I had to buy the spoiler. I was also surprised that it wasn't included, it should have been part of the sport package.

I think it lacks a spoiler because it is the JDM version.

Anyway after wasting all day yesterday on the game here are my thoughts ...

1. They fixed the control issues using the controller that I encountered during the 370z demo. I was worried it wouldn't be playable without a wheel, but it is fine.

2. The load times ... Ugh... The good thing is that some of the unresponsiveness during some of the screens is due to overloaded servers. The bad thing is that little to nothing is cached so to go back to the main GT screen from a select race category screen requires a reload ..

3. Very clunky UI/Menu system. 10 years out of date at least. Everything requires at least twice the number of button presses it should.

4. Only the "Premium" cars have a cockpit view. What's up with that. They could have given the standard cars some default cockpit -- Even GT for the PSP had a cockpit view for all cars.

None of these are game killers for me -- except if they don't get the server issue fixed -- waiting 2 minutes for the server call to time-out when loading the main screen sucks.

IGN's review commented that Forza's simulator focused on tire deformation during cornering and GT5's focuses on braking. This seems spot on. If I could sum up the difference between Forza 3 and GT5 is that Forza cars are tight and GT5 cars are loose.

Overall still a very fun game.

Not gonna lie...I'm a little let down. I've been playing this franchise since day one, and it's always been at the leading edge of driving/racing sim, but I feel that aside from the physics engine, it is no longer the best. It just seems unnecessarily convoluted and they are trying new tactics just for the sake of trying them. Leveling up? Cool in Final Fantasy. Not in Gran Turismo. :twocents:

Lol wut

I checked the description of the Z

it says it has a 6 speed automatic :roflpuke2:

I'm loving it.

i can put up with the small crap here and there, but the big thing that bothers me is the AI, it sucks so bad...... other than that, great game!

Who cares for AI, there are real people online... :)

Btw is everybody playing simulation mode?

Simulation modea as in the actual game??

As in the settings for the controller.

Simulation mode is only applicable if you are using a racing wheel. I'm using the standard controller. I thought about picking up a wheel for the game, but it would end up in the closet with my Xbox360 wheel -- It's basically a pain to set up and take down the wheel every time I want to play

How do you modify brakes????

You can adjust brake balance but you can't upgrade the brakes. You can access the front/rear balance settings in the "Tuning" portion of the garage.

Yea I saw that... WTF No break mods???? So I can have like a 90 Civic with 400HP and stock brakes???? Thats silly.

I don't know if the brakes remain stock ... They could automatically adjust braking power as power/weight changes. I really don't know, but on the few cars I've significantly upgraded I didn't notice poor brake performance relative to the power.

The braking dynamics are a big part of this game -- the screen shudders, you can get severe buckling if you brake while the car is unsettled, etc. So it seems weird to not have user adjustable brake mods ...

ive got the logitech driving force gt wheel, kicks major ***, gt just isnt the same without it or a comparable wheel.