The New “What did you do with your Z today” (with off topic replies) XXXX

filip00 · 06-23-2023, 04:49 AM

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I'm not sure what more of an explanation you are wanting. My original post was regarding hurricane/meteorology forecasts and the accuracy of them. No conspiracy theory or hidden agenda, or insinuating of "anything going on". Somehow, ocean mapping got into the picture.

There really isn't anything to explain/dive further on, as my stance is with meteorologists having need to be educated and certified, paired with technology and being able to take into consideration different weather conditions/variables, they should be able to make better/more accurate forecasts. I get it's not an exact science, BUT, each news station team has a panel of meteorologists (not just 1) and usually confer amongst themselves. I am wondering as to why something major as a hurricane can have multitudes of scenarios (rather than just a limited few) and be way off. The meteorologists should be able to use different events, such as fronts, troughs, El Nino, La Nina, wind shears, un/favorable conditions, etc. and be able to formulate a few accurate paths.

In terms of ocean mapping, again, I didn't bring this up, but the distances involved for the ocean and outer space are not comparable. From the surface to the location of the Titanic is less than 3 miles deep, whereas the distance from Earth to the Moon is thousands of miles away. Logically, one could think it is easier to map the ocean floor of where the Titanic sits than to map out the Moon. If we have the technology to map out the Moon with an advanced telescope, then I would think we would also have the technology (or could develop) to map underwater that's less than 3 miles deep.

I appreciate the explanation of your reasoning. So if I understand correctly, the main reason why you view this as odd (to have moon mapped, on not ocean) is the sheer distance differential between the two. I get it.
Well, I can safely say - that's one of those illusions. However far space may seem, you are talking about exploring something simply by having a telescope. Newton and Kepler were both successful at observing distant bodies centuries ago, but diving - nobody has.
Another important piece - in space, you are dealing with just ONE atmosphere of pressure difference between Earth and Space. In the deep ocean, the difference can be 300 Atmospheres of pressure. So we are talking about a COMPLETELY different challenge. Take that as well into your perspective.

filip00 · 06-23-2023, 04:50 AM

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How about this for conspiracy theory? There's no way in H3LL your seats can be that perfect (i.e. no creases, no lines, no wrinkles, no scratches, no stain transfer, etc.) and be a 2009. I think you bought new OEM seats and put them in recently.

Kudos for this one

I'll make a picture in the brightest daylight for you, I think I do have one mini crease on the driver's side

filip00 · 06-23-2023, 04:52 AM

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...old-initiative

"We have plans to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean," Biden told the League of Conservation Voters at their annual dinner in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday night. "We have plans to build in Angola, one of the largest solar plants in the world. I could go on, but I'm not. I'm going off script. I'm going to get in trouble."

DaveZ03, now would be a great time to send me a blank check for funding to map out the ocean flooring. It's an untapped market and Brandon is planning on building "a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean".

I will publicly cut my balls off if anyone builds a railroad for commercial use across the ocean floor in the next 15 years.

filip00 · 06-23-2023, 04:57 AM

Sorry for beating a dead horse, but this is last post regarding this oceangate crap:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCW9BbpER2I&t=9m03s

On this link (timestamp annotated), you can listen to an interesting discussion about the submarine vs space station. Why is it actually much harder to construct a submarine, than a space station to be put in space.

MZ DAIZY · 06-23-2023, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...old-initiative

"We have plans to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean," Biden told the League of Conservation Voters at their annual dinner in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday night. "We have plans to build in Angola, one of the largest solar plants in the world. I could go on, but I'm not. I'm going off script. I'm going to get in trouble."

DaveZ03, now would be a great time to send me a blank check for funding to map out the ocean flooring. It's an untapped market and Brandon is planning on building "a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean".

God save the Queen, Man!

God-Speed · 06-23-2023, 06:30 AM

Good Friday Morning All. 99* for a high today with just a 10% chance of rain.

Hope you all have a Great Friday. Stay Safe, Stay Positive and Keep Moving Forward.

Remember: "The only person you are destined to become is the person you decide to be.” Ralph Waldo Emerson

JNews86 · 06-23-2023, 07:31 AM

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I will publicly cut my balls off if anyone builds a railroad for commercial use across the ocean floor in the next 15 years.

I believe there were plans to build one from Alaska into Russia but the Bering Strait was too hostile.

JNews86 · 06-23-2023, 07:35 AM

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God save the Queen, Man!

Don't forget Fetterman calling Brandon "A collapsed bridge"

DaveZ03 · 06-23-2023, 07:55 AM

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DaveZ03, be sure to send a blank check my way and I will gladly take on the ocean mapping project. Someone has to do it.

I'm not the one pointing out a problem without offering up viable solutions in science, or even a grounded idea. Your issue, you find your own solution on your own dime. I still await your ground breaking approach to address these issues you are so up in arms about, which although monetarily speaking will not cost you anything, will cost you time and thought. Looking forward to your reply that addresses your concerns you pointed out with our current approach to these issues across meteorology and ocean exploration.

JNews86 · 06-23-2023, 08:40 AM

We have a corrupt govt yet you guys are arguing over the ocean floor lol

Rusty · 06-23-2023, 08:46 AM

At Rausch Creek. A weekend of camping and 4 wheeling.

DaveZ03 · 06-23-2023, 08:50 AM

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We have a corrupt govt yet you guys are arguing over the ocean floor lol

Discussions over science are at least based in some amount of measurable truth, unlike politics. Good luck with that spectrum of discourse and picking apart which pile of poo has more nuts in them, not to mention what Trips has already said about this thread being clear of politics.

vtec to vvel · 06-23-2023, 08:59 AM

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If it is SO MUCH easier, than why aren't you doing it? Do you have a solution to present? I'll wait...

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I'm not the one pointing out a problem without offering up viable solutions in science, or even a grounded idea. Your issue, you find your own solution on your own dime. I still await your ground breaking approach to address these issues you are so up in arms about, which although monetarily speaking will not cost you anything, will cost you time and thought. Looking forward to your reply that addresses your concerns you pointed out with our current approach to these issues across meteorology and ocean exploration.

Buddy, you're the one that brought up for me to come up with a solution. Since no solution is present and I am willing to do this, I need a financial backer.

BTW, I never brought up ocean floor mapping, and was a by-product somehow of the discussion. Read through the posts.

vtec to vvel · 06-23-2023, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveZ03

Discussions over science are at least based in some amount of measurable truth, unlike politics. Good luck with that spectrum of discourse and picking apart which pile of poo has more nuts in them, not to mention what Trips has already said about this thread being clear of politics.

Ladies and gents, the mole

DaveZ03 · 06-23-2023, 09:09 AM

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Buddy, you're the one that brought up for me to come up with a solution. Since no solution is present and I am willing to do this, I need a financial backer.

BTW, I never brought up ocean floor mapping, and was a by-product somehow of the discussion. Read through the posts.

So just to be clear, from the several posts already, you still have no solution to present? An idea only costs time and thought. Since you brought this up, it has been going on 24 hours and I have to think that from your passion expressed in your posts on the just meteorology, you would have been thinking about this already (making a hypothesis here). So am I to assume you are not gonna offer at least an idea, that is grounded in science, on how the world can approach meteorology different that is an improvement based on data that we currently have available to us? Is there a better approach you have in mind for modeling weather fronts and how to more accurately predict their travel? Do you have access to more data than currently trained meteorologists? If so, the world would greatly benefit from your expertise.

My point is, and I've said this in previous posts, complaining is easy and doesn't cost near as much in thought and time as coming up with at least a hypothesis on an actual scientific grounded approach to improve something. Unless one is actually going to offer a solution, complaining about something (or at the bare minimum it came across as you being displeased) does nothing but make someone look like they are banging on a drum just to have attention.

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