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Old 01-18-2011, 03:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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High court denies man's gun arrest appeal

WASHINGTON – Missing a plane connection cost Utah gun owner Greg Revell 10 days in jail after he was stranded in New Jersey with an unloaded firearm he had legally checked with his luggage in Salt Lake City.

Nevertheless, the Supreme Court without comment refused on Tuesday to let Revell sue Port Authority of New York and New Jersey police for arresting him on illegal possession of a firearm in New Jersey and for not returning his gun and ammunition to him for more than three years.

Revell was flying from Salt Lake City to Allentown, Pa., on March 31, 2005, with connections in Minneapolis and Newark, N.J. He had checked his Utah-licensed gun and ammunition with his luggage in Salt Lake City and asked airport officials to deliver them both with his luggage in Allentown.

But the flight from Minneapolis to Newark was late, so Revell missed his connection to Allentown. The airline wanted to bus its passengers to Allentown, but Revell realized that his luggage had not made it onto the bus and got off. After finding his luggage had been given a final destination of Newark by mistake, Revell missed the bus. He collected his luggage, including his gun and ammunition, and decided to wait in a nearby hotel with his stuff until the next flight in the morning.

When Revell tried to check in for the morning flight, he again informed the airline officials about his gun and ammunition to have them checked through to Allentown. He was reported to the TSA, and then arrested by Port Authority police for having a gun in New Jersey without a New Jersey license.

He spent 10 days in several different jails before posting bail. Police dropped the charges a few months later. But his gun and ammunition were not returned to him until 2008.

Revell said he should not have been arrested because federal law allows licensed gun owners to take their weapons through any state as long as they are unloaded and not readily accessible to people. He said it was not his fault the airline stranded him in New Jersey by making him miss his flight and routing his luggage to the wrong destination.

Prosecutors said it doesn't matter whose fault it was: Revell was arrested in New Jersey with a readily accessible gun in his possession without a New Jersey license.

Lower courts have sympathized with Revell but refused to let him sue the police.

"We recognize that he had been placed in a difficult situation through no fault of his own," wrote Judge Kent A. Jordan of the U.S. 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia. However, the law "clearly requires the traveler to part ways with his weapon and ammunition during travel; it does not address this type of interrupted journey or what the traveler is to do in this situation."

The case is Revell v. Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, 10-236.

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High court denies man's gun arrest appeal

WASHINGTON – Missing a plane connection cost Utah gun owner Greg Revell 10 days in jail after he was stranded in New Jersey with an unloaded firearm he had legally checked with his luggage in Salt Lake City.

Nevertheless, the Supreme Court without comment refused on Tuesday to let Revell sue Port Authority of New York and New Jersey police for arresting him on illegal possession of a firearm in New Jersey and for not returning his gun and ammunition to him for more than three years.

Revell was flying from Salt Lake City to Allentown, Pa., on March 31, 2005, with connections in Minneapolis and Newark, N.J. He had checked his Utah-licensed gun and ammunition with his luggage in Salt Lake City and asked airport officials to deliver them both with his luggage in Allentown.

But the flight from Minneapolis to Newark was late, so Revell missed his connection to Allentown. The airline wanted to bus its passengers to Allentown, but Revell realized that his luggage had not made it onto the bus and got off. After finding his luggage had been given a final destination of Newark by mistake, Revell missed the bus. He collected his luggage, including his gun and ammunition, and decided to wait in a nearby hotel with his stuff until the next flight in the morning.

When Revell tried to check in for the morning flight, he again informed the airline officials about his gun and ammunition to have them checked through to Allentown. He was reported to the TSA, and then arrested by Port Authority police for having a gun in New Jersey without a New Jersey license.

He spent 10 days in several different jails before posting bail. Police dropped the charges a few months later. But his gun and ammunition were not returned to him until 2008.

Revell said he should not have been arrested because federal law allows licensed gun owners to take their weapons through any state as long as they are unloaded and not readily accessible to people. He said it was not his fault the airline stranded him in New Jersey by making him miss his flight and routing his luggage to the wrong destination.

Prosecutors said it doesn't matter whose fault it was: Revell was arrested in New Jersey with a readily accessible gun in his possession without a New Jersey license.

Lower courts have sympathized with Revell but refused to let him sue the police.

"We recognize that he had been placed in a difficult situation through no fault of his own," wrote Judge Kent A. Jordan of the U.S. 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia. However, the law "clearly requires the traveler to part ways with his weapon and ammunition during travel; it does not address this type of interrupted journey or what the traveler is to do in this situation."

The case is Revell v. Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, 10-236.

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I read about that earlier, honestly I cant believe they are denying him the right to sue them. His rights were obviously violated so lets just ignore it and go on with our business...amirite?
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I read about that earlier, honestly I cant believe they are denying him the right to sue them. His rights were obviously violated so lets just ignore it and go on with our business...amirite?
You totally missed the point, of both of my posts!
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good luck getting one hahaha

ref. to dad's post - time to grab me a whole bunch of clips.

you know, pretty soon, it's going to be a criminal offense in california to carry a piece of paper in your hand. who knows, with the right technique it could be a deadly weapon
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House Bill Introduced To Ban High-Capacity Magazines The Shooter's Log

A bill written by Democrat Representative Carolyn McCarthy was formally introduced on the House floor last week with the intention of banning ammunition magazines carrying more than 10 rounds. The introduction of the bill follows a mass killing in Tucson that left 19 individuals shot and 6 dead.

“I know what it’s like to have tragedy brought to your life in a split second by a madman with high-capacity ammunition magazines. I’m working to stop it from happening again,” claimed McCarthy. “We need comprehensive reform to reduce the number of people hurt or killed by gunfire in America, but one simple way we can do that is by keeping the worst tools of mass murder away from the general public. This nation has come together before to support this simple, commonsense measure, and it is the law in several states right now. It is a small sacrifice that law-abiding gun owners can make once again in order to increase everyone’s safety.”

Online firearm and ammunition retailer Cheaper Than Dirt! reported seeing a surge in orders for magazines holding more than 10 rounds in the past few days, with 30 round Glock magazines leading sales. Online sales of Glock pistol had also spiked and, at the time of publication of this article, the company was completely sold out of all 9mm Glock handgun models.

“It’s not unusual to see panic buying when legislation like this is introduced,” said Cheaper Than Dirt Chief Operating Officer Roberta Wilson. “Hopefully cooler heads will prevail and we’ll see this bill die in committee. Cheaper Than Dirt has always advocated responsible gun ownership and laws such as the one proposed by Congresswoman McCarthy only deprive law abiding gun owners. Criminals, by definition, ignore such laws and will remain unaffected.”

Democratic Senator Frank Lautenberg disagreed, saying ““High-capacity gun magazines are tools for murder. This common-sense legislation would make it more difficult for someone to carry out a killing spree. Before 2004, these ammunition magazines were banned, and they must be banned again. I am proud to partner on this effort with Rep. McCarthy, who has worked tirelessly throughout her career to curb gun violence in our nation.”
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House Bill Introduced To Ban High-Capacity Magazines The Shooter's Log

A bill written by Democrat Representative Carolyn McCarthy was formally introduced on the House floor last week with the intention of banning ammunition magazines carrying more than 10 rounds. The introduction of the bill follows a mass killing in Tucson that left 19 individuals shot and 6 dead.

“I know what it’s like to have tragedy brought to your life in a split second by a madman with high-capacity ammunition magazines. I’m working to stop it from happening again,” claimed McCarthy. “We need comprehensive reform to reduce the number of people hurt or killed by gunfire in America, but one simple way we can do that is by keeping the worst tools of mass murder away from the general public. This nation has come together before to support this simple, commonsense measure, and it is the law in several states right now. It is a small sacrifice that law-abiding gun owners can make once again in order to increase everyone’s safety.”

Online firearm and ammunition retailer Cheaper Than Dirt! reported seeing a surge in orders for magazines holding more than 10 rounds in the past few days, with 30 round Glock magazines leading sales. Online sales of Glock pistol had also spiked and, at the time of publication of this article, the company was completely sold out of all 9mm Glock handgun models.

“It’s not unusual to see panic buying when legislation like this is introduced,” said Cheaper Than Dirt Chief Operating Officer Roberta Wilson. “Hopefully cooler heads will prevail and we’ll see this bill die in committee. Cheaper Than Dirt has always advocated responsible gun ownership and laws such as the one proposed by Congresswoman McCarthy only deprive law abiding gun owners. Criminals, by definition, ignore such laws and will remain unaffected.”

Democratic Senator Frank Lautenberg disagreed, saying ““High-capacity gun magazines are tools for murder. This common-sense legislation would make it more difficult for someone to carry out a killing spree. Before 2004, these ammunition magazines were banned, and they must be banned again. I am proud to partner on this effort with Rep. McCarthy, who has worked tirelessly throughout her career to curb gun violence in our nation.”
It is extremely unfortunate that politicians decide that smaller magazines reduce mass murders when simply swapping out for a fresh magazine allows for another ten rounds. Just like Bush did with NCLB, and Obama with Healthcare, we're seeing another rush into legislation by riding the panic wave.
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It is extremely unfortunate that politicians decide that smaller magazines reduce mass murders when simply swapping out for a fresh magazine allows for another ten rounds. Just like Bush did with NCLB, and Obama with Healthcare, we're seeing another rush into legislation by riding the panic wave.
In MD, we "enjoy" some restrictive gun laws.

And yet Baltimore City and PG county consistently rank among the nation's highest gun violence rates.

hmmm gun control works? You be the judge.
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Any other info about the M&P?

I was looking at the Springfield XDM 40SW but have read better reviews about the SW M&P 40SW. I am interested in getting the new range kit for the 40SW.

Just want some opinions

they run for about $550 online.
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A little ignorant, but gun carry laws have no true merit because they rarely accomplish anything.
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Not bad. So they sold you a gun at the show? That's quick.
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looks like a uzi kinda
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