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ImportConvert 11-17-2010 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by StLRedrider (Post 813502)
as far as i know full auto is illegal

If the weapon/triggergroup is manufactured after 1989, from what I understand, and you do not have correct paperwork, it is.

That is why I would never own a PS90/5.7x28 caliber weapon except as a toy.

ImportConvert 11-17-2010 08:06 PM

Whatever you get, I think a first handgun should be 9mm. That way you will go and shoot it more as ammo is cheaper, recoil is less, etc. If you don't train with it enough to put the lead on target when it counts, caliber doesn't matter one bit.

370zproject 11-17-2010 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by StLRedrider (Post 813507)
tender loving care, the springfield is a very rugged pistol as is the glock. they are ment to be used and abused dirty. eventually everything needs to be broke down and cleaned

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 813511)
Whatever you get, I think a first handgun should be 9mm. That way you will go and shoot it more as ammo is cheaper, recoil is less, etc. If you don't train with it enough to put the lead on target when it counts, caliber doesn't matter one bit.

this man makeing sense

SmoothZ 11-17-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 813497)
Who carries it? The president's body-guards carry the 357SIG. The FAMS carry the 357SIG. The only people with the 5.7x28 carry it in the SBR'ed and full-auto P90 configuration where they can dump A LOT! of those little things on-target in a hurry.

Spray and pray, baby! LOL

StLRedrider 11-17-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 813508)
If the weapon/triggergroup is manufactured after 1989, from what I understand, and you do not have correct paperwork, it is.

That is why I would never own a PS90/5.7x28 caliber weapon except as a toy.

i see!!!!!

i shot a fully loaded thompson center fire .45 from WW II a while back, kinda cool and real expensive real fast!!!!!!!

StLRedrider 11-17-2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ (Post 813525)
Spray and pray, baby! LOL

there's my boy!!!!!! what up smooth?

370zproject 11-17-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ (Post 813525)
Spray and pray, baby! LOL

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ImportConvert 11-17-2010 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ (Post 813525)
Spray and pray, baby! LOL

The neat thing about the P90 is a marked lack of recoil, and the fact that while the SS190 round is like an ice-pick with only a small stretch cavity and very small permanent cavity, even at the points where it tumbles, it WILL punch through body-armor and if you put 30-40 of them on a person...it adds up.

Since I cannot own a full-auto P90, and I want the problem solved in as little hits as possible while not totally giving up ammunition capacity, the 9mm makes more sense for me. 16 rounds in a compact package + a spare magazine=31 rounds everywhere I go, 16 ready immediately. Really like my G19/MTAC

370zproject 11-17-2010 08:20 PM

hmm

SmoothZ 11-17-2010 08:21 PM

I trained with the USSS, and they were average shooters. I think they made the wrong choice with their service weapons.

I personally like the Glock 9mm option. However, I train with the Sig 229.

SmoothZ 11-17-2010 08:22 PM

I voted for the shotgun for close quarter combat shooting. Actually, I'd like to have the handgun on standby if I'm going to use the shotgun as my primary before running out of ammo.

StLRedrider 11-17-2010 08:24 PM

screw that, thats a big hole in the dry wall to fix

FERRARI 11-17-2010 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 813537)
The neat thing about the P90 is a marked lack of recoil, and the fact that while the SS190 round is like an ice-pick with only a small stretch cavity and very small permanent cavity, even at the points where it tumbles, it WILL punch through body-armor and if you put 30-40 of them on a person...it adds up.

Since I cannot own a full-auto P90, and I want the problem solved in as little hits as possible while not totally giving up ammunition capacity, the 9mm makes more sense for me. 16 rounds in a compact package + a spare magazine=31 rounds everywhere I go, 16 ready immediately. Really like my G19/MTAC

Wow.....lol.....Lack of recoil? lol I can not believe that no one here even knows what an FN FIVE_SEVEN is.....the least recoil pistol make.....weighs 1.2 pounds........and that it is what the "Fort Hood" shooter used to shoot over 100 times in 30 seconds......I mean every CIA.....NSA agent carries one !!!! By the time you get two rounds off at someone with an FN.......he can put 6 or 7 on you .....and with a muzzle velocity of over 2,000 ft a second......your guns mentioned here are at about 900 ft a second

SmoothZ 11-17-2010 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by StLRedrider (Post 813556)
screw that, thats a big hole in the dry wall to fix

:D Better than a bullet ricocheting all over the place. Besides, if they're hiding around the corner, then I can shoot through the wall/corner with a slug.

370zproject 11-17-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by StLRedrider (Post 813556)
screw that, thats a big hole in the dry wall to fix

lol

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ (Post 813564)
:D Better than a bullet ricocheting all over the place. Besides, if they're hiding around the corner, then I can shoot through the wall/corner with a slug.

to many movies my friend


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