Post on Drunk driving

EazyD · 09-15-2011, 10:02 PM

What time did Sean Connery arrive at Wimbledon? Tennish.

UTAMAV · 09-15-2011, 10:06 PM

With all that's been said....my .02 is that the OP has some major diplomatic

. Kudos to you sir for admitting a mistake in judgment and apologizing for it. I don't know who does it better you or Tony Romo, Oui!

Zaggeron · 09-15-2011, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by UTAMAV

With all that's been said....my .02 is that the OP has some major diplomatic

. Kudos to you sir for admitting a mistake in judgment and apologizing for it. I don't know who does it better you or Tony Romo, Oui!

He was pounded into submission by righteous indignation

Pelican170 · 09-16-2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jjaden

This brings to mind a whole other argument.

There was a recent study that consisted of a control group of individuals drink 6 beers in 30min. then drive an obstacle course with pylons.

A second control group involved people on cell phones, required to maintain conversation and answer questions while on the phone taking the same course.

The people on the phones performed MUCH worse....

You won't do jail time if you hit someone while on your cell, because it's socially acceptable even if it's illegal in some states but it's proven to be much more dangerous.

6 drink in 30 minutes will get you hammered! lol

RiCharlie · 09-16-2011, 11:16 AM

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He was pounded into submission by righteous indignation

No i wasnt.. i realized I did something that offended others and I owned up to it,.,nobody "pounded me into submission" Tex, old padna

Zaggeron · 09-16-2011, 11:26 AM

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No i wasnt.. i realized I did something that offended others and I owned up to it,.,nobody "pounded me into submission" Tex, old padna

You did something that nobody could reasonably be expected to find offensive -- the joke was as corny as an old Jonny Carson joke. There was nothing for you to "own up to". A "Sorry I offended you" is appropriate, but you more or less admitted to doing something wrong and inappropriate which you did not.

Just because someone if offended by something we write or say, doesn't mean it was wrong to say it. Maybe you don't even realize it but you were bullied into erroneously admitting you did something wrong.

shadoquad · 09-16-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

You did something that nobody could reasonably be expected to find offensive -- the joke was as corny as an old Jonny Carson joke. There was nothing for you to "own up to". A "Sorry I offended you" is appropriate, but you more or less admitted to doing something wrong and inappropriate which you did not.

Just because someone if offended by something we write or say, doesn't mean it was wrong to say it. Maybe you don't even realize it but you were bullied into erroneously admitting you did something wrong.

So, drunk driving jokes are not offensive to any reasonable person? I'm glad you're the expert on what we can and can't find funny.

shadoquad · 09-16-2011, 11:34 AM

Maybe he was bullied, or maybe he realized that he offended some folks.

I've offended people with humor. I'm usually enough of a man to apologize when I do.

Zaggeron · 09-16-2011, 11:35 AM

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So, drunk driving jokes are not offensive to any reasonable person? I'm glad you're the expert on what we can and can't find funny.

I'm sure that many drunk driving jokes are offensive in general, but RiCharlie's one wasn't. You can't always just place something in a category and say -- everything in this category is offensive -- no exceptions. There are degrees to which jokes can be said to be offensive and this one was more or less as mild as they come.

shadoquad · 09-16-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

I'm sure that many drunk driving jokes are offensive in general, but RiCharlie's one wasn't. You can't always just place something in a category and say -- everything in this category is offensive -- no exceptions. There are degrees to which jokes can be said to be offensive and this one was more or less as mild as they come.

ok, so as long as I post a "mild" racist joke, the target ethnicity won't find it offensive. ok, roger, got it.

Zaggeron · 09-16-2011, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Maybe he was bullied, or maybe he realized that he offended some folks.

I've offended people with humor. I'm usually enough of a man to apologize when I do.

I did mention that an apology is appropriate. You can be sorry about someone's hurt feelings whether their attitude towards what you said is justified or not. But, this doesn't mean you necessarily admit that what you did was wrong or even, in fact, that you would take it back.

edub370 · 09-16-2011, 11:39 AM

i would like to chime in for a second and take a vote of all those who dont give a sh*t about who is to blame/ why someone apologized/ or just genereally that this thread is surviving based on us arguing like children... all in favor of this vote say "yay". all opposed....

my $0.02

shadoquad · 09-16-2011, 11:42 AM

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I did mention that an apology is appropriate. You can be sorry about someone's hurt feelings whether their attitude towards what you said is justified or not. But, this doesn't mean you necessarily admit that what you did was wrong or even, in fact, that you would take it back.

But the option to do so is completely his decision. And just because he decided to handle it that way doesn't mean he was bullied.

Zaggeron · 09-16-2011, 11:44 AM

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ok, so as long as I post a "mild" racist joke, the target ethnicity won't find it offensive. ok, roger, got it.

racist jokes are against forum rules I believe, so no, that would not be appropriate. And anyway it is a false analogy. A joke about stumbling and banging you elbow might not be offensive, but a joke about falling off a cliff and being impaled might be, but they are both about falling.

Anyway, I agree. Dead horse. The OP did what he believed was right and that's likely good enough.

Zaggeron · 09-16-2011, 11:46 AM

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But the option to do so is completely his decision. And just because he decided to handle it that way doesn't mean he was bullied.

No. It was conjecture on my part that he apologized because he was bullied. He was bullied. The two threads are proof of that, but you are right that it doesn't mean he apologized for that reason.

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shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3886	Maybe he was bullied, or maybe he realized that he offended some folks. I've offended people with humor. I'm usually enough of a man to apologize when I do.