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Originally Posted by Jjaden This might be true but it depends on your goals. If you want to get huge and bulk up just eat tons of food, lift very

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Old 05-25-2011, 05:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This might be true but it depends on your goals. If you want to get huge and bulk up just eat tons of food, lift very heavy weights 3-4 times a week and use some steroids. It's a pretty simple formula.

Your cardio will also suck, your athleticism will be crappy, and your strength will not be functional. I am not ripping on you, because to be honest you look very muscular and in good shape, but most of the big guys at the gym who do their best to get huge and are always panting and out of breath after every set in the gym.

I compete in MMA and I used to weight train bodybuilding style. Bodybuilding it's 'pretty boy' muscle, which means it looks nice but is useless when competing in a lot of sports. I can't tell you how many guys who have tons of muscle on me, I can submit in under a minute because they gass out so fast.

P90x not that unsimilar to how many MMA athletes train with short explosive circuits and active recovery between sets. It is the BEST way to increase overall health, but you are right, it will never make you get huge and muscular, which I don't think it the goal of P90x, but may be misleading because all of their Male models on TV are juiced up fitness competitors who do a lot of bodybuilding training on the side.

You can expect THIS type of physique from a P90X/MMA routine, which I think is much more functional, much faster, and much more practical. But again it all depends on your goals, your diet, and your dedication.
I suppose if you skip any cardio altogether you'll wind up getting gassed pretty quick. I lifted heavy and ate a lot (proper nutrition) and wasn't bulky or slow. Of course I did a fair amount of cardio as well. Of course I didn't do any steroids so I can't really speak to that.

P90x is not a program to get big and bulky. It's a program to cut fat and get fit. IMO it's an excellent (albiet overpriced) program. Most people just need that kind of motivation to achieve those results though.

As far as submitting guys that are bigger and stronger, well... I have 2+ years of intense Krav Maga and Jui Jitsu training as well as a fair amount of Philipino martial arts and IMO there's trained and untrained. That's more of a determining factor for being able to "submit" someone than what body type they are. But one thing is certain. Fight training is a completely different type of conditioning. On the other hand, I wouldn't neccissarily say that bodybuilding is "pretty boy" muscle unless all you do is sit around all day without any cardio and put junk/juice into your body.

On a whole, "bodybuilding" on a professional level isn't about "health" at all. But proper bodybuilding is and strength training absolutely has it's place for ALL sports. MMA included.

Me... with heavy lifting combined with cardio and fight training...
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I did it for 4 weeks, but I found out that I was just getting weaker and loosing muscle, I guess it's good for somebody that doesn't exercise regularly. now some people are going to say that I was not doing it right and my diet was not set up properly, but all I have to say is that I've been working out for 13 years and I wanted to mix it up with p90x, so I dropped my weight training and got on the p90x program and I just felt like crap everyday, I was loosing fat, but I was also loosing muscle. pretty much every workout program you do will work if your diet is on point and that's all there is to it, it's all about calories in vs calories out, meaning in order to loose weight you have to burn more calories than you take in. anyways after doing p90x for 4 weeks and not getting the results that I wanted, I got off of it and got back into my regular workout routine and right now I'm where I want to be as far as fitness goes, here is a picture of me now, with p90x you'll never get this big, I don't mean to sound cocky, but that's just my experience with p90x
The body builder look isn't for everyone. The P90X is about being lean and ripped, Jaden's picture is a perfect example of what the results should look like if you do it right. Given that you already had a very large muscle mass to maintain you probably weren't taking in enough calories and protein to maintain that mass while on P90X. I'm guessing you would have needed close to 5000 calories if you wanted to maintain the bulk.
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P90x I would say is mostly cardio, ya you get sore nut you won't be gaining muscle from it. If you want to loose fat and gain muscle just get a good weight lifting program going instead as weight lifting will speed your metabolism up for a longer amount of time than cardio as long as your doing it intensly. As far as the supplements go (saw a few people mention it) I would say stay off that crap you can easily get the same results and better without any of that in your body.
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P90x I would say is mostly cardio, ya you get sore nut you won't be gaining muscle from it. If you want to loose fat and gain muscle just get a good weight lifting program going instead as weight lifting will speed your metabolism up for a longer amount of time than cardio as long as your doing it intensly. As far as the supplements go (saw a few people mention it) I would say stay off that crap you can easily get the same results and better without any of that in your body.
about supplements go, food is the best supplement there is, but something funny I read on bodybuilding forums is that some people are taking test while on p90x.
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about supplements go, food is the best supplement there is, but something funny I read on bodybuilding forums is that some people are taking test while on p90x.
I suspect this is because their diet is not adequate, and they are not taking enough protein, so they are using test to make sure they can maintain muscle while losing weight.
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Pitz I'll bench press you!! J/k I do want to get bulkier. I'm getting married in Oct. And I just wanted to look good on the beach. But now I want to get bigger especially my glamour muscles. But I want to stay healthy like it was said earlier I can lift and do everyday stuff with ease now after p90 and I want to continue that. I work in the oil field so trust me when I say ease I mean ease
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I did p90x, completed it once. Here's my results.
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Currently going through the program a second time with the goal of getting ripped.
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Man I thought i was in shape. Defenantly need to work harder!!!
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Use thermognics like oxyelite pro and a preworkout like jack3d and a good whey protein with the nutrition system and you'll be good.
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I too, similar to Pitz, was losing muscle.


Long story short, in my opinion, P90x is only good for those needing to lose weight. Not those trying to gain muscle mass
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^ exactly. And even for people like me the full result of P90x isn't really what I need for playing soccer and basketball. I'm not looking for the absolutely 'ripped' look, but after I did about half the program, then adjusted my training, I'm maintaining enough muscle to bully around larger people in the post, while still maintaining enough speed to burn people out on the soccer pitch.
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^ exactly. And even for people like me the full result of P90x isn't really what I need for playing soccer and basketball. I'm not looking for the absolutely 'ripped' look, but after I did about half the program, then adjusted my training, I'm maintaining enough muscle to bully around larger people in the post, while still maintaining enough speed to burn people out on the soccer pitch.
Yep, it's easy to customize which is nice. I've never been overweight and I wasn't trying to lose weight, just increase definition so I more or less ignored the food plan and just did my own thing making sure that I was getting enough protein.
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^ while still maintaining enough speed to burn people out on the soccer pitch.
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Yeah, I really should go back and work on definition though. Someone at the gym the other day was asking me how I got a LOT stronger in the post, and I said 'I did a little of the P90x program'. They just said '...really?'

Yeah...expectations are pretty high on P90x completionists haha

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