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FuszNissan 04-07-2010 09:54 AM

U.S. Says Toyota Broke The Law
 
U.S. May Fine Toyota $16.4 million. This should get interesting.

U.S. says Toyota broke the law - STLtoday.com

j.arnaldo 04-07-2010 10:18 AM

Open wide for Ford, GM & Chrysler, 'cause here they come!

efuseakay 04-07-2010 10:45 AM

$16.4m is a drop in the hat for Toy Yoda.

Lug 04-07-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by efuseakay (Post 484936)
$16.4m is a drop in the hat for Toy Yoda.

It's a record as the highest fine ever issued. Toyota was late in reporting. I somehow don't think this is anywhere near the equivilent of what Chevy did with the side saddle gas tanks or Ford with the exploding pinto.

SiXK 04-07-2010 12:20 PM

heh, the US govt. who practically owns GM after investing heavily in the automaker to save it from certain bankruptcy, is levying record fines against Toyota.

I am not asserting that the govt is doing anything unethical, because I don't know. (But I would not doubt it.)

I am just saying you don't have to look far for the appearance of a conflict of interest.

zmyride 04-07-2010 12:26 PM

US Gov fines Toyota for $16M is like the NBA fines Kobe Bryant, LeBron, or Shaq $3000 for making unruly comments about the officials.

The players just write a check for another $3000 and donate to their favorite charity.

Zsteve 04-07-2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 484889)
U.S. May Fine Toyota $16.4 million. This should get interesting.

U.S. says Toyota broke the law - STLtoday.com

well they did kill some people and hurt others with their known failed stuff.

FuszNissan 04-07-2010 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LSUTurboTiger (Post 485058)
heh, the US govt. who practically owns GM after investing heavily in the automaker to save it from certain bankruptcy, is levying record fines against Toyota.

I am not asserting that the govt is doing anything unethical, because I don't know. (But I would not doubt it.)

I am just saying you don't have to look far for the appearance of a conflict of interest.

:iagree:

You have the President of the US that is backed by the UAW, and own GM...lol.

It's a joke. Oh well Toyota will get through it.

370Zsteve 04-07-2010 12:29 PM

$16 mill, big deal.

I still say 99.99% of these 'incidents' are complete BS just like the housewife in NY whose 'black box' showed she was mashing the accelerator pedal and not the brake pedal. Most people are stupid.

kenchan 04-07-2010 12:29 PM

toyota broke the law by selling crap like yaris which has no toyota quality.

Zsteve 04-07-2010 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 485083)
$16 mill, big deal.

I still say 99.99% of these 'incidents' are complete BS just like the housewife in NY whose 'black box' showed she was mashing the accelerator pedal and not the brake pedal. Most people are stupid.

That one where the cop saw the guys tires burning up from putting the brakes on and the cop having to get in front of him to stop him must be that .01%. And we dont know what that blkack box actually says as Toyota wont let anyone but them look at it. Why cuz it would prove they can see whats wrong and did nothing till peopole got hurt or killed. But this is what all car companies do, they say no till they are proven wrong.

efuseakay 04-07-2010 01:22 PM

That guy. He's only out for $. The dude is several hundred thousand in debt. The national news showed the rotors and pads. No way he was standing on the brakes like he claimed.

dad 04-07-2010 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 485076)
:iagree:

It's a joke. Oh well Toyota will get through it.

There are people who will now, never even consider buying a Toyota!

Will insurance companies even cover the Toyota models that have issues?

theDreamer 04-07-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 485249)
There are people who will now, never even consider buying a Toyota!

Will insurance companies even cover the Toyota models that have issues?

You are joking right?
Insurance companies will insure anything, but might raise the rates on those vehicles for a short time period which I even doubt. People are still buying Toyota's, why?, because they are smart enough to understand BS from the media and real issues.

mrsleepy1225 04-07-2010 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 485254)
You are joking right?
Insurance companies will insure anything, but might raise the rates on those vehicles for a short time period which I even doubt. People are still buying Toyota's, why?, because they are smart enough to understand BS from the media and real issues.

:iagree:

Thank You, an Intellectual. =)

Vegitto-kun 04-07-2010 01:38 PM

I personally think the whole toyota thing is ********. most of the times the people that get into the news end up being people who didn't even use their brakes.

and seriously. neutral? turning off the engine?

Zsteve 04-07-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by efuseakay (Post 485239)
That guy. He's only out for $. The dude is several hundred thousand in debt. The national news showed the rotors and pads. No way he was standing on the brakes like he claimed.

must of had smoke bombs on his wheels.

PapoZalsa 04-07-2010 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 485254)
You are joking right?
Insurance companies will insure anything, but might raise the rates on those vehicles for a short time period which I even doubt. People are still buying Toyota's, why?, because they are smart enough to understand BS from the media and real issues.

Yes Toyota has liablity for those issues.

However, I have a 07 RAV4 with ZERO porblems in the past 3 yrs. I will not have a problem buying another Toyota. Plus my first new car was a Toyota Corolla SR5.

But I hope my insurance doesn't go up just because is a Toyota.

mrsleepy1225 04-07-2010 08:56 PM

The only toyotas that have problems if any, are the ones that are made here in the states =(

Anatoray 04-07-2010 10:21 PM

IF this goes through, it could lead to a whole new slew of lawsuits against Toyota by people with "claims" of this defect.

FuszNissan 04-08-2010 09:17 AM

^^ If it gets to that point you may see a New Name appear.

370Zsteve 04-08-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 485103)
That one where the cop saw the guys tires burning up from putting the brakes on and the cop having to get in front of him to stop him must be that .01%. And we dont know what that blkack box actually says as Toyota wont let anyone but them look at it. Why cuz it would prove they can see whats wrong and did nothing till peopole got hurt or killed. But this is what all car companies do, they say no till they are proven wrong.

The black box data was looked at by the cops. The data showed she was accelerating, no doubt she thought she had her foot on the brakes. :shakes head:

The guy in Cali was also proven to be full of BS. Black box data proved he was using both the accelerator and the brakes. Dude is nothing more than an adult Balloon Boy. Feds reviewed black box data. And apparently the cop did not get in front of him as originally stated, er, hyped.

The whole thing is media hyped nonsense. Just like Audi 5000's back in the 80's. I bought a nice chunk of Toyota stock at 71 at the height of the media frenzy. I'm happy. :tup:

WhiskeyHotel 04-08-2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 486532)
The whole thing is media hyped nonsense. Just like Audi 5000's back in the 80's. I bought a nice chunk of Toyota stock at 71 at the height of the media frenzy. I'm happy. :tup:

:iagree:

Let's analyze the actual data we have and ignore the government and media talking heads for once.

mrsleepy1225 04-08-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyHotel (Post 486580)
:iagree:

Let's analyze the actual data we have and ignore the government and media talking heads for once.


:iagree:

FuszNissan 04-08-2010 10:48 AM

The one guy that drove his into a wall had Toyota hate websites...lol


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