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antennahead 03-16-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 449952)
Rofl, don't listen to him smooth, I need rep like a fat man needs twinkies. :bowrofl:

:bowrofl: :roflpuke2:

Jl lE lM 03-17-2010 10:52 AM

I got it yesterday and mailed it today. There was a "rumor" going out that if you dont fill it out and mail it, then you get a huge fine of $5K. Just a rumor...

semtex 03-17-2010 11:16 AM

I just got mine. I'm debating between answering questions 1 and 2 and leaving the rest blank. Or filling the rest out with bogus info. Like my name, for instance. I'm tempted to fill that in with Kim Jong Il.

antman22 03-17-2010 11:20 AM

haven't received mine yet. i got that letter in the mail last week informing me that i would get one. i wonder if they had a meeting to prepare for the meeting that would go over the logistics for sending out the letter informing folks that they'd get another letter.

gotta love how they spend our tax dollars.

frost 03-17-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jl lE lM (Post 450642)
I got it yesterday and mailed it today. There was a "rumor" going out that if you dont fill it out and mail it, then you get a huge fine of $5K. Just a rumor...

The wording says something like "A fine up to $5,000."
However, according to what I've been reading through googling, they have never enforced this "law" and aren't even setup with guidelines as to how to enforce this and who would do it. According to what I'm reading, it's all empty threats.

Someone should file a suit against the government for encouraging illigil immigrants to fill it out, which in my mind is encouraging people to continue breaking the law.

As far as I'm concerned, even if I filled it out (which I HIGHLY doubt) due to my beliefs they don't have any businesses in my personal business, I'll tell them how many people live in my house, and that's about it.

frost 03-17-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by antman22 (Post 450675)
gotta love how they spend our tax dollars.

11.3 billion spent on this census, which according to the radio equates to $50 for every single individual in the US. The most expensive in history and one of the lowest times in America. I'm voting against everyone currently in office in the next election to (attempt) to show them that Americans are tired of this kind of garbage.

Chupacabra 03-17-2010 11:50 AM

how the hell would they know who filled it out and who didn't?

I got it yesterday, but I am debating on the whole filling out part.

semtex 03-17-2010 11:54 AM

I'm going to fill in my name as Elvis.

dad 03-17-2010 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chupacabra (Post 450731)
how the hell would they know who filled it out and who didn't?

I got it yesterday, but I am debating on the whole filling out part.

There is a bar code on it, it probably states your address!

dad 03-17-2010 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 450718)
11.3 billion spent on this census, which according to the radio equates to $50 for every single individual in the US. The most expensive in history and one of the lowest times in America. I'm voting against everyone currently in office in the next election to (attempt) to show them that Americans are tired of this kind of garbage.

Same here, vote them out! It's time for some younger blood! These old fu@kers that have been in office for 20 and 40 years need to be voted out!

Hell, the president can only serve two terms, they need the same terms!

semtex 03-17-2010 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 450783)
There is a bar code on it, it probably states your address!

Plus your address is printed right on the form.

jayhuffdaddy 03-17-2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jl lE lM (Post 450642)
I got it yesterday and mailed it today. There was a "rumor" going out that if you dont fill it out and mail it, then you get a huge fine of $5K. Just a rumor...

Not a rumor, that is on the census website as one of the FAQ'S. Don't think that would ever happen though. Just a scare tactic.

11. What happens if I don’t respond?
Although the law makes it a crime not to answer the decennial census, the American Community Survey and other mandatory censuses, and authorizes the courts to impose a fine of up to $5,000 for failure to respond, the Census Bureau views this approach as a last resort. Rather than emphasizing or seeking the imposition of penalties, we encourage response by explaining
the importance of the questions we ask and how the information benefits
the community.

Jl lE lM 03-17-2010 12:53 PM

Cool, thanks for the confirmation. I never actually saw it my myself. Thats just what I heard.

j.arnaldo 03-17-2010 02:18 PM

Money allocations by population, gender, age, etc., I guess.

semtex 03-17-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by j.arnaldo (Post 450918)
Money allocations by population, gender, age, etc., I guess.

AKA the redistribution of wealth.

antennahead 03-17-2010 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 450718)
11.3 billion spent on this census, which according to the radio equates to $50 for every single individual in the US. The most expensive in history and one of the lowest times in America. I'm voting against everyone currently in office in the next election to (attempt) to show them that Americans are tired of this kind of garbage.

. and there's the problem with big government, no way it should cost $50 a citizen to administer this, but that's the way of every gov't. program, most of the revenue goes to paying the gov't. employees who administer it, and very little makes it to the person or project for which it's intended.......... pathetic!!!

frost 03-17-2010 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 451080)
AKA the redistribution of wealth.

<cough>reparations<cough>

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Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 451376)
. and there's the problem with big government, no way it should cost $50 a citizen to administer this, but that's the way of every gov't. program, most of the revenue goes to paying the gov't. employees who administer it, and very little makes it to the person or project for which it's intended.......... pathetic!!!

The government should contract out almost everything, because everything the government does cost WAY more than what it should because of the bureaucracy.

SmoothZ 03-17-2010 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 449952)
Rofl, don't listen to him smooth, I need rep like a fat man needs twinkies. :bowrofl:

:icon18:
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Originally Posted by Jl lE lM (Post 450642)
I got it yesterday and mailed it today. There was a "rumor" going out that if you dont fill it out and mail it, then you get a huge fine of $5K. Just a rumor...

I heard waterboarding...
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Originally Posted by frost (Post 450710)
Someone should file a suit against the government for encouraging illigil immigrants to fill it out, which in my mind is encouraging people to continue breaking the law.

It costs the govt a lot more than $50 per illegal to put them through the system... so the libs like to throw money at them instead so they can eventually become voters. Crazy.

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 450795)
Same here, vote them out! It's time for some younger blood! These old fu@kers that have been in office for 20 and 40 years need to be voted out!

Hell, the president can only serve two terms, they need the same terms!

Those veteran politicians are doing a fine job of breaking the law and causing one scandal after another, thereby checking themselves out of the office. I just wish there was a faster way to get rid of them if we're not happy with their job.

SmoothZ 03-17-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 451585)
<cough>reparations<cough>



The government should contract out almost everything, because everything the government does cost WAY more than what it should because of the bureaucracy.

You're hurting my feewings. :(

frost 03-17-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ (Post 451649)
You're hurting my feewings. :(

:icon18: Doesn't count of I'm a government worker too :roflpuke2:

SmoothZ 03-17-2010 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 451813)
:icon18: Doesn't count of I'm a government worker too :roflpuke2:

Then we can drown our sorrows together. I'm drinking right NOW!

dad 04-01-2010 12:44 PM

Poll: Close to 9 in 10 Latinos to fill out census





WASHINGTON – What boycott? Close to 9 in 10 Hispanics say they intend to participate in the 2010 census, with immigrants more likely to say the government count is good for their community and that personal information will be kept confidential, according to a new poll.

The Pew Hispanic Center survey, released Thursday, appears largely to put aside concerns that Hispanic discontent with the government's slow progress on immigration reform will curtail participation in the high-stakes count now under way. The National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders had suggested a Hispanic boycott of the census to protest the lack of action on immigration.

Hispanics, who make up roughly 15 percent of the nation's population, still tend to lag behind other racial groups when it comes to mailing in census forms. But the latest survey suggests the numbers may be improving and that, contrary to conventional notions, the hardest-to-reach may not be fearful immigrants but rather disenchanted Hispanics born in the U.S.

The findings come as 52 percent of U.S. households had sent in their 10-question census forms leading into the April 1 "Census Day" on Thursday. To mark the occasion, the White House said President Barack Obama had filled out and turned in a census form for his multigenerational family, which includes his daughters Malia and Sasha and mother-in law Marian Robinson. The White House didn't immediately respond to questions about how Obama, the child of a white mother and a black father, had identified his race.

Census Bureau director Robert Groves this week also was urging several regions of the U.S. to step up their response. They include five states with higher shares of minority or indigenous populations that ranked at the bottom in participation: Alaska, New Mexico, Louisiana, New York and Texas, each with participation rates of 41-46 percent.

"We are ignoring the native-born Latino population," said Arturo Vargas, executive director of the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials, noting that a similar pattern is seen in Hispanic voting. "There is a sense of optimism that immigrants bring to this country, while people who have been here for generations have a certain sense of being beaten down and disengaged, whether by the cycle of poverty, or unemployment, or discrimination."

"So that becomes our hardest challenge — motivating the native-born to engage in U.S. society," he said.

Mark Hugo Lopez, associate director of the Pew Hispanic Center, attributed immigrants' positive views of the census partly to aggressive outreach by advocacy groups and Spanish-language media such as the Spanish-language Univision television network. The Census Bureau, which mailed out Spanish-English bilingual forms for the first time this year, also spent more than $25 million in advertising targeted primarily at the Hispanic community.

"Spanish speakers and the foreign-born were more likely to receive pro-census messages, which were more likely to influence whether they have a positive view," Lopez said.

Overall, about 85 percent of Hispanics say they already have sent in their census form or definitely will do so, up from 65 percent in early March. But among immigrants, the rate increases to 91 percent, compared to 78 percent for U.S.-born Hispanics. In 2000, the mail participation rate among Hispanics was roughly 69 percent.

There were similar disparities when Hispanics were asked about the role of the census.

About 80 percent of foreign-born Hispanics said they believe the census is good for their community, often citing the principle that every person should be counted, or that it helps with school funding. But among U.S.-born Hispanics, that number drops to 57 percent.

Hispanic immigrants also were more likely to believe the Census Bureau's promise that it won't share data with other federal agencies, including law enforcement, at 80 percent compared to 66 percent for U.S.-born Latinos.

The differences were evident even though Hispanic immigrants were more than twice as likely to have seen or heard something discouraging them from participating, such as the recent boycott call by the National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders. Still, only about 16 percent of Hispanics overall reported hearing such messages.

This week, the Census Bureau will send out replacement census forms to areas of the U.S. that traditionally have seen lower response rates. It also will decide whether and how to spend up to $7 million of its reserve fund on additional census advertising for areas with particularly low participation. So far, the bureau has spent a total of $133 million on ads.

The Census Bureau will continue to accept mailed-in forms through most of April and is striving to match, if not surpass, mail participation rates in 2000 of 72 percent. The bureau estimates that for every percentage point increase in the mail participation rate, the government saves about $85 million in follow-up costs.

From May until July, it will send more than 600,000 census-takers to each home that doesn't reply by mail, which also can sometimes lead to more inaccurate responses. The population count, conducted every 10 years, is used to distribute U.S. House seats and more than $400 billion in federal aid.

The study was conducted for the Pew Hispanic Center by SSRS/ICR, an independent research company, which interviewed 1,003 Hispanic adults by cell or home phone from March 16-25.

Poll: Close to 9 in 10 Latinos to fill out census - Yahoo! News

PapoZalsa 04-01-2010 03:48 PM

I got a second Census today, I already filled out mine. Waste of paper and money!

BanningZ 04-01-2010 04:20 PM

Yup filled out and sent. I don't need people banging on my door for up to 6 times.

Mize 04-01-2010 04:27 PM

You guys are hysterical!

A few points:

1. The Census is mandated by the Constitution
2. Throughout the USA's entire history the courts have always ruled that Congress can ask more than "how many"
3. There are no questions about income - so how do they use it to redistribute income again?
4. They do use it to allocate Federal funds for:
- roads
- police grants
- fire dept grants
- infrastructure like new roads, bridges and reservoirs
5. If you're of the paranoid ilk you probably don't like 4 anyway because all those things - and our Military - are SOCIALIZED!!:eek:

But please, if you live anywhere near me, fill it out; I don't want to bend a rim on a paranoia-induced pothole!

As for privatizing everything, no thanks. The US used to have private fire departments where you had to buy insurance, no insurance and your house burned down. It didn't work so well.

Want to privatize the military? No thanks. Lots of military in my family past and present and they're head and shoulders better than Blackwater Mercenaries. Just give my nephews better armor, okay?

BanningZ 04-01-2010 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mize (Post 476980)
You guys are hysterical!

A few points:

1. The Census is mandated by the Constitution
2. Throughout the USA's entire history the courts have always ruled that Congress can ask more than "how many"
3. There are no questions about income - so how do they use it to redistribute income again?
4. They do use it to allocate Federal funds for:
- roads
- police grants
- fire dept grants
- infrastructure like new roads, bridges and reservoirs
5. If you're of the paranoid ilk you probably don't like 4 anyway because all those things - and our Military - are SOCIALIZED!!:eek:

But please, if you live anywhere near me, fill it out; I don't want to bend a rim on a paranoia-induced pothole!


As for privatizing everything, no thanks. The US used to have private fire departments where you had to buy insurance, no insurance and your house burned down. It didn't work so well.

Want to privatize the military? No thanks. Lots of military in my family past and present and they're head and shoulders better than Blackwater Mercenaries. Just give my nephews better armor, okay?

Win for reason!

frost 04-01-2010 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mize (Post 476980)
You guys are hysterical!

A few points:

1. The Census is mandated by the Constitution
2. Throughout the USA's entire history the courts have always ruled that Congress can ask more than "how many"
3. There are no questions about income - so how do they use it to redistribute income again?
4. They do use it to allocate Federal funds for:
- roads
- police grants
- fire dept grants
- infrastructure like new roads, bridges and reservoirs
5. If you're of the paranoid ilk you probably don't like 4 anyway because all those things - and our Military - are SOCIALIZED!!:eek:

But please, if you live anywhere near me, fill it out; I don't want to bend a rim on a paranoia-induced pothole!

As for privatizing everything, no thanks. The US used to have private fire departments where you had to buy insurance, no insurance and your house burned down. It didn't work so well.

Want to privatize the military? No thanks. Lots of military in my family past and present and they're head and shoulders better than Blackwater Mercenaries. Just give my nephews better armor, okay?

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Originally Posted by BanningZ (Post 476988)
Win for reason!

What's my race, age, phone number, and etc have to do with filling potholes again?
I'm more than happy to give them a headcount so they can keep parks open and fill your potholes.

antennahead 04-01-2010 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 477340)
What's my race, age, phone number, and etc have to do with filling potholes again?
I'm more than happy to give them a headcount so they can keep parks open and fill your potholes.

A little too much big brotha if you ask me :p

dad 04-01-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 477353)
A little too much big brotha if you ask me :p

Noooooooooooooo! We won't give your information to any one. It's against the law!
"Did they forget about the Patriot Act, the Act that rules out all laws!

antennahead 04-01-2010 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 477419)
Noooooooooooooo! We won't give your information to any one. It's against the law!
"Did they forget about the Patriot Act, the Act that rules out all laws!

:p

Mize 04-01-2010 09:57 PM

Hey, I'm not keen on the personal information either, but to claim it's un-American when they've been doing it since 1790 when the SCOTUS ruled it within Congress' power is a bit silly. I have no problem with contesting that part of the Census and I think the Patriot Act is fundamentally unconstitutional.

That said, until someone challenges the ethnicity/personal crap and wins, the law is fill it out or you get more potholes.


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