How A Pilot Refused A Full Body Scan And Now May Lose His Job

FL 4Motion · 11-22-2010, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

No, I wouldn't. There is a reason why they call it terrorism. When we let TSA get away with this crap, the terrorists win. There are much more effective methods than what they are doing. This is all window dressing. We need to actively profile passengers, like the Israelis do.

/\ agreed. the luggage already gets scanned and cleared pretty thouroughly. As far as individuals go, I saw we need more explosive sniffing dogs randomly going thru the airport w/their handlers. Have them walk up and down past the line of folks waiting to go thru the metal detectors. that dog if well trained, will be infinitely better at alerting to a threat than an xray machine manned by imbeciles.

I am totally against all these new security rules. There's a balance between freedom and security. We're way too far on the wrong end of the spectrum at this point.

Short of sneaking a big ol suicide vest onto a plane, what hte hell is one or a few terrorists with box cutters or knives, or even a gun going to to? there's a whole flight full of people, can't cut, shoot or kill everyone. Plus odds are an air marshal is on the flight too. Quite being sheeple, if some bastard gets up on a flight and yells alahua akbar, and starts waving a weapon, the guy next to him needs to just kill the mohterfucker. Too long the citizens of this country have taken their "rights and freedoms" for granted, it's time more folks take responsibility for the priviledge that being an american is and step up and defend it vs. waiting for someone else (ie. in this case the TSA) to do it for us.

PS--I think this country is doomed however and it makes me very sad...

We are rotting from the inside out and most people can't even see it, or choose to bury their head in the sand.

Psychosomatic · 11-22-2010, 09:51 PM

IMO bless every plane with pigs blood on its maiden voyage. Problem solved.

~Psycho

Pushing_Tin · 11-24-2010, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

not if you question everyone and treat everyone the same. The muslims are already screaming because they don't want their women subjected to pat downs, someone is always going to scream.

I guess I'm just not ready to give up liberty for security, and I fly the planes. Plus the TSAholes are idiots. As a crewmember, I am able to have liquids in my bags. Sometimes when I travel for leisure, and am not exempt, I forget to take them out. Its probably happened about 10 times, and not once have they even seen them or stopped me.

You do realize you cannot compare that amount of flights into our out of Israel to the USA right? Are you or others prepared to arrive at least 4 if not 6 or 8 hours early to facilitate extensive interviews? I don't think so. People already bitch and moan about 15 minutes in line.

Mike · 11-24-2010, 08:53 AM

so are you guys who are for this going to complain when one of these terrorists sticks explosives up his rectum and we all start getting body cavity searches? When does it end? What is your limit?

Mike · 11-24-2010, 08:55 AM

not related, but yesterday one of these TSAholes kidnapped a woman from the airport parking lot here in Atlanta, brought her to his house and raped her, then released her and attempted suicide. That is the quality of worker they hire.

jetguy · 11-24-2010, 09:20 AM

What? I thought the tsa are all ex-black ops agents or highly trained anti terror experts of some kind.

Mike · 11-24-2010, 09:36 AM

I feel much safer after this!

YouTube - TSA Molests 3 Year Old Child at Chattanooga Metro Airport

Carno · 11-24-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

Short of sneaking a big ol suicide vest onto a plane, what hte hell is one or a few terrorists with box cutters or knives, or even a gun going to to?

Are you ******* serious?

dad · 11-24-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

not related, but yesterday one of these TSAholes kidnapped a woman from the airport parking lot here in Atlanta, brought her to his house and raped her, then released her and attempted suicide. That is the quality of worker they hire.

Your trying to bury the quality of worker they hire because of a rape!
Soldiers rape, policemen rape, doctors rape, dentists rape, teachers rape!
Your statement about the quality of worker for the TSA is useless!

FL 4Motion · 11-26-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Carno

Are you ******* serious?

Yes, people die, it happens get over it. In my example, they can't kill or hurt everyone on the plane, the shear number of people on the plane could overwhelm a small group of terrorits, there'd be casualties, but the flight as a whole would not be doomed.

PapoZalsa · 11-27-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jetguy

What? I thought the tsa are all ex-black ops agents or highly trained anti terror experts of some kind.

They get like 8 hrs of training...just to check the people and carry-on. They don't have the training to profile any potential terrorist.

Carno · 11-27-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

Yes, people die, it happens get over it. In my example, they can't kill or hurt everyone on the plane, the shear number of people on the plane could overwhelm a small group of terrorits, there'd be casualties, but the flight as a whole would not be doomed.

What the **** are you talking about? Do you not know how the terrorists took control of those planes on September 11th or have you just forgotten?

FL 4Motion · 11-27-2010, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Carno

What the **** are you talking about? Do you not know how the terrorists took control of those planes on September 11th or have you just forgotten?

I'm well aware of what happened. Instead of attacking my opinion on the matter, pls elaborate, thanks.

theDreamer · 12-19-2010, 05:15 PM

Man passes through TSA security with loaded gun in carry-on bag, boards plane | abc13.com

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A person briefed on the latest tests tells ABC News the failure rate approaches 70 percent at some major airports. Two weeks ago, TSA's new director said every test gun, bomb part or knife got past screeners at some airports.

frost · 12-19-2010, 05:16 PM

TSA Gifts for You: Chlamydia, Gonorrhea & Lice | The Stir

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"These new scans are so horrible that if you are wearing something unusual (lie a piece of cloth on your panties) then you will be subjected to a search where a woman repeatedly has to check your "groin" while another woman watches on."

11-22-2010, 09:51 PM	#47 (permalink)
Psychosomatic Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 93 Drives: a car :) Rep Power: 16	IMO bless every plane with pigs blood on its maiden voyage. Problem solved. ~Psycho __________________ Who wears short shorts? I WEAR SHORT SHORTS!

11-24-2010, 08:53 AM	#49 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	so are you guys who are for this going to complain when one of these terrorists sticks explosives up his rectum and we all start getting body cavity searches? When does it end? What is your limit? __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

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Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	not related, but yesterday one of these TSAholes kidnapped a woman from the airport parking lot here in Atlanta, brought her to his house and raped her, then released her and attempted suicide. That is the quality of worker they hire. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

11-24-2010, 09:36 AM	#52 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	I feel much safer after this! YouTube - TSA Molests 3 Year Old Child at Chattanooga Metro Airport __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

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