Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 378778)

I agree ctzn, it should become a great device, but Apple has the iPod and the iPhone to build from. They also have all the past mistakes of Microsoft and others at tablet attempts and can see what people wanted from them but also why those devices failed.
In the end Apple took the iPhone/iPod touch and created a larger version to just start with, can it become great? Sure, but would it have been better to start with what we saw (iPad) and then try to grow from that for a first round try. The iPad really could have change the industry:

eBooks, portal media (web, video, music, etc.), email, iWork, plus apps - Are all a great start
What about video chat or VoiP, desktop widgets/info, multi-task (Apple created this great new CPU or bought into it but do not show it off), connection(s) (HDMI/USB/or even displayport, you want this device to be the ultimate portable and all give us is 30pin?), widescreen (4:3 ratio was a bad decision). There are more things Apple could/should have done, all within the realm of the current technology without changing cost.

Originally Posted by ctzn (Post 378814)

Valid points, they missed the boat on some big ticket items and big opportunities here, but hope is not lost by any means.

I jailbroke my iphone to overcome it's shortcomings and I am sure it won't be long till people have this thing cracked with all the goods. I hope Apple builds a more upscale version with a real OS though.

Originally Posted by ctzn (Post 378862)

^It's not personal, Apple didn't make this just to offend you. I think we are having a discussion about the pros and cons of this thing but spouting off your disgust doesn't really contribute to your point of view.

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 378874)

Apple tries to come off as a company who makes trendy, innovative products. With this, they have totally failed. So yeah, I am disgusted. What would you prefer I contribute?

"This product is boring, bland, unimaginative"
"This product is totally not Apples style or up to their par of quality"
"This product is marketed for people with 5 or less functioning brain cells"

Steve-o seriously sounded like he was reaching as hard as possible to make it sound innovative, and it ended up being boring as hell. I could actually hear him thinking, "hmm...how long can I simply surf the web for, and show off features that just about every touch screen has, and keep the crowd interested?!"

Originally Posted by ctzn (Post 378920)

Something productive that isn't offensive to everyone who doesn't share your extremist views. No one here is claiming perfection with this, but calling it a total failure is a bit of a stretch in my opinion. Insults to not equal constructive or even viable reasoning.

Moving along, I found this article pretty interesting. The best thing to come out of this could be the competition to come from it. Hopefully we will see more and better products from other manufactures to adapt and force Apple to push the bar if they want to stay atop the heap in the "cooler than thou" gadget arena.

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 378973)

Here's my constructive criticism on it: put OS X on it. Voila. Fixed.

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 378973)

Here's my constructive criticism on it: put OS X on it. Voila. Fixed.

Originally Posted by ctzn (Post 378980)

I agree :tup: and fix that huge ugly bezel...

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 378986)

Ok, if this happened I would buy it.
It would solve almost any issue with it people have, and still allow Apple to have their control over the device, maybe even more so (jailbreaking community?).