Good handguns

370zproject · 11-16-2010, 01:23 PM

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Don't worry, I know a guy...

Red__Zed · 11-16-2010, 01:24 PM

Springfield XD-9 would be my recommendation for a first gun around the home, or for carry. 9 mil ammo isn't as cheap as it used to be, but it still supports the requisite time at the range better than any other option (22 cal aside).

370zproject · 11-16-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Springfield XD-9 would be my recommendation for a first gun around the home, or for carry. 9 mil ammo isn't as cheap as it used to be, but it still supports the requisite time at the range better than any other option (22 cal aside).

gonna have to try that one

flashburn · 11-16-2010, 01:26 PM

I found this pretty interesting when I was shopping for a gun...
SPRINGFIELD ARMORY
In short, they did a crazy torture test on the XD that included freezing the gun, covering it in dirt, mud, and degreasing it, and firing off rounds in between all of that. After they did that, they fired off another 1,700 rounds. 20,000 rounds in total, and not a single malfunction. I thought that was pretty damn impressive.

flashburn · 11-16-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject

gonna have to try that one

Oh I see how it is, when I recommend it you ignore me, but Red__Zed does and now you'll try it.

flashburn · 11-16-2010, 01:30 PM

One cool thing about going to the range with the XDm 9mm is that the stock magazines hold 19 rounds (+1 in the chamber). It doesn't really matter for home defense, as you probably won't need that many rounds unless you can't aim for ****, or are defending against an army, but when going to the range it makes it nice, as you won't have to buy as many clips or reload your clips as often.

I'm not sure how comparable it is to other guns, but the XDm is really easy to disassemble and clean.

370zproject · 11-16-2010, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

Oh I see how it is, when I recommend it you ignore me, but Red__Zed does and now you'll try it.

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Originally Posted by flashburn

One cool thing about going to the range with the XDm 9mm is that the stock magazines hold 19 rounds (+1 in the chamber). It doesn't really matter for home defense, as you probably won't need that many rounds unless you can't aim for ****, or are defending against an army, but when going to the range it makes it nice, as you won't have to buy as many clips or reload your clips as often.

I'm not sure how comparable it is to other guns, but the XDm is really easy to disassemble and clean.

2 recomendations are better then 1 that all im saying lol

ThoriumHotdog · 11-16-2010, 01:35 PM

A simple shotgun works well for home defense. The minute an intruder hears the racking of a round they'll crap their pants and run. It's not something you can carry around with you but its a cheap alternative to a handgun when it comes to the home.

flashburn · 11-16-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject

2 recomendations are better then 1 that all im saying lol

Uh huh, sure...

All this gun talk is making me want to hit up the range. It's been a long time (way too long unfortunately). Nice thing is there is a good indoor range about 15 minutes away from my office, so I can go during a lunch break.

Red__Zed · 11-16-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

One cool thing about going to the range with the XDm 9mm is that the stock magazines hold 19 rounds (+1 in the chamber). It doesn't really matter for home defense, as you probably won't need that many rounds unless you can't aim for ****, or are defending against an army, but when going to the range it makes it nice, as you won't have to buy as many clips or reload your clips as often.

I'm not sure how comparable it is to other guns, but the XDm is really easy to disassemble and clean.

The M is nice as well. I like the fact that it can be disassembled without pulling the trigger, if only for peace of mind. I think the grip is a little less comfortable, and it may be hard to justify to extra cost for a first gun, but it is nevertheless worth trying out.

Red__Zed · 11-16-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

Oh I see how it is, when I recommend it you ignore me, but Red__Zed does and now you'll try it.

I like to think I seem trustworthy

370zproject · 11-16-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

Uh huh, sure...

All this gun talk is making me want to hit up the range. It's been a long time (way too long unfortunately). Nice thing is there is a good indoor range about 15 minutes away from my office, so I can go during a lunch break.

yw

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I like to think I seem trustworthy

flashburn · 11-16-2010, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

The M is nice as well. I like the fact that it can be disassembled without pulling the trigger, if only for peace of mind. I think the grip is a little less comfortable, and it may be hard to justify to extra cost for a first gun, but it is nevertheless worth trying out.

Yeah, I forgot how I justified buying the XDm over the XD in the first place. I've heard the grip comfort is hit or miss on the XDm. Luckily it is a good fit for my hand.

I think one of the differences between the XD and XDm was the stock clip size, maybe it was 14 vs 19? Not a big deal, but it was something. I think the trigger was supposed to be better as well.

Red__Zed · 11-16-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

Yeah, I forgot how I justified buying the XDm over the XD in the first place. I've heard the grip comfort is hit or miss on the XDm. Luckily it is a good fit for my hand.

I think one of the differences between the XD and XDm was the stock clip size, maybe it was 14 vs 19? Not a big deal, but it was something. I think the trigger was supposed to be better as well.

16+1 vs 19+1 for capacity. The barrel is the main benefit of the XDm in my mind, but it's not such a huge difference.

StLRedrider · 11-16-2010, 02:04 PM

HK

i carry a 4o cal. love it!!!!!!!

View Poll Results: best personal gun for home
Taurus .357	2	2.44%
Sig P220	11	13.41%
Springfield XD-9	9	10.98%
HKS USP .45	13	15.85%
Ruger P90	4	4.88%
shotgun	10	12.20%
357 Sig	4	4.88%
Smith and Wesson M&P series	6	7.32%
Glock 17/19/?	32	39.02%
357SIG	4	4.88%
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11-16-2010, 01:26 PM	#19 (permalink)
flashburn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,884 Drives: '12 Corvette GS 6M Rep Power: 19	I found this pretty interesting when I was shopping for a gun... SPRINGFIELD ARMORY In short, they did a crazy torture test on the XD that included freezing the gun, covering it in dirt, mud, and degreasing it, and firing off rounds in between all of that. After they did that, they fired off another 1,700 rounds. 20,000 rounds in total, and not a single malfunction. I thought that was pretty damn impressive. __________________ Current Ride: 2012 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport Centennial Edition Carbon Flash 6M Previous Ride: 2009 Nissan 370Z Sport Platinum Graphite 7AT

11-16-2010, 01:30 PM	#21 (permalink)
flashburn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,884 Drives: '12 Corvette GS 6M Rep Power: 19	One cool thing about going to the range with the XDm 9mm is that the stock magazines hold 19 rounds (+1 in the chamber). It doesn't really matter for home defense, as you probably won't need that many rounds unless you can't aim for **, or are defending against an army, but when going to the range it makes it nice, as you won't have to buy as many clips or reload your clips as often. I'm not sure how comparable it is to other guns, but the XDm is really easy to disassemble and clean. __________________ Current Ride: 2012 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport Centennial Edition Carbon Flash 6M Previous Ride: 2009 Nissan 370Z Sport Platinum Graphite 7AT**

11-16-2010, 02:04 PM	#30 (permalink)
StLRedrider A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: St.louis,Mo Posts: 17,755 Drives: O9Sprt/Touring,p-51 Rep Power: 60	HK i carry a 4o cal. love it!!!!!!! __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today J.Dean

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Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	Springfield XD-9 would be my recommendation for a first gun around the home, or for carry. 9 mil ammo isn't as cheap as it used to be, but it still supports the requisite time at the range better than any other option (22 cal aside).

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ThoriumHotdog A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: TX Posts: 1,104 Drives: Turbo CRX si Rep Power: 17	A simple shotgun works well for home defense. The minute an intruder hears the racking of a round they'll crap their pants and run. It's not something you can carry around with you but its a cheap alternative to a handgun when it comes to the home.