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370zFORme!! 03-03-2011 08:54 PM

Ipad 2 worth the hype? Whose getting one?
 
What do you guys think of the new Ipad? Anyone gonna go stand in line? Im gonna try to buy 5 or 6 to slang on ebay for an exorbitant amount of money. :stirthepot:

wilsonp 03-03-2011 11:30 PM

Doesn't seem like enough to upgrade for, but I am thinking about getting one for me and handing mine down instead of buying a refurb or used for $580, just $800 for a new one so $220 more and I get a new one, and everyone else gets an upgrade, or if I get a 16GB WiFi save another $100 (but complicate everything).

MC 03-03-2011 11:31 PM

havent really bought into the idea of a tablet yet... its a big smart phone that cant make calls... everyone has different needs but i have a desktop a droidX and a laptop....so for me it doesnt fit... i guess if i didnt have a laptop or was on the go maybe it would make more sense...but for my lifestlye its a waste

and even if i did wouldnt be apple... 6 -8 months from now the ipad3 will be out and make you feel like you just bought a piece of ****..... then the ipad4 will do the same... and it doesnt run flash right?

i just feel apple gets you in this never ending buying cycle

daisuke149 03-03-2011 11:40 PM

i would love to get one. my company offers me any ipad at 250$ off retail.

but ive been spending money on the car.

I dont care that its a apple, etc etc. I just fly out of town and back in every week. A tablet is perfect for airplanes.

my 17.3" laptop is good big, the iphone too small. Ipad = perfect and I have top gear for Itunes already!

I would need the 64gb version. i was hoping they would have sdcard in this ipad 2.

Also rumors are that ipad 3 later this year (end) if people can wait.

djpathfinder 03-03-2011 11:56 PM

I'll wait for iPad3...not enough improvements with iPad2 to warrant a jump. Besides, I have a MacPro, MacBookPro and iPhone 3Gs already. Don't have any use for an iPad at this time, other than for playing.

southercadesi 03-04-2011 12:05 AM

I think the tablet is great for some. I can definitely see myself buying one in a few years, but just don't have the necessity for it right now. I heard the iPad 3 will have the retina display, which the iPad 2 does not offer.

EazyD 03-04-2011 12:09 AM

My iPad 1 is awesome. It's so light and perfect for this forum hehe. I'm using it right Now. For you droid users, you can tell your phone to act as a 3G Wi-Fi hotspot for the tablet to connect to and get internet anywhere (or pay $15-25/month for iPad 3G access).

The new iPad is cool, but not crazy enough to get me to upgrade.

The reliability and UI of this is way better than Android OS and the quality of applications is unmatched.

texasviking 03-04-2011 08:35 AM

I'll be in line, just like I was for the iPhone4, iPad1, iPhone 3GS, and iPhone 3G (I was 2 days late to the party on the iPhone 2G).

A) I'm a sucker for shiny new toys
B) Having facetime/skype on the iPad is going to rock (I have family in Europe that I don't see very often [1/year])
C) The misses wants mine, so it gives me an excuse to upgrade :)

m4a1mustang 03-04-2011 08:37 AM

I have a 32 GB wifi iPad that I use around the house for web surfing... that's really it. So I don't know if it will be worth it to upgrade.

Blue370tt 03-04-2011 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by EazyD (Post 968715)
My iPad 1 is awesome. It's so light and perfect for this forum hehe. I'm using it right Now. For you droid users, you can tell your phone to act as a 3G Wi-Fi hotspot for the tablet to connect to and get internet anywhere (or pay $15-25/month for iPad 3G access).

The new iPad is cool, but not crazy enough to get me to upgrade.

The reliability and UI of this is way better than Android OS and the quality of applications is unmatched.

Motorola Xoom and Android 3.0 Honeycomb blow the Itrash2 away. Clearly this person is a fanboy......and.....THE APPLICATIONS BETWEEN ANDROID AND APPLE ARE IDENTICAL AND MADE BY THE SAME DEVELOPERS.......only difeerence is the UI.

daisuke149 03-04-2011 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 969160)
Motorola Xoom and Android 3.0 Honeycomb blow the Itrash2 away. Clearly this person is a fanboy......and.....THE APPLICATIONS BETWEEN ANDROID AND APPLE ARE IDENTICAL AND MADE BY THE SAME DEVELOPERS.......only difeerence is the UI.

they dont blow the ipad away.

Ive been telling fanboys of both sides that they are built for different markets.

Apple products are very good for people who dont really have a clue about tech / software and just want a smooth functioning, no hassle product with everything integrated so they dont have to go anywhere.

Android stuff these days is still being purchased more by the techies, the tinkerers etc.

Thats a result of apple locking down their OS/UI and keeping developers in check.

Android yes is definitely more open, and while SOME of the apps are developed the same, you have alot of bad apps to filter through on the andriod as there is no real checks on them.

Also android market is not a good market for developer who want to make money. many of them have complained that android users simply dont like to pay for apps. Thus again leading to the type of buyer (techies, tinkerers etc)

theDreamer 03-04-2011 09:32 AM

For anyone who owns the first gen it really is not a huge upgrade. Only reason I am buying the new one is because I am a tech geek and a co-worker is buying my first gen which will help cover some of the costs of the purchase.

Lug 03-04-2011 10:35 AM

This is how to up the usefulness of the ipod by 50%...

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:D

Liquid_G 03-04-2011 10:46 AM

^^ they already have that.. Its called a laptop.

Lug 03-04-2011 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquid_G (Post 969384)
^^ they already have that.. Its called a laptop.

Apple called....expect a lawsuit! :mad:






.....alternate answer......





I said it was 50% more useful!

SoCal 370Z 03-04-2011 11:54 AM

The iPad is great for social media and snippet reading, but as reader it falls drastically short of any reader that uses E ink. Having owned far too many Apple products for far too many years, I can say that I will wait for the next generation or the generation after that to purchase another iPad. I do like the Android driven tablets, and will likely purchase a second-generation Xoom or an equivalent from another brand.

For me, nothing replaces a higher-end laptop...yet.

370zFORme!! 03-04-2011 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC (Post 968641)
havent really bought into the idea of a tablet yet... its a big smart phone that cant make calls... everyone has different needs but i have a desktop a droidX and a laptop....so for me it doesnt fit... i guess if i didnt have a laptop or was on the go maybe it would make more sense...but for my lifestlye its a waste

and even if i did wouldnt be apple... 6 -8 months from now the ipad3 will be out and make you feel like you just bought a piece of ****..... then the ipad4 will do the same... and it doesnt run flash right?

i just feel apple gets you in this never ending buying cycle

Actually you can make calls with it on skype, better yet you can make video calls with it. There are also jailbroken apps that can make calls for free. But ya im assuming no flash again which imo is a huge fail!! The thing I hate about Apple is the whole yearly refresh thing. Always makes you think your products are obsolete just a year after you bought the latest and greatest. Like with retina display.. Why doesnt the new ipad have it? Because then they wouldnt have anything to release the Ipad3 with!

370zFORme!! 03-04-2011 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquid_G (Post 969384)
^^ they already have that.. Its called a laptop.

:bowrofl:

theDreamer 03-04-2011 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC (Post 968641)
havent really bought into the idea of a tablet yet... its a big smart phone that cant make calls... everyone has different needs but i have a desktop a droidX and a laptop....so for me it doesnt fit... i guess if i didnt have a laptop or was on the go maybe it would make more sense...but for my lifestlye its a waste

and even if i did wouldnt be apple... 6 -8 months from now the ipad3 will be out and make you feel like you just bought a piece of ****..... then the ipad4 will do the same... and it doesnt run flash right?

i just feel apple gets you in this never ending buying cycle

Apple does 1 year cycles, it can be annoying but all companies do it. Dell, HP, Nissan, Medical drugs, etc.
Apple has just made it become very 'flashy' in how they get up on a stage and do it, while others just release a product and let it speak for itself.

The flash argument is fair, but I visit all the same websites I do on my laptop/desktop as I do on my iPad and have no issues. Most places are now building websites to be viewed on iPad, mobile devices (android/iOS), desktop/laptop, etc. Companies have learned there is more than one way to view a website.

SoCal 370Z 03-04-2011 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 969724)
Apple has just made it become very 'flashy' in how they get up on a stage and do it, while others just release a product and let it speak for itself.

Although I have the utmost respect for Jobs, even more for the WAZ, I've grown tired of the keynote speeches, the whiz-bang, and the hype. What Apple—not just Jobs as it takes an army of employees to do what Apple accomplishes—does well is to gather technologies into the most user friendly products with styling overlaid.

Cmike2780 03-04-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z (Post 969529)
The iPad is great for social media and snippet reading, but as reader it falls drastically short of any reader that uses E ink. Having owned far too many Apple products for far too many years, I can say that I will wait for the next generation or the generation after that to purchase another iPad. I do like the Android driven tablets, and will likely purchase a second-generation Xoom or an equivalent from another brand.

For me, nothing replaces a higher-end laptop...yet.

Ya know, I didn't really expect to like it or buy into the hype, but I'm using this thing more than my MacBook Pro or Desktop PC combined. I had a Kindle and the e-ink is ok and great when reading outside, but I like having a color and backlit screen even more. It can also do soo much more than an e-reader. Don't get me wrong, it has its limitations. Its just so easy and quick to use for a lot of small task I do from day to day like e-mail or browse the web.

I don't know if an upgrades to the iPad 2 is enough to justify buying. My iPad 1st gen iPad still works great, so no upgrade for me. I'll wait till it breaks. I still have a 2nd gen iPod Touch that's still going strong. Why spend money when you don't have to.

SoCal 370Z 03-04-2011 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 969773)
I had a Kindle and the e-ink is ok and great when reading outside, but I like having a color and backlit screen even more. It can also do soo much more than an e-reader.

Plays havoc with my eyes, but I'm sure it's a personal issue. Reading any long document is best with E ink for me.

Cmike2780 03-04-2011 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z (Post 969813)
Plays havoc with my eyes, but I'm sure it's a personal issue. Reading any long document is best with E ink for me.

I agree, it is harder on the eyes, but not much more than looking at a computer monitor. If the Kindle had color e-ink and faster refresh rates, it would be a clear winner for e-reading. Turning the page on the current one is about as sophisticated as an etch-a-sketch. I still buy "real" books for this reason alone.

HKYStormFront 03-04-2011 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC (Post 968641)
and even if i did wouldnt be apple... 6 -8 months from now the ipad3 will be out and make you feel like you just bought a piece of ****..... then the ipad4 will do the same... and it doesnt run flash right?

i just feel apple gets you in this never ending buying cycle

that's on purpose. people drinking the Apple cool-aid feel almost obligated to get the newest hardware because Steve comes out and says "hey, you! you need this!!". tablet? i don't really have much use for one. i can see where business professionals could use it (i considered getting my CPA cousin one for christmas since i drew her name, till i found out how much they are). now, the Xoom tablet? maybe eventually, i wouldn't mind having one. i just don't see myself using it often. if i started doing more photography and had meetings with clients, it might be cool to have a tablet to look at photo's but i could just use my laptop for that right? to me, the tablet seems like the ultimate tool for people who are professional assistants to corporate big wigs that normally carry around a calculater clipboard to write on and have their blackberry within an arms length at all times. seems like it'd make their life more simple but that's about as far as it goes.

Cmike2780 03-04-2011 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKYStormFront (Post 969889)
that's on purpose. people drinking the Apple cool-aid feel almost obligated to get the newest hardware because Steve comes out and says "hey, you! you need this!!". tablet? i don't really have much use for one. i can see where business professionals could use it (i considered getting my CPA cousin one for christmas since i drew her name, till i found out how much they are). now, the Xoom tablet? maybe eventually, i wouldn't mind having one. i just don't see myself using it often. if i started doing more photography and had meetings with clients, it might be cool to have a tablet to look at photo's but i could just use my laptop for that right? to me, the tablet seems like the ultimate tool for people who are professional assistants to corporate big wigs that normally carry around a calculater clipboard to write on and have their blackberry within an arms length at all times. seems like it'd make their life more simple but that's about as far as it goes.

I don't know about you, but this would be great if you could easily tether this to an D-SLR.

It was never meant to replace a laptop anyways. That's why previous tablets failed so miserably. Tablet PC's were cumbersome to work with and the interface left little to be desired.

I don't bag on Apple products for the simple reason that they are usually designed well and work most of the time. Every electronics manufacturer has a new or revised product every year. The media rarely shines light or cares about it though unless it could rival an Apple product. Like it or not, we are all drinking the capitalist cool-aid one way or another. It could be a new iPad or a new camera perhaps ;) :tup:

daisuke149 03-04-2011 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKYStormFront (Post 969889)
that's on purpose. people drinking the Apple cool-aid feel almost obligated to get the newest hardware because Steve comes out and says "hey, you! you need this!!". tablet? i don't really have much use for one. i can see where business professionals could use it (i considered getting my CPA cousin one for christmas since i drew her name, till i found out how much they are). now, the Xoom tablet? maybe eventually, i wouldn't mind having one. i just don't see myself using it often. if i started doing more photography and had meetings with clients, it might be cool to have a tablet to look at photo's but i could just use my laptop for that right? to me, the tablet seems like the ultimate tool for people who are professional assistants to corporate big wigs that normally carry around a calculater clipboard to write on and have their blackberry within an arms length at all times. seems like it'd make their life more simple but that's about as far as it goes.

i really dont think its meant for business users. Ive never seen one used for business as of yet. Everyone uses crummy laptops and thats mostly because the laptops are maintainable/secure/customizable to each company etc.

The Ipad is a entertainment / convenience device.

Like for me, while watching NFL on sundays, instead of having a bulky laptop or sitting at the desk, i could use the ipad to watch my fantasy teams.

On the airplane where a iphone screen is too small and laptop is too big, i could watch tv shows, movies and especially top gear.

When I travelled to China, I took my laptop, and it was a pain to carry everywhere. If i had an ipad that would have been great to use e-mail, chat with people back home.

When i go use the the bathroom (throne), i sure as heck wouldnt want to carry a laptop in there with me. I'd use the IPAD!

that being said, i havnt gotten one yet cus i find my money going towards my car and stuff : / but that also means its not a Necessity by any means and I dont think anyone who buys one thinks that. if they did, i think they would be a bit of their rockers.

HKYStormFront 03-04-2011 03:42 PM

all valid points, that's just my view on it :tup:

daisuke149 03-04-2011 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKYStormFront (Post 969985)
all valid points, that's just my view on it :tup:

definitely valid i think. I mean im responding to you right now on my iphone.. cus i wont take my laptop into the bathroom. Enjoy that thought! haha

but one thing I will say (agree)

whoever manages to capture the business and education side of this first should do well.

Originally i said apple should go very hard after all education book publishers to release ipad version of their books.

Kids wouldnt have to carry 60lb's every day. They wouldnt forget their book. They could take notes directly onto the books "page". with internal wi-fi or bluetooth antenna's per class rooms professors could disable itunes, browser, games etc and also disable books for tests or disable notes for open book tests.. or only show notes for no book tests!

plus, publishers could make the books slightly cheaper as digital as it would save them printing costs and it would be available to more students as it wouldnt be as expensive.

not just talking about highschool, or middle school but college. Only a few colleges have handed out ipads to new students.

Sigh if Apple went aggresively after this their profits woulda been so much higher.

For business though Blackberry may have an edge with their enterprise software. Their phones are already successfull for this and they could translate that into secure tablets. Unfortunately, the playbook seems pretty dull.

HKYStormFront 03-04-2011 04:07 PM

yea i agree with the education side of it, i don't know that i'd limit it to just ipads. hardware wise, the Motorola Xoom trumps the ipad2 by a loonnngggg shot.

daisuke149 03-04-2011 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKYStormFront (Post 970027)
yea i agree with the education side of it, i don't know that i'd limit it to just ipads. hardware wise, the Motorola Xoom trumps the ipad2 by a loonnngggg shot.

I havnt had any trust in a motorola product in a while though. I work with people who work or have worked at motorola on these projects. Hrmm.. cant say what they say.

hardware wise other products have normally trumped apple products. but their os / ui makes the apples normally better!

oh and definitely limited education to ipads would be bad, but im saying if apple went after it first they would have had the market first.

Blue370tt 03-04-2011 05:21 PM

Apple Haters Take Note: Conan O’Brien Just Eviscerated The iPad 2


Looks Like Google Is Starting To Listen – Hundreds Of Pirated Books/Apps Deleted From Android Market Minutes After Report


Only 0.3% Of The Global Population Owns A Tablet – But There Are Over 5 Billion Mobile Subscribers

RBC Predicts That Android Will Dominate The Tablet Market By 2014

Cmike2780 03-04-2011 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 970150)
Apple Haters Take Note: Conan O’Brien Just Eviscerated The iPad 2


Looks Like Google Is Starting To Listen – Hundreds Of Pirated Books/Apps Deleted From Android Market Minutes After Report


Only 0.3% Of The Global Population Owns A Tablet – But There Are Over 5 Billion Mobile Subscribers

RBC Predicts That Android Will Dominate The Tablet Market By 2014

0.3% is like 20.4 Million people. That's significant considering Apple has sold over 15 million iPads to date. It doesn't matter if you love or hate Apple products, you gotta respect their marketing strategy. The Andriod is a good platform, but it has its quirks. I have a Motorola Droid 2 and the interface isn't as fluid as the iPhone OS IMO.

Blue370tt 03-04-2011 06:54 PM

My mom has an Iphone and cant even figure out how to use a computer.

That alone tells me quite a bit about why I DONT WANT OR NEED ANY APPLE PRODUCTS.

wilsonp 03-04-2011 11:25 PM

A lot of these comments make me wonder why you own a 370Z instead of a horse.

By the way, Nissan comes out with a new model Z every year, why aren't you buying it instead of riding around in last year's junk that doesn't even have a compass?

The iPad is an in-between device, like my boss said, it is second best at a lot of things - but having the second best web browser, the second best eBook reader, the second best GPS, the second best spreadsheet editor, photo viewer, game player with you is pretty convenient.

And don't fool yourself, it is going to be a heavy business device. We have physician using them for medical records access, radilogy imaging access and dictation. We have employees using them for remote desktop control, accessing corporate systems. We have them syncing to corporate email. The Xoom will need another version to catch up with the iPad 1. And a lot more developer action. Right now e Xoom doesn't do flash and it's SD card slot doesn't work, so I don't think it is an iPad beater.

More importantly, like a recent TUAW story, if you are picking your tablet based on specs, you're doing it wrong. Otherwise you'd be driving a STi or GTI or Mustang 5.0, Corvette or Cayman, depending on which specs you like - the 370Z is like an iPad - second best at a lot of things, and that makes it a winner.

daisuke149 03-04-2011 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 970150)
Apple Haters Take Note: Conan O’Brien Just Eviscerated The iPad 2


Looks Like Google Is Starting To Listen – Hundreds Of Pirated Books/Apps Deleted From Android Market Minutes After Report


Only 0.3% Of The Global Population Owns A Tablet – But There Are Over 5 Billion Mobile Subscribers

RBC Predicts That Android Will Dominate The Tablet Market By 2014

im glad people try to compare sales numbers for a OS found in 10+ tablets vs a piece of hardware made by one company.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 970300)
My mom has an Iphone and cant even figure out how to use a computer.

That alone tells me quite a bit about why I DONT WANT OR NEED ANY APPLE PRODUCTS.

So your saying that because apple makes a product that is good and intuitive to human thought patterns you would rather have something that is a harder to use?

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilsonp (Post 970573)
A lot of these comments make me wonder why you own a 370Z instead of a horse.

By the way, Nissan comes out with a new model Z every year, why aren't you buying it instead of riding around in last year's junk that doesn't even have a compass?

The iPad is an in-between device, like my boss said, it is second best at a lot of things - but having the second best web browser, the second best eBook reader, the second best GPS, the second best spreadsheet editor, photo viewer, game player with you is pretty convenient.

And don't fool yourself, it is going to be a heavy business device. We have physician using them for medical records access, radilogy imaging access and dictation. We have employees using them for remote desktop control, accessing corporate systems. We have them syncing to corporate email. The Xoom will need another version to catch up with the iPad 1. And a lot more developer action. Right now e Xoom doesn't do flash and it's SD card slot doesn't work, so I don't think it is an iPad beater.

More importantly, like a recent TUAW story, if you are picking your tablet based on specs, you're doing it wrong. Otherwise you'd be driving a STi or GTI or Mustang 5.0, Corvette or Cayman, depending on which specs you like - the 370Z is like an iPad - second best at a lot of things, and that makes it a winner.

Agreed it is capable of all those things you mentioned in business but the % using it for that is probably EXTREMELY low. But it does have that potential where as the android tablets dont. by apple controlling the quality, ui, changes etc very closely its easy to develop for in terms of you dont have to worry about it working on 20 different models, or a future OS release.

370zFORme!! 03-04-2011 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilsonp (Post 970573)
A lot of these comments make me wonder why you own a 370Z instead of a horse.

By the way, Nissan comes out with a new model Z every year, why aren't you buying it instead of riding around in last year's junk that doesn't even have a compass?

The iPad is an in-between device, like my boss said, it is second best at a lot of things - but having the second best web browser, the second best eBook reader, the second best GPS, the second best spreadsheet editor, photo viewer, game player with you is pretty convenient.

And don't fool yourself, it is going to be a heavy business device. We have physician using them for medical records access, radilogy imaging access and dictation. We have employees using them for remote desktop control, accessing corporate systems. We have them syncing to corporate email. The Xoom will need another version to catch up with the iPad 1. And a lot more developer action. Right now e Xoom doesn't do flash and it's SD card slot doesn't work, so I don't think it is an iPad beater.

More importantly, like a recent TUAW story, if you are picking your tablet based on specs, you're doing it wrong. Otherwise you'd be driving a STi or GTI or Mustang 5.0, Corvette or Cayman, depending on which specs you like - the 370Z is like an iPad - second best at a lot of things, and that makes it a winner.

^This

370zFORme!! 03-04-2011 11:50 PM

I think the voting speaks for itself, the majority of people here dont care, maybe that will mean shorter lines on launch day :)

theDreamer 03-05-2011 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zFORme!! (Post 970609)
I think the voting speaks for itself, the majority of people here dont care, maybe that will mean shorter lines on launch day :)

Not going to happen, recent surveys show that iPad 1 second hand sales have jumped dramatically since the announcement of iPad 2. Meaning a lot of people are going to be getting the new one and then you add in the many you always wake for gen 2 from Apple.

EazyD 03-05-2011 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 969160)
Motorola Xoom and Android 3.0 Honeycomb blow the Itrash2 away. Clearly this person is a fanboy......and.....THE APPLICATIONS BETWEEN ANDROID AND APPLE ARE IDENTICAL AND MADE BY THE SAME DEVELOPERS.......only difeerence is the UI.

Hey, relax, man. I'm no fanboy, I've used both types.
I used to have an iPhone 3G and instead of getting the iPhone 4, I got the Samsung Captivate (Galaxy S) and was excited about all the extra things I am able to do with Android OS. I rooted, turned it into 3G wifi hotspot, etc etc. And then.... the tinkering got old and I just want my damn phone to just "work".. I don't want to have to root... and the apps suck. Yes, large developer companies have ported their games to lots of OSes, but for the most part, the apps are nasty and full of bugs and crap - and they LOOK like crap - there are no standards to follow.

2cents.

PapoZalsa 03-05-2011 10:18 PM

WOW, to many geeks in this thread!!! :stirthepot:


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