Xbox 360 vs PS3

Spikuh · 11-02-2011, 05:49 PM

^^ As long as they can continue pushing out better graphics on the consoles, I'm ok with it.

However, I am afraid developers are going to cap out what can be done on both the PS3 and 360 soon. Only time will tell I guess.

Pelican170 · 11-03-2011, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Spikuh

^^ As long as they can continue pushing out better graphics on the consoles, I'm ok with it.

However, I am afraid developers are going to cap out what can be done on both the PS3 and 360 soon. Only time will tell I guess.

Developers are already limited due to the 360's limitations and having to make games for both consoles....

Cmike2780 · 11-03-2011, 10:41 AM

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Developers are already limited due to the 360's limitations and having to make games for both consoles....

The 360's only real limitation compared to the PS3 is the limited storage capacity of DVD's. Otherwise, the hardware capabilities a pretty close to the PS3.

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Originally Posted by Spikuh

^^ As long as they can continue pushing out better graphics on the consoles, I'm ok with it.

However, I am afraid developers are going to cap out what can be done on both the PS3 and 360 soon. Only time will tell I guess.

They probably capped it already. Alot of games have improved graphics from thier previous versions, but the hardware capabilities are pretty maxed out. Game developers are gonna have a hard time making games stable. I pretty sure the next gen consoles are in the works and could probably come out sooner. The problem is at what time they should release it. As long as the PS3/Xbox 360 is still selling strong, they're gonna hold off on introducing a new console.

007MI6 · 11-03-2011, 11:30 AM

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You need to install the game on the hard drive. I went with the PS3 320GB with the move bundle even though I don't use the move controller ever. I had only bought that because it happened to be on sale last year for $299.

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Some (most/all?) PS3 games install part of the game onto the HD for faster loading times. I remember when I first played MGS4, there was an initial install that took a few minutes but from then on there were none or only a few.

I know Halo:Reach loads up faster once installed on the HD of the 360 but I'm not sure if all 360 games function like this.

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Also, memory is used for game updates, which can happen many times through a games life which can add up. Also, if you download games, demo's, put your own music on the ps3 to play in games or just listen to, photos, videos, system updates, anything really on the ps3... they all use the hard drive... Also, the memory is easy to upgrade if needed, it uses a laptop Sata 2.5'' Hard Drive. I had a 60 GB and made it 250, but that just died so just bought a new 320 GB...

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The PS3 was designed to have a min. 10 year life cycle, so a new one is more like 4-5 years away since the PS3 came out in 2006. I think the same goes for the XBox 360.

To all!

Thank you very much! Couldn't really have a question answered much better. I've been out of the console and gaming world for a while and now I am more up to speed.

edub370 · 11-03-2011, 01:01 PM

i want someone with an xbox to explain in detail without using the words halo or forza....

Spikuh · 11-03-2011, 02:32 PM

^^You have to finish the thought first. :P

Pelican170 · 11-03-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikuh

^^You have to finish the thought first. :P

his point being its got nothing else to offer...???

Pelican170 · 11-03-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

The 360's only real limitation compared to the PS3 is the limited storage capacity of DVD's. Otherwise, the hardware capabilities a pretty close to the PS3.

They probably capped it already. Alot of games have improved graphics from thier previous versions, but the hardware capabilities are pretty maxed out. Game developers are gonna have a hard time making games stable. I pretty sure the next gen consoles are in the works and could probably come out sooner. The problem is at what time they should release it. As long as the PS3/Xbox 360 is still selling strong, they're gonna hold off on introducing a new console.

yup, thats what i mean... think how much more a game could carry if able...

I found it funny though to find out recently, that the new Battlefield 3 game (Which is freaking awesome for multiplayer) has 2 disks for the 360 and 1 for ps3, with the same content...

Cmike2780 · 11-03-2011, 04:39 PM

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yup, thats what i mean... think how much more a game could carry if able...

I found it funny though to find out recently, that the new Battlefield 3 game (Which is freaking awesome for multiplayer) has 2 disks for the 360 and 1 for ps3, with the same content...

They did the same for Forza. They gambled on HD DVD and lost. It might have been a different story if they used for game data.

Pelican170 · 11-03-2011, 05:00 PM

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They did the same for Forza. They gambled on HD DVD and lost. It might have been a different story if they used for game data.

oh didnt know that. Didnt know about the HD DVD either. so they have an HD DVD player in it??

Zaggeron · 11-03-2011, 05:06 PM

I can see how the number of disks might matter for RPGs with 4 or 5 disks or something, but something like Forza with a game disk and data disk?

Actually number of disks isn't important, it is how fast you can load that data onto the hard drive. For faster load times most PS3 and Xbox360 games require the games be installed to the HD (the last Drake's for the PS3 and a Halo one or two releases back were exceptions in that they were very efficient at seamlessly steaming in the data needed).

In loading to the HD, the 360 is much faster. E.g., you can actually load both Forza game disks onto your hard drive in the time it takes to load the data from one PS3 disk onto its HD (for example it takes ages to install GT5).

Cmike2780 · 11-03-2011, 05:16 PM

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oh didnt know that. Didnt know about the HD DVD either. so they have an HD DVD player in it??

They had an external add-on for it back when it came out. I don't remember how much it was, but it wasn't cheap. When HD-DVD flopped, they dropped it. It was a half-*** gamble by Microsoft and they never really committed to it. A lot of the success of Blu-ray can be traced back to the PS3.

Spikuh · 11-03-2011, 05:29 PM

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They had an external add-on for it back when it came out. I don't remember how much it was, but it wasn't cheap. When HD-DVD flopped, they dropped it. It was a half-*** gamble by Microsoft and they never really committed to it. A lot of the success of Blu-ray can be traced back to the PS3.

Don't forget that Wal-Mart endorsed bluray and not HD-DVD. That can be make or break on rival technology like those 2.

Microsoft will really need to pick up bluray with their next gen.

hide187 · 11-03-2011, 05:42 PM

I am an avid console gamer, it keeps me outta trouble. I could care less about micro$oft charging for Xbox Live. Its far superior to psn in many ways (speed, movie and game content, security!). 5$ a month is hardly a deal breaker. Ive only owned 4 ps3 games and prolly 50 xbox games. Playstations online chat ruined all gaming chances and thus renamed my ps3 the blu ray player.

I am a little shocked to see lotsa follwing for Sony, a couple years ago it was a WAY different story.

Zaggeron · 11-03-2011, 05:50 PM

Like I mentioned, I have both. But I too use the PS3 mostly for Netflix and Blu-ray movies with the occasional PS3 exclusive title. For titles that come out on both consoles I almost always get the xbox version -- the graphics are typically indistinguishable, better multiplayer integration (especially chat), and (personal choice) I like the xbox controller better.

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Zaggeron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,951 Drives: '10 370ZR '13 BRZ Rep Power: 18	I can see how the number of disks might matter for RPGs with 4 or 5 disks or something, but something like Forza with a game disk and data disk? Actually number of disks isn't important, it is how fast you can load that data onto the hard drive. For faster load times most PS3 and Xbox360 games require the games be installed to the HD (the last Drake's for the PS3 and a Halo one or two releases back were exceptions in that they were very efficient at seamlessly steaming in the data needed). In loading to the HD, the 360 is much faster. E.g., you can actually load both Forza game disks onto your hard drive in the time it takes to load the data from one PS3 disk onto its HD (for example it takes ages to install GT5). __________________ 2010 Platinum Graphite 370z Roadster:Touring/Sport 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited

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Zaggeron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,951 Drives: '10 370ZR '13 BRZ Rep Power: 18	Like I mentioned, I have both. But I too use the PS3 mostly for Netflix and Blu-ray movies with the occasional PS3 exclusive title. For titles that come out on both consoles I almost always get the xbox version -- the graphics are typically indistinguishable, better multiplayer integration (especially chat), and (personal choice) I like the xbox controller better. __________________ 2010 Platinum Graphite 370z Roadster:Touring/Sport 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited

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Spikuh A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Ark Posts: 2,357 Drives: '09 370z Rep Power: 21	^^ As long as they can continue pushing out better graphics on the consoles, I'm ok with it. However, I am afraid developers are going to cap out what can be done on both the PS3 and 360 soon. Only time will tell I guess.

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Spikuh A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Ark Posts: 2,357 Drives: '09 370z Rep Power: 21	^^You have to finish the thought first. :P

11-03-2011, 05:42 PM	#44 (permalink)
hide187 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 186 Drives: 09 370 MB Sport Rep Power: 47	I am an avid console gamer, it keeps me outta trouble. I could care less about micro$oft charging for Xbox Live. Its far superior to psn in many ways (speed, movie and game content, security!). 5$ a month is hardly a deal breaker. Ive only owned 4 ps3 games and prolly 50 xbox games. Playstations online chat ruined all gaming chances and thus renamed my ps3 the blu ray player. I am a little shocked to see lotsa follwing for Sony, a couple years ago it was a WAY different story.