For sure, in equal measures conservative and liberal too. I’ll say it again for the xxxx time, it’s never been about left or right, it’s the 99% vs the 1%.

Bipolar reps have been delivered. :tiphat:

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how are you man?

Definitely agree about not being taxpayer funded, I view it as a medical procedure up to a point in most cases and someone’s elective medical procedures should be self funded.

As far as not being a constitutional right, no it’s not explicitly stated as a right in the constitution vis a vis firearms, speech etc. But, it imo falls under being an unenumerated right ie it’s a right guaranteed in the constitution not explicitly stated but in order for someone to have personal freedom it is covered.

We all reasonably expect that we have autonomy over our bodies and medical care as adults. That’s not explicitly stated in the constitution but it’s not a stretch to say it is covered by the same, can’t have life, liberty and the persuit of happiness if someone else forces or denies you medical care that you can pay for.

The military is the same way unfortunately.

One of the biggest reasons our foreign policy has been such a clusterfvxk so often is our arrogance and inability to look at issues from the other’s perspective. Kinda gives you some insight into why our politics are so fvcked up too eh? :)

I talked about this before on here, you can restore American manufacturing and then we all pay higher costs to offset higher production costs incurred.

Unfortunately average peoples salaries have been declining since the 70s so since our purchasing power is eroded we notice increased manufacturing costs more (inflationary).

Or, we can make our sh1t in China, India, etc and have cheap goods that help people ignore/forget wages have not been increasing for the majority of Americans fairly for the last 50 years but that money has gone to the csuite, stock values and executive compensation at our expense.

You can’t have it both ways.

We have a two party system. Yes, technically there can be as many parties as we want but the political system almost from the get go was designed around two. So that’s where the money goes and ergo the power.

A two party system reduces choice but also increases stability, look at the cluster Fvck that coalition parliamentary systems deal with, we avoid that. (Israel, Spain for example).

Each party has a primary season where various candidates vie for the nomination of their respective party to represent them in the general election. Only registered voters (citizens) of that particular party can vote for a nominee. The contests are held in a handful of predetermined States at different times and you get points (delegates) when you win that state so when the Party’s convention happens later on, we know who the nominee of each respective party will be. Historically, the incumbent president automatically gets his party’s nomination.

Because a limited number of states and within them, a limited number of voters pick the nominee, the contestants (politicians) cater to only a small extreme right or left agenda/group to clinch the nomination and historically, then try to convince the general population in the general election that they didn’t really mean all those extreme things while winking at the extremists who got them nominated to reassure them that they actually did.

Yeah, it’s pretty fvcked up. :ughdance:

Surviving and about to eat dinner. :tiphat:

what's for dinner kin folk?

This thread has turned into a dumpster fire. :mad:

I've brought out the firehose and will try to save it.

I've started with an example member and if it continues I'll move on to someone else that continues with the political posts after my last warning.

Please take those discussion or comments elsewhere.

I personally don't care what side of the fence your on.

This is not the place for it. especially in the public off topic section.

And having to see the treatment of fellow members towards each other is also disappointing.

I'll be taking more action if members can't seem to remember to be respectful.

Have a good weekend and stay cool and hydrated. It's Hot even in Cali. :ugh2:

Wifey made bowl of organic brown rice, broccoli, organic baked chicken breast and peas.

Dessert was some pineapple. :yum:

If it’s not obvious, we’re eating healthy round here. :tup:

Let’s act like adults please.
 

/\ I know I enjoy and have participated/started conversations around politics and other hot button issues, BUT, I have also done my best to keep things respectful and not personally attack anyone or harass or troll others.

I don’t understand why this seems to be so hard for some folks on here. I for one enjoy a vigorous and even heated debate, it’s not hard to NOT get personal about it.

I’m old enough to remember there was a time in this country, only a decade and a half or two ago when someone’s political leanings didn’t factor into whether you were friends with them and whether or not you considered them a good person or not.

How about we try being a bit more understanding and patient with each other and less trolling, personal insults etc.

I was excited some new “old” members cam back to hang out and then understandably they left cause some folks here treated them with disrespect and trolled them. Come on y’all, we can be better. :mad:

Oh for gods sakes. It has nothing to do with female. Stop ghosting. Please.

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I’ll move on. Maybe Trips won’t delete my account. Lol.

My apologies for rocking the boat. :tiphat: