Rant: Current car commercials

WarmAndSCSI · 10-19-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I've felt that way about Merc for years. Bimmers, too. Overweight, so how do we sell it as sporty? Put a ridiculously powerful engine in there. Same philosophy as muscle cars had. But still... Muscle cars shouldn't cost 100k and arrive on all-season rubber.

BMW believes in good handling, weight distribution, and douchebaggery though. What does MB tout?

Jeffblue · 10-19-2010, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

lol, the braking package on the $48k SLK300 Roadster:

SOLID rear discs, and single piston floating front calipers? 10.9" rear brakes? A Camry has more braking power than this thing.

I seriously do not get the allure of Mercedes Benz. Their cars are crap for performance unless they wear an AMG badge. No wonder they need so many driver aids.

did you see the top gear where they talk about some special edition mercedes, and how the engine has a plaque that says hand built by so and so. then Clarkson does the math based on how many people they have building engines (which was somehow a known figure) and how many of that car they produce, that 'so and so' was producing some impossibly large amount of engines per year.

shadoquad · 10-19-2010, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

BMW believes in good handling, weight distribution, and douchebaggery though. What does MB tout?

snobbery

WarmAndSCSI · 10-19-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

did you see the top gear where they talk about some special edition mercedes, and how the engine has a plaque that says hand built by so and so. then Clarkson does the math based on how many people they have building engines (which was somehow a known figure) and how many of that car they produce, that 'so and so' was producing some impossibly large amount of engines per year.

Yes lol.

And "hand built" to your average high-end MB owner doesn't mean anything. Said owner has probably never even changed their own oil before, yet alone knows d*ck about building an engine. They probably bolt the valve covers on by hand and call that "hand built."

WarmAndSCSI · 10-19-2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

snobbery

And the C-class gives another choice to stereotypical 3-series-driving trophy wives.

shadoquad · 10-19-2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

Yes lol.

And "hand built" to your average high-end MB owner doesn't mean anything. Said owner has probably never even changed their own oil before, yet alone knows d*ck about building an engine. They probably bolt the valve covers on by hand and call that "hand built."

Merc owners don't need to know much about cars. Their husbands are responsible for the vehicles.

m4a1mustang · 10-19-2010, 11:39 AM

MB has always been a massive power company. Speed. Not necessarily handling but speed. Like I said, autobahn and 1/4 mile whores.

Ever seen a $100+k benz on slicks and skinnies... it's silllly.

Jeffblue · 10-19-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

snobbery

not to turn this into an AT/MT debate, but i think the fact that they do not offer a manual transmission on a single mercedes vehicle shows the kind of market they are catering to. porsche bmw and audi all offer manual gearboxes. mercedes doesn't. I'm not saying that people who get automatics are grandma's by ANY means, if thats what you want, then fine, but you don't see many grandmas driving a stick. and since thats who mercedes is trying to sell to, why offer it?

Jeffblue · 10-19-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

Yes lol.

And "hand built" to your average high-end MB owner doesn't mean anything. Said owner has probably never even changed their own oil before, yet alone knows d*ck about building an engine. They probably bolt the valve covers on by hand and call that "hand built."

do you remember what episode it was? i wan't to find it!

WarmAndSCSI · 10-19-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

MB has always been a massive power company. Speed. Not necessarily handling but speed. Like I said, autobahn and 1/4 mile whores.

Ever seen a $100+k benz on slicks and skinnies... it's silllly.

Yes, but 4900+ lb curb weight is no good for acceleration

WarmAndSCSI · 10-19-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

do you remember what episode it was? i wan't to find it!

Was it the one about the CL AMG Black? Clarkson ended up buying one of those.

It may have been an earlier one.

Jeffblue · 10-19-2010, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

Yes, but 4900+ lb curb weight is no good for acceleration

its all about power to weight ratio

m4a1mustang · 10-19-2010, 11:44 AM

Haha well only old people buy CL's so it doesn't matter.

Our CLK500 weighs in right around 3500lbs which isn't bad for your average luxo coupe.

shadoquad · 10-19-2010, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

not to turn this into an AT/MT debate, but i think the fact that they do not offer a manual transmission on a single mercedes vehicle shows the kind of market they are catering to. porsche bmw and audi all offer manual gearboxes. mercedes doesn't. I'm not saying that people who get automatics are grandma's by ANY means, if thats what you want, then fine, but you don't see many grandmas driving a stick. and since thats who mercedes is trying to sell to, why offer it?

Merc offers MT on their vehicles. They are just really rare. There is currently an SLK at my local carmax with one.

m4a1mustang · 10-19-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

Was it the one about the CL AMG Black? Clarkson ended up buying one of those.

It may have been an earlier one.

The CLK63 AMG Black Series is AMAZING.

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Haha well only old people buy CL's so it doesn't matter. Our CLK500 weighs in right around 3500lbs which isn't bad for your average luxo coupe. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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