say "oh I hate my commute so let me do my makeup?" No, she does it because she is in a crunch for time. Second fail.

daisuke149 02-22-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1558568)
daisuke is right on with what I meant.

Yes, people multitask because they do not treat driving seriously enough. They do not see it as important. Rather, they see it as a bothersome task.

That is precisely my point.

If people treated their responsibilities as a motorist with the attention it deserves, they would see that trying to "save time" while doing so is irresponsible and dangerous.

And, as I said, for those people, I would rather have a computer making their driving decisions so they could go about being a nuisance only to themselves and not risk our lives.

whats up man.

high five..

no? okay chest bump

daisuke149 02-22-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1558573)
I like how you edited your mistake...lol. Which basically implied "people talk on the phone, etc because they don't like their commute" First fail.

Second, what you said next which makes nooo sense. a woman doesnt say "oh I hate my commute so let me do my makeup?" No, she does it because she is in a crunch for time. Second fail.

so.. does a woman do her makeup while sitting at the dinner table with a date?

nah, she takes it seriously enough and looks foward to it enough to get it done ahead of time.

same idea. if you care about it, you will not do other things during.

Applies to more than just a commute drive...

and p.s i havnt edited anything.

shadoquad 02-22-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1558573)
I like how you edited your mistake...lol. Which basically implied "people talk on the phone, etc because they don't like their commute" First fail.

Second, what you said next which makes nooo sense. a woman doesnt say "oh I hate my commute so let me do my makeup?" No, she does it because she is in a crunch for time. Second fail.

The point is, the woman doesn't say "oh I hate my commute so let me do my makeup?"

But her attitude is, "Where can I save time to do my makeup? Oh, on the way to work, since driving is a boring task anyway."

shadoquad 02-22-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1558575)
whats up man.

high five..

no? okay chest bump

http://www.topcultured.com/wp-conten...-high-five.jpg

nmjaxx9 02-22-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1558577)
so.. does a woman do her makeup while sitting at the dinner table with a date?

nah, she takes it seriously enough and looks foward to it enough to get it done ahead of time.

same idea. if you care about it, you will not do other things during.

Applies to more than just a commute drive...

and p.s i havnt edited anything.

Def did, should have quoted you on it actually. You basically said that people do things such as makeup, eat and stuff because they dislike driving. Wrong, if you wanna deny it now, thats okay to prove your point...which is nothing. ha.

Cmike2780 02-22-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1556699)
I thought BMW already had something like this in the works -- swear I saw this on top gear.

I'm sure they'll be on the road soon enough -- there's already bits and pieces of the tech in new cars.

There have been several car companies, the military and a few research labs that have been engineering autonimous cars, including the BMW seen on Top Gear. The system google has implemented is farther advanced however, allowing for variables outside of a track. A team of Stafford grads ran a self driving Audi TTS up Pikes Peak back in '10.

It's gonna trickle down eventually. Audi and other high end companies are already bringing out cars that can partially control the car with advanced cruise control systems. Audi has the "traffic jam assist" coming soon....Nissan meanwhile, will soon have acceleration suppression technology, womp womp.

nmjaxx9 02-22-2012 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1558565)
oh and i can speak for Al cus hes my brother.... adopted, but still.

Yeah but if you are going to talk on someones behalf Know what you are saying first, dont get excited just to retaliate back. Think before you write. lol

shadoquad 02-22-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1558585)
Def did, should have quoted you on it actually. You basically said that people do things such as makeup, eat and stuff because they dislike driving. Wrong, if you wanna deny it now, thats okay to prove your point...which is nothing. ha.

I like when people just declare themselves the winner of an argument :roflpuke2:

daisuke149 02-22-2012 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1558585)
Def did, should have quoted you on it actually. You basically said that people do things such as makeup, eat and stuff because they dislike driving. Wrong, if you wanna deny it now, thats okay to prove your point...which is nothing. ha.

anytime you edit a post, it says, last edited... so go look for it.

thanks.

P.s your point of makeup is invalid because your only talking about one thing.

people who check facebook while driving, call up random people while driving. These arent to save time, its to distract them from their commute. Because they are things they dont have to do, and trust me, if they were doing something they enjoyed, they wouldnt be doing those tasks during.

I like playing video games... but when i get to a map i hate, i end up alt tabbing, checking out new music etc. Im not "saving time" im just distracted as the task at hand isnt interesting to me.

daisuke149 02-22-2012 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1558589)
There have been several car companies, the military and a few research labs that have been engineering autonimous cars, including the BMW seen on Top Gear. The system google has implemented is farther advanced however, allowing for variables outside of a track. A team of Stafford grads ran a self driving Audi TTS up Pikes Peak back in '10.

It's gonna trickle down eventually. Audi and other high end companies are already bringing out cars that can partially control the car with advanced cruise control systems. Audi has the "traffic jam assist" coming soon....Nissan meanwhile, will soon have acceleration suppression technology, womp womp.

don't forget volvo's demonstration of "our car can see an object in front of you, notice your not paying attention and brake for you" system they showed on top gear too :p

daisuke149 02-22-2012 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1558592)
I like when people just declare themselves the winner of an argument :roflpuke2:

I like that idea. I hereby declare the Steelers winner of every superbowl from here on out. So the rest of the teams should just give up.

nmjaxx9 02-22-2012 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1558593)
anytime you edit a post, it says, last edited... so go look for it.

thanks.

P.s your point of makeup is invalid because your only talking about one thing.

people who check facebook while driving, call up random people while driving. These arent to save time, its to distract them from their commute. Because they are things they dont have to do, and trust me, if they were doing something they enjoyed, they wouldnt be doing those tasks during.

I like playing video games... but when i get to a map i hate, i end up alt tabbing, checking out new music etc. Im not "saving time" im just distracted as the task at hand isnt interesting to me.

So why don't you ask people who multitask in their car why they are doing it, chances are they are gonna say they are doing it to save time. Not because they hate or dislike driving.

And its okay you were quick to change it, so it didn't show, but you know what you said, and it was wrong. whether or not you'll admit is up to your character. lol.

shadoquad 02-22-2012 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1558603)
So why don't you ask people who multitask in their car why they are doing it, chances are they are gonna say they are doing it to save time. Not because they hate or dislike driving.

And its okay you were quick to change it, so it didn't show, but you know what you said, and it was wrong. whether or not you'll admit is up to your character. lol.

The point, again, as you've avoided, is that people who multitask in their car will say they're doing it to save time, but if they had enough interest in driving or treated it with the seriousness that it merits (remember, our lives are on the lines every time we drive), then they wouldn't put everyone out there at such terrible risk by doing their makeup or eating or calling their bffs.

daisuke149 02-22-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1558603)
So why don't you ask people who multitask in their car why they are doing it, chances are they are gonna say they are doing it to save time. Not because they hate or dislike driving.

And its okay you were quick to change it, so it didn't show, but you know what you said, and it was wrong. whether or not you'll admit is up to your character. lol.

i may change it, .00001 seconds after i post it, it would still say "last edited on:" by my post.. theres nothing i can do to avoid that if i were to edit my post.

therefor.. i never changed anything.. you just misread.. or didn't understand like you seem to be constantly doing.

nmjaxx9 02-22-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1558611)
The point, again, as you've avoided, is that people who multitask in their car will say they're doing it to save time, but if they had enough interest in driving or treated it with the seriousness that it merits (remember, our lives are on the lines every time we drive), then they wouldn't put everyone out there at such terrible risk by doing their makeup or eating or calling their bffs.

Not avoiding anything, im right here.

Now, you are going away from the point. Doesnt matter if they endanger lives, or what have you.

The main point is that people multitask to save time, or why else would it be called multitasking. They do it for that reason and that reason only, and you guy seem to disagree with it.

You claim, or as Daisuke did before he changed his answer, that they do it it because they dislike driving, wrong.

Thats the basis of the two arguments, you take a pick. I still stand by my first statement. Which is the multitask to save time, point blank.

Cmike2780 02-22-2012 01:38 PM

Seriously though, I want this option. I've been waiting since the 80's for somthing like this. It better sound like Mr. Feeny though.

http://www.navtones.com/media/image/...ne-7545632.jpg

Plus, I like taking naps while driving.

daisuke149 02-22-2012 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1558628)
Not avoiding anything, im right here.

Now, you are going away from the point. Doesnt matter if they endanger lives, or what have you.

The main point is that people multitask to save time, or why else would it be called multitasking. They do it for that reason and that reason only, and you guy seem to disagree with it.

You claim, or as Daisuke did before he changed his answer, that they do it it because they dislike driving, wrong.

Thats the basis of the two arguments, you take a pick. I still stand by my first statement. Which is the multitask to save time, point blank.


but your wrong. people multitask because they are bored, or dont have interest in the first task..

do you multitask during sex?
or while racing a car...

no.. you multi task while taking a poop.. or on your commute to work... or while in a meeting where your bored.

If you are engaged in your activity, interested in it and looking forward to it, you will not multitask..

for example again, your out on a date, everythings going great.. so you realize you havnt checked your phone and she hasnt either..

now your on another date, and both parties are a bit bored, you find each is randomly pulling out the phone and texting other friends or checking facebook.

When you do, irrelevant and unimportant things as part of the multitasking, its not saving time, because if you didn't do them, it wouldnt change anything. And again, i didnt change anything.. your absolutely retarded if you think that anyone can edit a post without it saying "last edited ..." not even the admin can do that.

nmjaxx9 02-22-2012 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1558642)
but your wrong. people multitask because they are bored, or dont have interest in the first task..

do you multitask during sex?
or while racing a car...

no.. you multi task while taking a poop.. or on your commute to work... or while in a meeting where your bored.

If you are engaged in your activity, interested in it and looking forward to it, you will not multitask..

for example again, your out on a date, everythings going great.. so you realize you havnt checked your phone and she hasnt either..

now your on another date, and both parties are a bit bored, you find each is randomly pulling out the phone and texting other friends or checking facebook.

When you do, irrelevant and unimportant things as part of the multitasking, its not saving time, because if you didn't do them, it wouldnt change anything. And again, i didnt change anything.. your absolutely retarded if you think that anyone can edit a post without it saying "last edited ..." not even the admin can do that.

Didnt you lose authority to answer for Shado back in page 2? Or was it when you changed your answer, lol. Anyways your posts have no meaning to me, since you are obviously, upset about something you are Clearly denying. Just be a man and own up to your mistake and ill respect it.

As for the argument, I said it before and ill say it again, multitasking in a Car is almost always to make up for time. Forget all these other situations you are bringing up to make your point valid. I don't know how many times I have to say it. ha. Thats the only basis of my argument, and if Im wrong ill accept it like a man does, but im not. So thats where i Stand.

daisuke149 02-22-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1558652)
Didnt you lose authority to answer for Shado back in page 2? Or was it when you changed your answer, lol. Anyways your posts have no meaning to me, since you are obviously, upset about something you are Clearly denying. Just be a man and own up to your mistake and ill respect it.

As for the argument, I said it before and ill say it again, multitasking in a Car is almost always to make up for time. Forget all these other situations you are bringing up to make your point valid. I don't know how many times I have to say it. ha. Thats the only basis of my argument, and if Im wrong ill accept it like a man does, but im not. So thats where i Stand.

you just changed your arguement from its to save time to.. its almost always to save time..

but its not. 2 out of 3 people here (me and shado vs you) argue that its not. given the size of the sample, we are the majority, until more people chime in.

And i didn't lose authority to do anything. this be the interwebs. Which means unfortunately that there are people like you on here, who just don't understand how things work (such as editing posts)

but its okay, you made a statement, and your sticking by it despite being wrong. Good to stick to you guns sometimes. Good luck with that.


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