Hk p2000sk .357sig :)

Yeah handguns :happydance:

Belgian made Browning High Power in 9mm.

Sig Sauer Mosquito camo in .22 with threaded barrel. I have a supressor that is interchangeable with my CZ model 452.


I am a Sig fan, but you can't go wrong with an XD(M) or H&K.

The problem is that the agency or department doesn't have the time or money to have the cops at the range all the time. Shooting at the range is a luxury for civilians. I'm all about supporting more range days.

:bowrofl: I'm glad someone did it.

I understand this, and maybe it is just inherent ability, but I skipped the range for over a year while I was in college too broke to pay fees/ammo and walked in after that and proceeded to put them all in the head of the sillhouette at the 15 yard line no problem during my CCW class. I think what many cops lack is a good foundation in the FUNDAMENTALS of shooting. Trigger control, front sight, etc. All they care about is taking that dusty thing out of their holster and qualifying every 6 months, 1 year, whatever their policy is. They never break it down and clean it, its just more "gear" to them. One state trooper I spoke with did not even know what caliber his P220 was.

They may have heard these terms and know what they mean, but noone spent the time with them to help them feel and use those "terms". I have seen this with a lot of former/current military as well. There is a HUGE lack of understanding of and practice of the fundamentals that lead to making solid hits on target quickly.

Practice makes perfect, but doing the wrong thing over and over and over makes for a poor performance.

OMG!!! PREACH IT!!! :tup: this is sooo true! The difference in the good shooters and ok shooters is all in the fundamentals! Its the little things that make the difference! because they all add up... I started out at a gun range renting then decided I wanted more. So I bought an HK45 I liked it alot mainly because of the name and my nerdy gamer attitude. I soon learned that the gun wasnt the best match for me and my inherent shooting style sooo... :tup: I started renting again and calling friends Like SEMTEX to go shooting with me and go to gun shows... soon I found that I was meant to shoot 1911's I started watching as my groupings dropped into smaller and smaller circles and I felt extremely comfortable with a 1911 in my hand. One day me an Semtex went to a gun show and we saw my Dan Wesson Valor sitting on the bench brand new for $1200... both of us looked at each other and Semtex (Ben) said if you dont buy it I will... It will go nicely with my collection of Ed Brown's... I said screw that and bought it on site! The next day I took it to the range and I could not believe my eyes when the first 5 shots were a 1" grouping at 25yd backstop... I put the gun down and said I am done for the day... that didnt last but 5 secs before I wanted to shoot it more! Now I am a consistent 3" grouping guy at 25yd backstop so this was night and day!!!


I also bought a POF 6.8SPC AR like in the pics I showed you guys... surprisingly the 6.8SPC is good to 700yds!!! the 5.56 effectiveness truly falls off at 500yds but the 6.8 carries to 700yds! I have a friend with a private outdoor range that goes to 800yds and at 700yds he placed a 6" diameter Manikin(sp) head on a metal re-bar rod that stuck 2-3ft in the ground. It took me about 5-7 shots to hit it but once I did it spun the head like a top and threw the head and re-bar to the ground... I was using a Trijicon TA31F which is only a 4x magnifier so a 6" target is like a speck of dust on the lense. my brother was spotting for me with our 52x spotting scope and every shot was like a 1" to .5" off of the target... I contributed it to shooter error not hitting the target sooner. It seemed like if you breathed wrong or pulled a little too hard on the trigger you missed by a fraction lol I was getting pissed and determined to hit it... and called it a day after I nailed it.

ohhh the fun of shooting :tup:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...4/3dfdee40.jpgnot mine but my brother in law's collection

dpms lrt-sass .308
belgian AK
POF (forgot which model but I do remember that it's a new round)
Sig556
kimber SIS 1911

he also has a glock 21 & 32, SA xD .45 and a remington 870.

:rolleyes: I think both of you overestimate yourselves. Not all cops are as you describe. Maybe you know the crappy ones that don't care, or they have issues they don't want to discuss which affects their shooting.

The fundamentals ARE important, but I think some people refuse to practice them or listen to the instructions.

Shooting head shots at the 15 yard line isn't hard at all. I can do that all day. Going a year w/o shooting only made you more careful and focused.

All I'm saying is please don't generalize the LEO's. I also want to reiterate that the luxury of taking more time at the range rests with those that don't have as much on their plate as the LEO's.

:wtf2:

I'm a pretty good shooter. This is my instructor. We can empty six clips and hit a bottle at 15 yards.

http://www.jedi-robe.com/images/page...m_gun_half.jpg

To answer the original question, I think the 870 would be a great investment for home defense. It's like the Chevy 350 engine - reliable and built like a brick shithouse.

:iagree:, my 1st was an 870 2o guage wingmaster

I had not idea we had so many gun nuts on this forum. I think we need a dedicated thread.

Ruger sp-101 .357 is my main conceal carry because I still think that revolvers are more dependable than semi-autos, it has the stopping power and is under $500. I can also use cheap .38 special ammo for practice. That being said, I love my Beretta 92 and Beretta Storm .45 for fun.
If you carry/store in your car then you may want a locking gun safe that tethers to the seat anchor. Then you can place it on the shelf behind the passenger seat for easy retrieval.

I prefer to think of myself as a pro-second amendment kind of guy rather than a "gun nut" :icon17:

I see a lot of you are serious about your guns. How many of you reload your own ammo? I've been picking up brass since I was five so it's almost second nature to reload my own. :)

:iagree:

Done :tup:
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