Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4046707)

I keep logs of each cut/bulk phases and goes back about 10 years. Whether I cut from a clean or dirty bulk, the misery is almost the same. The most recent cut phase was a bit more difficult because my only source of carbs came from fruits/veggies and cut out anything processed, whereas before I would incorporate rice cakes/wheat bread.

I've noticed that a clean bulk takes me twice as long to get the gains I target, though there are pro's/con's to both types of bulking. For my particular goals, a clean bulk would have meant eating about 6 meals a day (and for a longer duration), whereas a dirty bulk meant less meals with more calories and hitting my macro's. I also saw a pattern of being able lift more weight and with more reps/sets on a dirty bulk than clean.

In regards to age and metabolism, there has been many new studies that a person's metabolism doesn't start to decline until the 60's. Perhaps it's different for each individual person, but looking back at my records, my calorie surplus/deficit for bulking/cutting have been consistent so far.

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...than-you-think

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 4046715)

Quick public service announcement:

Kids, don’t forget:

If you’re into Nissan Motorsports, your a fan of nismos

But,

If you’re into Honda Motorsports, you’re a fan of homos.

:tiphat:

Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 4046724)

ok, confused, on this, since I own both a 370Z and a type-R, what does that make me nismos-homos?

Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 4046725)

Besides that welcome to Monday
the 80s are gone and back to the work week
enjoy
:)

Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 4046724)

ok, confused, on this, since I own both a 370Z and a type-R, what does that make me nismos-homos?

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 4046742)

Nah, it just makes you a man that knows what he likes and ain’t afraid to live his best life. :driving:

:icon17:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 4046742)

Nah, it just makes you a man that knows what he likes and ain’t afraid to live his best life. :driving:

:icon17:

Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 4046750)

weather is changing high 56
tomorrow even colder..
tis the time
enjoy the day and then some
:)

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 4046711)

Fair enough, I’m coming at it from a long term health aspect as much as a bodybuilding/weightlifting one. Even with all the exercise and rotating into a clean eating phase periodically, consuming all those chemicals and bad fats and processed foods is still bad for long term health. Its also hard on the body to constantly cycle from one extreme to the other.

I agree about metabolism not having to decline with age, a proper diet and exercise can work Miracles. I was more referring to our hormonal profile. Testosterone peaks in your mid twenties (not withstanding the temporary boost during puberty), growth hormone peaks mid thru late 20s. Assuming someone stays healthy and injury free and continues to train, gains can be made/maintained thru mid to late 30s. But after that it’s a slow road downhill.

Now, to be fair, when I was young and dumb and full of cum, I wasn’t bodybuilding and powerlifting with longevity or health benefits in mind, I was just focusing on being the most muscular and strong version of myself I could be. Age and disability have a funny way of changing one’s perspective though. :icon17: