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Blue370tt 03-04-2011 05:21 PM

Apple Haters Take Note: Conan O’Brien Just Eviscerated The iPad 2


Looks Like Google Is Starting To Listen – Hundreds Of Pirated Books/Apps Deleted From Android Market Minutes After Report


Only 0.3% Of The Global Population Owns A Tablet – But There Are Over 5 Billion Mobile Subscribers

RBC Predicts That Android Will Dominate The Tablet Market By 2014

Cmike2780 03-04-2011 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 970150)
Apple Haters Take Note: Conan O’Brien Just Eviscerated The iPad 2


Looks Like Google Is Starting To Listen – Hundreds Of Pirated Books/Apps Deleted From Android Market Minutes After Report


Only 0.3% Of The Global Population Owns A Tablet – But There Are Over 5 Billion Mobile Subscribers

RBC Predicts That Android Will Dominate The Tablet Market By 2014

0.3% is like 20.4 Million people. That's significant considering Apple has sold over 15 million iPads to date. It doesn't matter if you love or hate Apple products, you gotta respect their marketing strategy. The Andriod is a good platform, but it has its quirks. I have a Motorola Droid 2 and the interface isn't as fluid as the iPhone OS IMO.

Blue370tt 03-04-2011 06:54 PM

My mom has an Iphone and cant even figure out how to use a computer.

That alone tells me quite a bit about why I DONT WANT OR NEED ANY APPLE PRODUCTS.

wilsonp 03-04-2011 11:25 PM

A lot of these comments make me wonder why you own a 370Z instead of a horse.

By the way, Nissan comes out with a new model Z every year, why aren't you buying it instead of riding around in last year's junk that doesn't even have a compass?

The iPad is an in-between device, like my boss said, it is second best at a lot of things - but having the second best web browser, the second best eBook reader, the second best GPS, the second best spreadsheet editor, photo viewer, game player with you is pretty convenient.

And don't fool yourself, it is going to be a heavy business device. We have physician using them for medical records access, radilogy imaging access and dictation. We have employees using them for remote desktop control, accessing corporate systems. We have them syncing to corporate email. The Xoom will need another version to catch up with the iPad 1. And a lot more developer action. Right now e Xoom doesn't do flash and it's SD card slot doesn't work, so I don't think it is an iPad beater.

More importantly, like a recent TUAW story, if you are picking your tablet based on specs, you're doing it wrong. Otherwise you'd be driving a STi or GTI or Mustang 5.0, Corvette or Cayman, depending on which specs you like - the 370Z is like an iPad - second best at a lot of things, and that makes it a winner.

daisuke149 03-04-2011 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 970150)
Apple Haters Take Note: Conan O’Brien Just Eviscerated The iPad 2


Looks Like Google Is Starting To Listen – Hundreds Of Pirated Books/Apps Deleted From Android Market Minutes After Report


Only 0.3% Of The Global Population Owns A Tablet – But There Are Over 5 Billion Mobile Subscribers

RBC Predicts That Android Will Dominate The Tablet Market By 2014

im glad people try to compare sales numbers for a OS found in 10+ tablets vs a piece of hardware made by one company.

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Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 970300)
My mom has an Iphone and cant even figure out how to use a computer.

That alone tells me quite a bit about why I DONT WANT OR NEED ANY APPLE PRODUCTS.

So your saying that because apple makes a product that is good and intuitive to human thought patterns you would rather have something that is a harder to use?

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Originally Posted by wilsonp (Post 970573)
A lot of these comments make me wonder why you own a 370Z instead of a horse.

By the way, Nissan comes out with a new model Z every year, why aren't you buying it instead of riding around in last year's junk that doesn't even have a compass?

The iPad is an in-between device, like my boss said, it is second best at a lot of things - but having the second best web browser, the second best eBook reader, the second best GPS, the second best spreadsheet editor, photo viewer, game player with you is pretty convenient.

And don't fool yourself, it is going to be a heavy business device. We have physician using them for medical records access, radilogy imaging access and dictation. We have employees using them for remote desktop control, accessing corporate systems. We have them syncing to corporate email. The Xoom will need another version to catch up with the iPad 1. And a lot more developer action. Right now e Xoom doesn't do flash and it's SD card slot doesn't work, so I don't think it is an iPad beater.

More importantly, like a recent TUAW story, if you are picking your tablet based on specs, you're doing it wrong. Otherwise you'd be driving a STi or GTI or Mustang 5.0, Corvette or Cayman, depending on which specs you like - the 370Z is like an iPad - second best at a lot of things, and that makes it a winner.

Agreed it is capable of all those things you mentioned in business but the % using it for that is probably EXTREMELY low. But it does have that potential where as the android tablets dont. by apple controlling the quality, ui, changes etc very closely its easy to develop for in terms of you dont have to worry about it working on 20 different models, or a future OS release.

370zFORme!! 03-04-2011 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilsonp (Post 970573)
A lot of these comments make me wonder why you own a 370Z instead of a horse.

By the way, Nissan comes out with a new model Z every year, why aren't you buying it instead of riding around in last year's junk that doesn't even have a compass?

The iPad is an in-between device, like my boss said, it is second best at a lot of things - but having the second best web browser, the second best eBook reader, the second best GPS, the second best spreadsheet editor, photo viewer, game player with you is pretty convenient.

And don't fool yourself, it is going to be a heavy business device. We have physician using them for medical records access, radilogy imaging access and dictation. We have employees using them for remote desktop control, accessing corporate systems. We have them syncing to corporate email. The Xoom will need another version to catch up with the iPad 1. And a lot more developer action. Right now e Xoom doesn't do flash and it's SD card slot doesn't work, so I don't think it is an iPad beater.

More importantly, like a recent TUAW story, if you are picking your tablet based on specs, you're doing it wrong. Otherwise you'd be driving a STi or GTI or Mustang 5.0, Corvette or Cayman, depending on which specs you like - the 370Z is like an iPad - second best at a lot of things, and that makes it a winner.

^This

370zFORme!! 03-04-2011 11:50 PM

I think the voting speaks for itself, the majority of people here dont care, maybe that will mean shorter lines on launch day :)

theDreamer 03-05-2011 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 370zFORme!! (Post 970609)
I think the voting speaks for itself, the majority of people here dont care, maybe that will mean shorter lines on launch day :)

Not going to happen, recent surveys show that iPad 1 second hand sales have jumped dramatically since the announcement of iPad 2. Meaning a lot of people are going to be getting the new one and then you add in the many you always wake for gen 2 from Apple.

EazyD 03-05-2011 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 969160)
Motorola Xoom and Android 3.0 Honeycomb blow the Itrash2 away. Clearly this person is a fanboy......and.....THE APPLICATIONS BETWEEN ANDROID AND APPLE ARE IDENTICAL AND MADE BY THE SAME DEVELOPERS.......only difeerence is the UI.

Hey, relax, man. I'm no fanboy, I've used both types.
I used to have an iPhone 3G and instead of getting the iPhone 4, I got the Samsung Captivate (Galaxy S) and was excited about all the extra things I am able to do with Android OS. I rooted, turned it into 3G wifi hotspot, etc etc. And then.... the tinkering got old and I just want my damn phone to just "work".. I don't want to have to root... and the apps suck. Yes, large developer companies have ported their games to lots of OSes, but for the most part, the apps are nasty and full of bugs and crap - and they LOOK like crap - there are no standards to follow.

2cents.

PapoZalsa 03-05-2011 10:18 PM

WOW, to many geeks in this thread!!! :stirthepot:

Cmike2780 03-06-2011 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 971787)
WOW, to many geeks in this thread!!! :stirthepot:

Geeks run the world. :tup:

southercadesi 03-06-2011 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 971787)
WOW, to many geeks in this thread!!! :stirthepot:

We prefer the term nerds :tup:

Kirkster 03-06-2011 07:37 PM

Will be ordering mine online on the 11th as I am going to be out of the country. Otherwise I would be in a line somewhere.

I have been a long time early adaptor of technology. Have had all of the iPhone versions Some on day one, some a few months later. Same thing with most of the iPods. I have an older jailbroken iPhone just to have an iPhone to work wherever I go just by plugging in a local SIM.

8 months ago I was probably the only one with an iPad at my company. Now all of the executives have them, as well as most of the sales executives and staff basically hundreds of them. The company will be porting its communications suite to the iPad 2 by april now that there is a front facing video camera.

The problem that my company has with the android platform is that there is no uniform hardware to build to (hence why we have our own tablet at the moment) the android tablet market will probably turn into the same thing that the phone market turned into. A half dozen companies making different hardware platform, all running different revs of Android software. Which makes application development interesting.

I predicted the Android malware and virus problem a long time ago. As much as I dislike the strict rules of the Apple App store I understand where they are coming from. Android is going to turn into the same user experience that Windows currently enjoys, Malware and Virus heaven...

torpedo2k 03-07-2011 05:36 PM

To the OP- I really like Apple products but I will never stand in line for one. I have friends that do for some reason. They are true fan boys that watch every keynote and treat Jobs like a god. I have (had) the first version and my wife stole it from me after Day 1. ;) She likes the fact that she can have iBooks, Kindle and nook all in one device. Outdoor visibility leaves something to be desired but there are workarounds. It is the benchmark for all tablets though - in my opinion others are trying to replicate while at the moment Apple is innovating.
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 969160)
Motorola Xoom and Android 3.0 Honeycomb blow the Itrash2 away. Clearly this person is a fanboy......and.....THE APPLICATIONS BETWEEN ANDROID AND APPLE ARE IDENTICAL AND MADE BY THE SAME DEVELOPERS.......only difeerence is the UI.

You seem to be dealing in absolutes. When you do- sometimes you can be absolutely wrong.
Apple applications are written in Objective C, a subset of the C language. Android apps are written in Java.
Yes, some software vendors write applications for both platforms. The key is the language they are written in. Objective C is hard core on memory management. The other factor is Apple's control and testing of all apps that are published. Google's Market Place on the other hand is kind of like the Wild Wild West at the moment. I have learned not to chose sides in the Apple vs Android debate. Having had hands on with both devices, I like features on both. My only problem with Android is reliability. I have seen first hand an app go astray and you couldn't even make a phone call. I doubt they will ever reach Apples reliability due to the nature of the product and the multitude of hardware platforms they are trying to support. It doesn't matter though. We all win in the end because the competition makes it better for all consumers no matter what your choice. Competition is a wonderful thing!

These are my opinions but they are based on almost twenty years experience working in IT. I am currently a Product Analyst and assist in product evaluation, selection and guide businesses with their product selections. When people at work walk by my office and say "What computer should I buy" I always answer with a question - "What do you need it to do?" Once they explain I make my recommendation based on their need.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 972535)
Geeks run the world. :tup:

Not yet, but we are close... (insert Dr. Evil laugh here)


Quote:

Originally Posted by southercadesi (Post 972605)
We prefer the term nerds :tup:

NO! I prefer Geek. Nerd infers that you are inept in social situations but have the same technical ability of the Geek. :tup:


HKYStorm and Dai- Apple is making huge inroads in the business/enterprise. VPNs and certificates are making connectivity to the enterprise seamless. I tested my iPad with VPN connectivity to a cloud running a virtual PC desktop a couple of months ago. It was pretty amazing.

OMG I just posted this in a car forum... :rofl2:

bigaudiofanat 03-07-2011 07:37 PM

I would wait until the new ones comes out in 6 months "no joke" ipad 3 is on it's way. Not to mention I see no reason to get this one I would just buy a used original ipad if I had to.


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