Is College Worth It? 20/20 ABC News

AK370Z · 03-29-2009, 05:01 PM

YouTube - John Stossel Is College Worth It? 20/20 ABC News

Interesting video..

Anatoray · 03-29-2009, 07:21 PM

Whaaaaaaaat? I was never fed this million dollar scam line. If I had, I would have laughed, and seriously, you have to be stupid to believe it. Most kids going to college have parents that also went to college. Are their parents all making a million+? FAT CHANCE.

This is something I've known all along, and my parents warned me about it while I was a freshman that a college degree is nothing more than a piece of paper that allows you to type a line on your resume. While I believe a college degree gives people better chances, it is a fact that more and more people get these degrees each season, and nowhere near as many people are retiring at the same time. So once you get that piece of paper, knuckle up, because now the **** gets real.

theDreamer · 03-29-2009, 07:32 PM

One of the ways I was told to look at the piece of paper is, it shows commitment, you can buckle down and do the work needed to reach a goal. Many professions in college can be taught by being hands on, but by spending the time (and money) you show commitment to your work.

This is just one way to look at.

MC · 03-29-2009, 07:52 PM

i kinda agree with some points in that video.

it does seem like college loans can get you trapped in the "machine" where you go so far into debt to go to college then you spend a good part of you 20's or 30's paying it all back. your forced to work to pay for something that allowed you to work

and now with the job market like it is your even less guaranteed a job right out of college..... so yeah i get what they are sayin

but i mean it also depends on the individual. like some careers are highly specialized where you HAVE to go to learn that field...

so i think if you have a goal and you know exactly what you want to be it still makes as much sense as it ever did. if you went just so you wouldnt have to find a job for 4 more years and you have to pay your own way.. then it might be good to take a step back and see if you really want to get overyour head financially

me my parents paid for college and i just went because i guess it was the thing to do. i majored in sociology with and area of concentration in philosophy of religion but am i using that in anyway for my job..hell no. i dont regret going because i learned some cool stuff i guess. but on the other hand if i had to do it over and i could just take the $ i might be tempted..

dad · 03-29-2009, 08:18 PM

Doctor, lawyer, yes you need college. Bill Gates did he drop out? That guy that owns Virgin Airlines, I can't find his name, drop out?

BanningZ · 03-29-2009, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anatoray

Whaaaaaaaat? I was never fed this million dollar scam line. If I had, I would have laughed, and seriously, you have to be stupid to believe it. Most kids going to college have parents that also went to college. Are their parents all making a million+? FAT CHANCE.

This is in reference to a lifetime of work, not an annual salary.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad

Doctor, lawyer, yes you need college. Bill Gates did he drop out? That guy that owns Virgin Airlines, I can't find his name, drop out?

Sir Richard Charles Nicholas Branson: Richard Branson is the 236th richest person according to Forbes' 2008 list of billionaires, with an estimated net worth of approximately $4.4 billion. He dropped out of School at the age of 15. Branson has dyslexia and had poor academic performance as a student, but discovered his ability to connect with others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Branson

dad · 03-29-2009, 09:07 PM

Thank you BanningZ!

Just use your head and you'll get prosper!

arcticreaver · 03-29-2009, 09:13 PM

college doesn't teach you the real skills needed to succeed in life. it only prepares you. experience and will power is more important.

SoCal 370Z · 03-29-2009, 09:44 PM

Graduate school truly opens your eyes to the rest of the world. The views you thought were correct are only one point of view on a subject as you meet so many other students from different parts of the world.

molamann · 03-30-2009, 11:24 AM

Well entrepreneurship is something you really can’t learn in school. Also, Bill Gates’s success is somewhat unique since he had extremely wealthy parents which allowed him to completely devote himself to computers when computers were even unheard of.

jamcro · 03-30-2009, 12:23 PM

The misleading part of College is that it'll make stupid people successful.

Being smart also involves researching your field BEFORE getting educated in it. Quite often the things you like to do, or the things that sound fun will not bring you reliable employment or wealth.

I'd like to go to college to be an oil-application engineer for the swedish swim team.

BanningZ · 03-30-2009, 06:10 PM

^win!

Brazilbro · 04-02-2009, 03:16 AM

the problem is that to many people study fields that have no future or use. i know a girl who has a masters in history 500bc-1500ac ... you know what she does.. nothing, my brothers wife has a degree in web design.. u know what she does.. yup.. u guessed it.. nothing, guess not nothing shes a mom.. guess that counts for something..

chubbs · 04-02-2009, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad

Doctor, lawyer, yes you need college. Bill Gates did he drop out? That guy that owns Virgin Airlines, I can't find his name, drop out?

Oh dear Dad!

His name's Richard Branson and he left school with no qualifications! oops

BanningZ · 04-02-2009, 05:49 AM

Dude chubbs,

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad

Doctor, lawyer, yes you need college. Bill Gates did he drop out? That guy that owns Virgin Airlines, I can't find his name, drop out?

Sir Richard Charles Nicholas Branson: Richard Branson is the 236th richest person according to Forbes' 2008 list of billionaires, with an estimated net worth of approximately $4.4 billion. He dropped out of School at the age of 15. Branson has dyslexia and had poor academic performance as a student, but discovered his ability to connect with others.

Richard Branson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Anatoray Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 794 Drives: 09 BLK 370Z Rep Power: 17	Whaaaaaaaat? I was never fed this million dollar scam line. If I had, I would have laughed, and seriously, you have to be stupid to believe it. Most kids going to college have parents that also went to college. Are their parents all making a million+? FAT CHANCE. This is something I've known all along, and my parents warned me about it while I was a freshman that a college degree is nothing more than a piece of paper that allows you to type a line on your resume. While I believe a college degree gives people better chances, it is a fact that more and more people get these degrees each season, and nowhere near as many people are retiring at the same time. So once you get that piece of paper, knuckle up, because now the **** gets real.

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MC Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NC Posts: 3,238 Drives: 2015 GTR NISMO Rep Power: 24	i kinda agree with some points in that video. it does seem like college loans can get you trapped in the "machine" where you go so far into debt to go to college then you spend a good part of you 20's or 30's paying it all back. your forced to work to pay for something that allowed you to work and now with the job market like it is your even less guaranteed a job right out of college..... so yeah i get what they are sayin but i mean it also depends on the individual. like some careers are highly specialized where you HAVE to go to learn that field... so i think if you have a goal and you know exactly what you want to be it still makes as much sense as it ever did. if you went just so you wouldnt have to find a job for 4 more years and you have to pay your own way.. then it might be good to take a step back and see if you really want to get overyour head financially me my parents paid for college and i just went because i guess it was the thing to do. i majored in sociology with and area of concentration in philosophy of religion but am i using that in anyway for my job..hell no. i dont regret going because i learned some cool stuff i guess. but on the other hand if i had to do it over and i could just take the $ i might be tempted..

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molamann A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,666 Drives: 370Z with NAVVVVV Rep Power: 284	Well entrepreneurship is something you really can’t learn in school. Also, Bill Gates’s success is somewhat unique since he had extremely wealthy parents which allowed him to completely devote himself to computers when computers were even unheard of.

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jamcro Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Edm, Canada Posts: 72 Drives: White 370Z Rep Power: 16	The misleading part of College is that it'll make stupid people successful. Being smart also involves researching your field BEFORE getting educated in it. Quite often the things you like to do, or the things that sound fun will not bring you reliable employment or wealth. I'd like to go to college to be an oil-application engineer for the swedish swim team.

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Brazilbro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,131 Drives: Juke/240Z Rep Power: 848	the problem is that to many people study fields that have no future or use. i know a girl who has a masters in history 500bc-1500ac ... you know what she does.. nothing, my brothers wife has a degree in web design.. u know what she does.. yup.. u guessed it.. nothing, guess not nothing shes a mom.. guess that counts for something..

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