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Old 09-15-2023, 08:12 PM   #1741 (permalink)
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Nope, expect car prices to go up even further.

The Good: Not all automakers are affected by the strike and only pertains to the American car manufacturers. Most foreign automakers are not unionized, so this wouldn't apply to them, though they could possibly capitalize on this.

The Bad: Expect for car prices to continue to rise on top of already inflated pricing. Car prices have elevated due to supply shortages and this shortage will only get worse. Keep in mind that semiconductors require Neon gas to be produced, and 70% of the global supply comes from Ukraine, which is currently fighting a war, so there is a good chance they are not focused on Neon gas production.

The Ugly: Expect for elevated car prices to stay inflated, paired with elevated interest rates. Unless you are paying cash, you are paying alot more to borrow only for less value/buying power.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/15/busin...uaw/index.html

"Buying a car? What the UAW strike means – and doesn’t mean – for auto sales"
The Rouge's lease is up in June. I have a $30,000 buyout. Will have about 15,000 miles on it then. I'm curious how this is going to play out.

Will they give me more for it? Will $30,000 be a bargain and I buy it? I hate the unknown...
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Nope, expect car prices to go up even further.

The Good: Not all automakers are affected by the strike and only pertains to the American car manufacturers. Most foreign automakers are not unionized, so this wouldn't apply to them, though they could possibly capitalize on this.

The Bad: Expect for car prices to continue to rise on top of already inflated pricing. Car prices have elevated due to supply shortages and this shortage will only get worse. Keep in mind that semiconductors require Neon gas to be produced, and 70% of the global supply comes from Ukraine, which is currently fighting a war, so there is a good chance they are not focused on Neon gas production.

The Ugly: Expect for elevated car prices to stay inflated, paired with elevated interest rates. Unless you are paying cash, you are paying alot more to borrow only for less value/buying power.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/15/busin...uaw/index.html

"Buying a car? What the UAW strike means – and doesn’t mean – for auto sales"
I can’t help but think this strike has something to do with EV’s. Rusty just quoted that it takes 40% less time to make them. That’s a lot of man hours lost forever.
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The Rouge's lease is up in June. I have a $30,000 buyout. Will have about 15,000 miles on it then. I'm curious how this is going to play out.

Will they give me more for it? Will $30,000 be a bargain and I buy it? I hate the unknown...
Did you only do a year lease? Seems like you JUST sold the Z and got the Rogue.

And I'm curious about this as well. Never leased a car before and wondering how this would all work.
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I can’t help but think this strike has something to do with EV’s. Rusty just quoted that it takes 40% less time to make them. That’s a lot of man hours lost forever.
We, as a society, are not ready yet to simply switch over completely to EV. Too many wrinkles to iron out. I'm sure it will get phased in, but over time.

People, IMO, also are not ready to completely switch over.

https://www.fox13news.com/news/heres...ectric-vehicle

"A Florida lawmaker has introduced a bill that would require electric vehicle owners in the state to pay extra fees when renewing their vehicle registration."

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https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/15/econo...ber/index.html

"Despite rising gas prices, Americans feel more optimistic about inflation’s future"

Holy sh!t people, make up your minds! One day, everyone is feeling optimistic, the next day, they are worried.
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I can’t help but think this strike has something to do with EV’s. Rusty just quoted that it takes 40% less time to make them. That’s a lot of man hours lost forever.
The strike will lead to more automation on the line resulting in fewer jobs. Just seen in California where a bill is awaiting the governor's signature. It will raise the fast food workers wage to $20.00 an hour, plus a few other thing in the bill will raise the cost. This will lead to more automation in Micky D's. Leading to fewer jobs.
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Did you only do a year lease? Seems like you JUST sold the Z and got the Rogue.

And I'm curious about this as well. Never leased a car before and wondering how this would all work.
18 Month lease. Got it the end of Dec last year.

The only thing I’m sure of is dealer will try to screw me.
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The strike will lead to more automation on the line resulting in fewer jobs. Just seen in California where a bill is awaiting the governor's signature. It will raise the fast food workers wage to $20.00 an hour, plus a few other thing in the bill will raise the cost. This will lead to more automation in Micky D's. Leading to fewer jobs.
My wife and I were talking about that last night. $20 an hour to flip burgers is a damn good gig! Sign us up!

I was an offset printing press operator. Made a good living until technology made us obsolete. It doesn’t take skill to push a big green PRINT button.
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We, as a society, are not ready yet to simply switch over completely to EV. Too many wrinkles to iron out. I'm sure it will get phased in, but over time.

People, IMO, also are not ready to completely switch over.

https://www.fox13news.com/news/heres...ectric-vehicle

"A Florida lawmaker has introduced a bill that would require electric vehicle owners in the state to pay extra fees when renewing their vehicle registration."

I couldn’t switch to an EV if I wanted to. I have 200 amp service coming in and not a breaker space to add.

I can’t imagine what it would cost to upgrade my service and add a new breaker box.

Comes with living in the sticks.
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