I scored the big winner. Collector's edition #8888. Anyone Chinese knows why that's a win ^^

this is some TOP NOTCH BS. I tried to pre order my collectors edition a month ago at best buy and couldnt as they only pre order the regular game according to them. So i stop by earlier this afternoon,and surprise surprise,all the collectors editions are sold out. I am never going to best buy for my video games.:thumbsdown:

They probably ran out of the collector's edition when you went a month ago.
I know the best buy near my house only had 16 collector's editions.

Damn that sucks Miguel, Amazon has it in stock.

Thanks for the tip...Rather then wait a week or so for amazon...I'm going to jump on the base game tonight.Too many people I know have this game already...see you guys online! :driving:

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**** Xbox lmao... I say that now becuase I already beat Halo Reach and now want to play my other favorite game GT... But no ps3 :( I saw the trailers and this game looked awesome. Enjoy guys and gals.

Is anyone else dissapointed in this game? I'm only an hour or two in so this isn't all necessarily going to continue to be an issue but here are some things that bother me.

1: The AI - it drives its line and if your in it, too bad. It wil just run into you until your out of its way.

2: Disqualifications - Specifically the top gear test track special races. If you get slightly off course or bump another car your disqualified.

3: Stupid cars - VW Van, Toyota Prius and Nascar. WTF, who in their right mind would have any interest in racing those. Its just painful and boring.

4: Little to no feedback from the controller. Makes it really tuff to tell what your grip level is. I'm constantly understeering and oversteering because of loss of traction.

I'm hoping things get better when I get into F1 and rally. So far I have enjoyed Karting but thats about it.

1: The AI always has been and always will be a weak point for GT games. PD has shown no desire to make a real AI instead of its onrails racers. This can actually lead to soem laughs.

2: The DQs are annoying as well, but have also been a staple in special events. That's also how some races are in real life, so I just accept it.

3: There's always stupid cars, but I'd rather see them than 41 Skylines.

4: I haven't tried it with a controller, but the wheel provides plenty of realistic feedback.

My biggest complaint are the load times. They're pretty damn long in this game, but at least it doesn't have to reload every time you restart a race. I forget what game it was, but I remember one did, and that was a major pain.

I also don't like the way career mode navigation is done atm. I'll probably get used to it, but as is, the screen looks like a slick mess lol.

Finally, the car damage is a joke. They shouldn't have even put it in. Ramming cars at a 50+ mph differential only slightly dents your hood. You can still ride the walls, push cars out fo the way, and do every other shortcut without fear of any real penalties.

Are you using a premium car or a regular car?
Haven't even looked at the car damage myself. Been busy trying to do the Nurburgring Time Trial.

Premium car. Collisions feel like heavy bumper cars and produce very minimal damage. In fact, I had 3 pretty hard collisions just to see and would say it looked like i had a miner fender bender.

Bought the game, but didn't get to play yet.
I'll probably be just do some trials get some money and race online for the real fun.
Wheel should give plenty of feedback.

I got mine this morning. I love it, and of course as soon as I had enough credits I got the 370z. Strangely it comes with the Sports wheels but no spoiler, so I quickly fitted that. And some decent tires because the standard ones suck. It looks amazing in the game.

I'm kinda bummed I couldn't get a Collector's Edition though. I tried everywhere. What's the Apex book like?

I got the game as well yesterday morning. I finally got the 370Z also!

Mine has a rear spoiler. :)

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did you have to buy that spoiler or did it come with it? the one in the dealership doesnt have one.

I had to buy the spoiler. I was also surprised that it wasn't included, it should have been part of the sport package.

I think it lacks a spoiler because it is the JDM version.

Anyway after wasting all day yesterday on the game here are my thoughts ...

1. They fixed the control issues using the controller that I encountered during the 370z demo. I was worried it wouldn't be playable without a wheel, but it is fine.

2. The load times ... Ugh... The good thing is that some of the unresponsiveness during some of the screens is due to overloaded servers. The bad thing is that little to nothing is cached so to go back to the main GT screen from a select race category screen requires a reload ..

3. Very clunky UI/Menu system. 10 years out of date at least. Everything requires at least twice the number of button presses it should.

4. Only the "Premium" cars have a cockpit view. What's up with that. They could have given the standard cars some default cockpit -- Even GT for the PSP had a cockpit view for all cars.

None of these are game killers for me -- except if they don't get the server issue fixed -- waiting 2 minutes for the server call to time-out when loading the main screen sucks.

IGN's review commented that Forza's simulator focused on tire deformation during cornering and GT5's focuses on braking. This seems spot on. If I could sum up the difference between Forza 3 and GT5 is that Forza cars are tight and GT5 cars are loose.

Overall still a very fun game.

Not gonna lie...I'm a little let down. I've been playing this franchise since day one, and it's always been at the leading edge of driving/racing sim, but I feel that aside from the physics engine, it is no longer the best. It just seems unnecessarily convoluted and they are trying new tactics just for the sake of trying them. Leveling up? Cool in Final Fantasy. Not in Gran Turismo. :twocents:

Lol wut

I checked the description of the Z

it says it has a 6 speed automatic :roflpuke2:

I'm loving it.

i can put up with the small crap here and there, but the big thing that bothers me is the AI, it sucks so bad...... other than that, great game!

Who cares for AI, there are real people online... :)

Btw is everybody playing simulation mode?

Simulation modea as in the actual game??

As in the settings for the controller.

Simulation mode is only applicable if you are using a racing wheel. I'm using the standard controller. I thought about picking up a wheel for the game, but it would end up in the closet with my Xbox360 wheel -- It's basically a pain to set up and take down the wheel every time I want to play

How do you modify brakes????

You can adjust brake balance but you can't upgrade the brakes. You can access the front/rear balance settings in the "Tuning" portion of the garage.

Yea I saw that... WTF No break mods???? So I can have like a 90 Civic with 400HP and stock brakes???? Thats silly.

I don't know if the brakes remain stock ... They could automatically adjust braking power as power/weight changes. I really don't know, but on the few cars I've significantly upgraded I didn't notice poor brake performance relative to the power.

The braking dynamics are a big part of this game -- the screen shudders, you can get severe buckling if you brake while the car is unsettled, etc. So it seems weird to not have user adjustable brake mods ...

ive got the logitech driving force gt wheel, kicks major ***, gt just isnt the same without it or a comparable wheel.

I found me a '74 LP400 for under $100K but she's in need of a little TLC though. After changing the oil I found out the she need the engine to be overhauled which is going to cost me $64,500! After that, I'll need to spend another $108,000 in chassis maintenance, ouch!

When all is said and done I give her a new paint job, maybe red or yellow, and she'll be as good as new.


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After playing GT5 for a few days, I think Forza 3 is the technically superior game. It has better AI, more "Premium" cars, Brake mods, Tint, custom paint jobs and the physics seem more accurate. That said, Forza is a little too clinical and I'm having more fun racing in GT5. I think this is primarily due to GT5 allowing you to get a little sideways but keep your momentum up. In Forza once you get sideways it almost always results in understeer and loss of momentum. In this case the "Real Driving Simulator" has a little Mario Kart in it.

That Countach is a cool find!

I have to agree with how Forza outshine's GT5. The hole premium car thing to me is an embarassment. They are nice, but people like consistancy, and I'm not sure what kind of message people are getting with all the "features" in GT5.

The physics are definitely a weak spot too as far as the collision and damage is concerned. More than ever, it feels like the cars are bumper cars. Maybe its just me, but I feel like the collisions in GT3 felt more solid.

As for which game I'll ultimately enjoy more, only time will tell. Forza 3 lasted a good 3 months with me.

Anybody else feel like the 370z handles like dooky? It feels so heavy and it understeers very badly. Ive played with different tires, TC settings, ASM on/off, etc... but still, im very disappointed by the feel of the car.

Just a side note, I bought a 3000GT VR4 and did the sport exhaust, racing intake and soft sport tires... holy cow, what a beast, very fun car, even for its size, which makes me all the more mad about the Z.

I fully tuned mine, but mine drives as a beast. I use it in the super car league... :tup:

You should have just bought the Gallardo LP560 -- I got mine 250K + an oil change and a few bolt-ons later I'm at Murcielago numbers -- 661HP. Then I got the '74 LP400 gifted after winning the Lamborghini Exclusive.

yeah, im gonna buy another and tune the crap out of it, but in stock form with just better tires...:icon14:

I didn't know the the LP400 was a prize car for that race. Oh well.

I didn't have the money to buy the Gallardo anyways.

I was really looking forward to Forza but I just couldn't get into it - and I really don't know why. It just... felt so generic. And I really hated how the in-game car models were greatly downgraded versions of the ones you see on the menu. So in a way, there are NO premium cars in Forza. In-game, I think GT kills it with the look of its (high-detail) cars.

I also feel like the GT handling is the closest to believable (with the exception of a few cars here and there - anyone played the Top Gear challenge with the Elise? Psh - WAY too slippery), and although the crashes aren't perfect nothing beats Burnout Paradise for that anyway. And Forza doesn't have GT's... charm. It's a classy game - I love all that chilled lounge music in the classy-looking menus.

And for those of you not happy with the damage, give it time:

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