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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY I’m looking forward to another one of Brandon's lucid and informative press conferences! Nothing instills confidence more than flash cards, photos and a seat map!

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Old 04-22-2023, 10:04 AM   #10606 (permalink)
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I’m looking forward to another one of Brandon's lucid and informative press conferences! Nothing instills confidence more than flash cards, photos and a seat map! Complete with yelling, blank stares, and hand shakes with ghosts.


It's sad that I have to rely on ANOTHER COUNTRY'S news media outlet to get real US news:

https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/united-states

And each time Brandon answers questions, it seems like these questions are pre-selected and he already has a response prepared for him (it looks like he's reading responses off of cards, as he is constantly looking up and down when responding).
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The market then was a completely different market than now.

THEN:
1. No mortgage lending regulations, at least not to the likes of today. This resulted in a lot of bad/toxic mortgages being sold off to the secondary market that eventually/essentially became worthless securities. Remember Lehman Brothers?
2. There was too much supply then, paired with too many homeowners having too many mortgages that they did not qualify for. When they defaulted on the loans, this added to the massive housing supply and it was truly a buyer's market in terms of housing supply. The foreclosed homes could not find buyers quick enough.

NOW:
1. Much stricter mortgage lending regulations. There are so many variables and factors the underwriter looks at from the time of mortgage loan application to your closing date. You'd be surprised of how many people start off being qualified, and get denied towards the end.
2. Not enough homes. You can't have a housing market crash like the one in 2008 with the lack of supply. The housing market crash of 2008 is the main driver of the shortage we are experiencing today.

On a side note, depending on the loan type, a potential homebuyer could have a credit score as low as 580 to qualify, amongst other requirements.
Why are people with good credit being penalized?

And what about refinancing?

PS: the REAL reason is to get more low income, democratic voters into the suburbs where Republicans rule.
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Why are people with good credit being penalized?

And what about refinancing?

PS: the REAL reason is to get more low income, democratic voters into the suburbs where Republicans rule.
I agree, but I unfortunately have no say in the rules/regulations. After reading the article you posted, and if it becomes a reality, this absolutely makes no sense. IMO, this could lead to a higher chance of foreclosures with riskier borrowers, but even with increased foreclosures, this shouldn't lead to a housing market crash like 2008 due to the current massive housing shortage compared to the number of buyers.

And this would theoretically apply to refinances as they are a new loan/term. But it also depends on the loan type, as LLPA's generally only apply to Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac loans.

PS: I agree. It feels more like a political stunt than anything.
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I’m looking forward to another one of Brandon's lucid and informative press conferences! Nothing instills confidence more than flash cards, photos and a seat map! Complete with yelling, blank stares, and hand shakes with ghosts.
Don't forget about the random whispers into the mic, not knowing where to go after a speech, tripping on the stairs a few times on the same set, falling off bikes randomly while standing, AND "END OF QUOTE - REPEAT THE LINE's".
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Don't forget about the random whispers into the mic, not knowing where to go after a speech, tripping on the stairs a few times on the same set, falling off bikes randomly while standing, AND "END OF QUOTE - REPEAT THE LINE's".
LOL! Yea, all true. Don't forget about the hair sniffing...
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Oh, and Mayor Petey Pie want to spend a half a billion dollars.on female crash test dummies because of "equality"! !!!

Why don't they just put dresses on the male dummies and save us a ton of money? Works for humans.
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I’m looking forward to another one of Brandon's lucid and informative press conferences! Nothing instills confidence more than flash cards, photos and a seat map! Complete with yelling, blank stares, and hand shakes with ghosts.
do you think he'll tell his to inject bleach into our skin for the folks that have the coronavirus...

wait, that actually happened...
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I don't think he even remembers COVID, or much of anything else. He probably thinks he's still a senator and needs to run for the top office for the 1st time.
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he was talking bout little ol me. and to be honest, im so glad I did.. a few folks have sent me PM's thanking me for doing so. its been pretty civil around here without them.

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The market then was a completely different market than now.

THEN:
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NOW:
1. Much stricter mortgage lending regulations. There are so many variables and factors the underwriter looks at from the time of mortgage loan application to your closing date. You'd be surprised of how many people start off being qualified, and get denied towards the end.
2. Not enough homes. You can't have a housing market crash like the one in 2008 with the lack of supply. The housing market crash of 2008 is the main driver of the shortage we are experiencing today.

On a side note, depending on the loan type, a potential homebuyer could have a credit score as low as 580 to qualify, amongst other requirements.
Remember how many foreclosures there were in 2008. That's going to happen again with these new guidelines. These low income people are going to run into trouble with their finances.
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he was talking bout little ol me. and to be honest, im so glad I did.. a few folks have sent me PM's thanking me for doing so. its been pretty civil around here without them.

I wish them the best.
I wasnt implying about anyone. I was just saying if he is tell him to go f himself bc I been trying to get a hold of him for a while now. I used to talk to him all the time but deleted my social media and lost my old phone so I dont have any of his contacts.

Was here in the beginning with him in like 2009 or something like that. This is my 2nd account bc I had to delete my 1st one.
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Remember how many foreclosures there were in 2008. That's going to happen again with these new guidelines. These low income people are going to run into trouble with their finances.
I agree with you on the number of foreclosures increasing. In fact, this was already the school of thought when homebuyers that didn't qualify before COVID qualified during COVID when rates dropped next to nothing.

BUT, even with these guidelines, they still have to qualify under the rules/regulations post-2008 housing crash, low-income or not, such as employment history, DTI ratio, cash needed to close, etc. They still have to undergo the underwriter's blessing and still have to meet ALL the requirements to get cleared to close. On a side note, there are plenty of people making 6 figures/year that still get denied due to their DTI ratio. So this new guideline in itself won't be the sole qualification standard, but in addition to.

Remember back then, the toxic mortgages/securities came about because the lack of rules/regulations. In fact, a very popular loan then was the "no documents" loan, where people go could into a bank and claim they made $10000000000/year and did not have to show proof of it. Mortgage lending itself was very loose then and anyone could virtually qualify then. Post-housing market crash, you so much as sneeze the wrong way, and the underwriter is re-auditing the loan file. Each time an Underwriter approves a loan, they are putting their license on the line, so if anything went wrong or seemed out of place, they would be the first to be questioned.
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