Rant: Current car commercials

WarmAndSCSI · 10-19-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Ah, but C class is the entry class Benz, which means "I'm paying for the badge alone."

But it gets better. Go check the specs for E-class and CL-class Benzes. Same sh*t recycled on $60-120k models. The CL600 - a $155,000 car - literally has the same rear brake package as a C300, with some budget 4-piston fixed calipers up front. How pathetic is that? I can't imagine how terribly balanced that braking system is.

m4a1mustang · 10-19-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

And the best marketing minds didn't become marketing professors either

shadoquad · 10-19-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

I agree. Not to generalize, but most of the marketing majors in my school were ditsy girls and gay guys. Management was the other major that kind of annoyed me. I think a good manager, first and foremost, has to know a lot about the field in which they are a manager. you can know all the 3 letter management jargon in the world, if you don't know anything about Steel, you won't be a good manager in a steel manufacturing company. Same thing with marketing. While there is definitely something to be said for ad agencies etc which come up with brilliant ideas of how to sell a product, i think a good product sells itself. Of course, a good product will sell more with good marketing, but if you paint turd gold, its still turd. and the people i met in those majors had this attitude of like 'oh it doesn't matter if i don't know anything about the specific field i plan to enter or anything about its products, i'm a hot shot, i can sell/manage anything.

finance<3

Managers have to be somewhat technical, but also know how to manage people properly and leverage their available talent pool. I've had managers who do one well but fail spectacularly at the other. And most of the ones I've had that do both well either get burnt out by it or get stabbed in the back by one of their "colleagues".

Jeffblue · 10-19-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

And the best marketing minds didn't become marketing professors either

SO true. i think its more true than in any other field. i can see a former CFO or Hedge fund manager who always had a passion for teaching, end up retiring young, and deciding to go become a professor in accounting or finance. What i don't understand, is why on earth i should be listening to a 27 year old professor teach me about marketing.

WarmAndSCSI · 10-19-2010, 12:26 PM

Ha, and the CL550 - a $110,000 "sports" car - has 255-width All-Season tires all around stock. That's kind of pathetic, TBH.

m4a1mustang · 10-19-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

finance<3

Finance <3 indeed. We make money off the morons who think they can actually do ****.

m4a1mustang · 10-19-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

Ha, and the CL550 - a $110,000 "sports" car - has 255-width All-Season tires all around stock. That's kind of pathetic, TBH.

Since when was a CL class a sports car?

m4a1mustang · 10-19-2010, 12:28 PM

The good Mercedes are autobahn or 1/4 mile whores.

WarmAndSCSI · 10-19-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Since when was a CL class a sports car?

How is a $110k coupe with a 400 bhp engine not a sports car?

lol and did you know the 600 bhp CL65 AMG has a curb weight of 4940 lb. WOW what a pig.

m4a1mustang · 10-19-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

How is a $110k coupe with a 400 bhp engine not a sports car?

lol and did you know the 600 bhp CL65 AMG has a curb weight of 4940 lb. WOW what a pig.

Like I said, the good Mercedes are autobahn and 1/4 mile whores.

Jeffblue · 10-19-2010, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Managers have to be somewhat technical, but also know how to manage people properly and leverage their available talent pool. I've had managers who do one well but fail spectacularly at the other. And most of the ones I've had that do both well either get burnt out by it or get stabbed in the back by one of their "colleagues".

you have valid point. Just because you know how to speak a foreign language, doesn't mean you can teach it. Just because you know a lot about an industry, doesn't mean you can manage the north east division of it etc. You need to know both. but i'd be more likely to heed the words of someone who had a lot of experience in the industry over some fresh college grad telling me about CRM and every other abbreviation they read out of their textbook.

shadoquad · 10-19-2010, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

How is a $110k coupe with a 400 bhp engine not a sports car?

lol and did you know the 600 bhp CL65 AMG has a curb weight of 4940 lb. WOW what a pig.

I've felt that way about Merc for years. Bimmers, too. Overweight, so how do we sell it as sporty? Put a ridiculously powerful engine in there. Same philosophy as muscle cars had. But still... Muscle cars shouldn't cost 100k and arrive on all-season rubber.

WarmAndSCSI · 10-19-2010, 12:33 PM

lol, the braking package on the $48k SLK300 Roadster:

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Dual-circuit power-assisted 4-wheel disc brakes. 11.8" ventilated front discs and 10.9" solid rear discs. Single-piston floating front and dual-piston fixed rear calipers

SOLID rear discs, and single piston floating front calipers? 10.9" rear brakes? A Camry has more braking power than this thing.

I seriously do not get the allure of Mercedes Benz. Their cars are crap for performance unless they wear an AMG badge. No wonder they need so many driver aids.

Jeffblue · 10-19-2010, 12:33 PM

the fact of the matter is, people who buy muscle cars don't LOVE the part where they write the check. i feel like people who spend 100k plus on a sedan, on some level, like that part.

i can totally see dropping a fat wad on an M3 or m5(not that i would). but spending more than that on a 750li, i just dont get it.

shadoquad · 10-19-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

you have valid point. Just because you know how to speak a foreign language, doesn't mean you can teach it. Just because you know a lot about an industry, doesn't mean you can manage the north east division of it etc. You need to know both. but i'd be more likely to heed the words of someone who had a lot of experience in the industry over some fresh college grad telling me about CRM and every other abbreviation they read out of their textbook.

The problem is that managers hire other managers. And if the fresh college grad can CRM and PPS and "other fancy buzzword acronym", while the technical guy who cares about his folks actually "gets it", the manager manager might be swayed by the buzzwords, and while technical manager spends all his time making things actually work, the buzzword whore spends most of his day figuring out how to screw the other managers at his level and cozy up to his/her own boss. You know the saying, "f*ck up - move up"

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Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	the fact of the matter is, people who buy muscle cars don't LOVE the part where they write the check. i feel like people who spend 100k plus on a sedan, on some level, like that part. i can totally see dropping a fat wad on an M3 or m5(not that i would). but spending more than that on a 750li, i just dont get it.