What does the future hold for Stealerships?

babyzilla · 02-10-2022, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveVQ

Yes, actually, I bought this Z I currently have Feb 12th, 2021. They wanted $26K

and I walked out. They chased me and I got it for $18k

.
I knew the car had been sitting on their lot for a while and I took full advantage of that.

Mannnn good on you! Lol

BORNGEARHEAD · 02-12-2022, 06:00 PM

It's simple supply/demand. Whether you believe it happened organically or plan-demically, the dealerships have everyone by the balls and they can gouge all they want. Our dealership is selling everything at sticker while others are selling at a $5k markup. The other dealerships even offered to buy our entire Nissan inventory at sticker just so they can turn around and sell at markup. I knew shet was going to hit then, and bought one of the last new '20 Z Sports available in the country. Sooo glad I did.
All I can say is be patient and sit on cash. When this all ends badly, there are going to be really good deals to be had...just like there were in '08.

babyzilla · 02-20-2022, 12:03 AM

Great post. Thanks for your input/advice!

NecioVato · 02-21-2022, 11:30 AM

I have been looking for a CTR for the last 6mo - finally just gave up. At first I was just curious as to ‘are the markups this out of control….YUP - they are’. It’s funny bc I would NEVER EVER recommend CarMax to anyone - but during this pandemic - at least you know the price of the car and everything that is being done to it - they also offer a 7 day return policy.
The best deal I found was $5k over MSRP - but this was before things were out of control - fast forward to now - and that $5k is more like $5k over MSRP + every single add on they can think of. So - when I finally got to test drive it - it was a Boost Blue in CarMax. No pressure - they offered a GREAT trade in for the Z - but….while I wanted the CTR - I feel like it didn’t blow me away so like others have said - I’m going to wait it out and look to find a CTR on the cheap - figure that will happen when the new model comes out along with when supply chain issues are not an issue anymore.
The ‘rough’ plan is to keep the Z and mod it to make it a weekend car and make the CTR that daily - backseats and a hatch to pack stuff and do small mods to that car to compare the 2. Regardless - like everyone has said - if you can avoid buying a car right now - it’s best to.
I’m in Dallas - and its funny bc there are so many people buying new cars - i just don’t get it but whatever

/RandomThoughtsPost

ZoomZ · 02-21-2022, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead

I was looking at a 2019 Nismo

Already overpriced IMO (more than the canadian MSRP new) The guy said, we can't lower the price. It has $9000 worth of ceramic coating and PPF on it.

Basically told him to shove it as I would definitely be taking those off and redoing them if I did buy it.

When did a Nismo get Heated seats?

Spooler · 02-21-2022, 12:07 PM

Now is not the time to be buying a used or new car.

SeeThruHead · 02-21-2022, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoomZ

When did a Nismo get Heated seats?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4HV...anOwnerChannel

always? maybe 2018?
is it may be a canadian thing? since it's cold here... i dunno

babyzilla · 02-21-2022, 08:25 PM

I enjoy reading these responses/input. That's why I made this thread. Just wanted to see what others have been experiencing and some stories that you are able to share.

babyzilla · 02-21-2022, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeThruHead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4HV...anOwnerChannel

always? maybe 2018?
is it may be a canadian thing? since it's cold here... i dunno

Definitely sounds like a Canadian thing. Not 100%, but pretty sure the US market doesn't get it. Pretty nice though!

abm89 · 02-22-2022, 09:51 AM

This might be unpopular, but I hate the pricing game with dealerships. I'd much rather have an option to buy directly from the manufacturer at MSRP and just wait for my car to arrive.

Thankfully, I have no plans of buying another car anytime soon.

babyzilla · 02-22-2022, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abm89

This might be unpopular, but I hate the pricing game with dealerships. I'd much rather have an option to buy directly from the manufacturer at MSRP and just wait for my car to arrive.

Thankfully, I have no plans of buying another car anytime soon.

No, I think a lot of people would agree with that. Of course it's nice to save money where you can by haggling. On the other hand, I'm starting to realize that if paying MSRP was the only option, you would 1) save time, 2) probably have a positive experience, and 3) not have to worry about if you got the best deal or if you found out someone else was able to get a better deal.

The problem is if manufacturers sold directly, it would wipe out an entire auto industry. Not necessarily a problem for me or many of us on this forum, but a problem nonetheless. I assume manufacturers would have to restructure their business to incorporate this idea, and I'm sure it would come with its own issues (probably still better than dealership though lol).

Rusty · 02-22-2022, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyzilla

No, I think a lot of people would agree with that. Of course it's nice to save money where you can by haggling. On the other hand, I'm starting to realize that if paying MSRP was the only option, you would 1) save time, 2) probably have a positive experience, and 3) not have to worry about if you got the best deal or if you found out someone else was able to get a better deal.

The problem is if manufacturers sold directly, it would wipe out an entire auto industry. Not necessarily a problem for me or many of us on this forum, but a problem nonetheless. I assume manufacturers would have to restructure their business to incorporate this idea, and I'm sure it would come with its own issues (probably still better than dealership though lol).

This is what Tesla did.

Shopping for a new vehicle sucks. Some dealers are adding what they call "market adjustments". Ford dealers are great at this. Tacking as much as $15,000 onto the price of new Bronco's. Seen as much as $30,000 on a Mustang FT500.

cv129 · 02-22-2022, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abm89

This might be unpopular, but I hate the pricing game with dealerships.

SeeThruHead · 02-22-2022, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyzilla

No, I think a lot of people would agree with that. Of course it's nice to save money where you can by haggling. On the other hand, I'm starting to realize that if paying MSRP was the only option, you would 1) save time, 2) probably have a positive experience, and 3) not have to worry about if you got the best deal or if you found out someone else was able to get a better deal.

The problem is if manufacturers sold directly, it would wipe out an entire auto industry. Not necessarily a problem for me or many of us on this forum, but a problem nonetheless. I assume manufacturers would have to restructure their business to incorporate this idea, and I'm sure it would come with its own issues (probably still better than dealership though lol).

dealerships are one of the types of retailers out that that actually deserve to be wiped out.

ZoomZ · 02-22-2022, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeThruHead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4HV...anOwnerChannel

always? maybe 2018?
is it may be a canadian thing? since it's cold here... i dunno

If it came with Recaro Alcantera seats, NO. Not even in Canadian market.

The video is not a NISMO.

02-12-2022, 06:00 PM	#17 (permalink)
BORNGEARHEAD Base Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: WI Posts: 58 Drives: 2020 370z Passion Rep Power: 3360	It's simple supply/demand. Whether you believe it happened organically or plan-demically, the dealerships have everyone by the balls and they can gouge all they want. Our dealership is selling everything at sticker while others are selling at a $5k markup. The other dealerships even offered to buy our entire Nissan inventory at sticker just so they can turn around and sell at markup. I knew shet was going to hit then, and bought one of the last new '20 Z Sports available in the country. Sooo glad I did. All I can say is be patient and sit on cash. When this all ends badly, there are going to be really good deals to be had...just like there were in '08. God-Speed, JARblue, danegrey and 2 others like this. __________________ '20 370Z Sport - '15 Frontier - '04 350Z Roadster - '79 Datsun 620

02-21-2022, 11:30 AM	#19 (permalink)
NecioVato Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 326 Drives: 2017 Black Nismo Z Rep Power: 19787	I have been looking for a CTR for the last 6mo - finally just gave up. At first I was just curious as to ‘are the markups this out of control….YUP - they are’. It’s funny bc I would NEVER EVER recommend CarMax to anyone - but during this pandemic - at least you know the price of the car and everything that is being done to it - they also offer a 7 day return policy. The best deal I found was $5k over MSRP - but this was before things were out of control - fast forward to now - and that $5k is more like $5k over MSRP + every single add on they can think of. So - when I finally got to test drive it - it was a Boost Blue in CarMax. No pressure - they offered a GREAT trade in for the Z - but….while I wanted the CTR - I feel like it didn’t blow me away so like others have said - I’m going to wait it out and look to find a CTR on the cheap - figure that will happen when the new model comes out along with when supply chain issues are not an issue anymore. The ‘rough’ plan is to keep the Z and mod it to make it a weekend car and make the CTR that daily - backseats and a hatch to pack stuff and do small mods to that car to compare the 2. Regardless - like everyone has said - if you can avoid buying a car right now - it’s best to. I’m in Dallas - and its funny bc there are so many people buying new cars - i just don’t get it but whatever /RandomThoughtsPost babyzilla and RicerZboyZ like this. Last edited by NecioVato; 02-21-2022 at 11:33 AM.

02-21-2022, 12:07 PM	#21 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,834 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	Now is not the time to be buying a used or new car. FL 4Motion, JARblue, Rusty and 3 others like this.

02-22-2022, 09:51 AM	#25 (permalink)
abm89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,386 Drives: 11 370Z \| 24 EL450 Rep Power: 64763	This might be unpopular, but I hate the pricing game with dealerships. I'd much rather have an option to buy directly from the manufacturer at MSRP and just wait for my car to arrive. Thankfully, I have no plans of buying another car anytime soon. __________________ Complete Parts List: https://github.com/abm89/ztouge-build

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