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Old 06-22-2023, 04:51 AM   #12151 (permalink)
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"Lab-grown meat is cleared for sale in the United States."

Nope, I'll opt for the real stuff.

"Good Meat, which has been selling its products in Singapore, advertises its product as 'meat without slaughter,' a more humane approach to eating meat."

I do not condone violence against animals. That being said, as long as it's done right and humanely, people come first and you can't convince me that this "cultivated" sh!t is equivalent to the real stuff.


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Good Thursday Morning All. Just 99* for a high today with a 20% chance of more rain after getting some much needed rain last night. Time to get rocking guys. So hope you all have a good one today. Stay Safe, Stay Positive and Keep Moving Forward.

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It will sell at first. Just like the Beyond Meat. Then sales will fall when people realize just how much more it costs over real meat. Couple of the companies that make the fake meat are losing money. Because of sales fell off a cliff.
Not just that. It's also way worse for you.
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/21/us/ho...-dg/index.html

"The Titanic submersible was going down nearly 13,000 feet. Just how deep in the ocean is that?"

We have the ability/technology to send people to the moon and rovers to Mars, which are thousands upon millions of miles away, and have the capabilities to track them so they don't get lost. Yet, we can't track a vehicle on our home turf that is less than 3 miles down underwater? Are there not any in-case-of-emergency functionalities on these things?
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Let's see how liberal you are after a major hurricane comes your way and destroys your sh!t after being told by meteorologists that your area is safe.
Listen, take the following as a given, because these are the facts:
1. You can't predict the weather with 100% confidence. You can't, forget it.
2. Nobody can guarantee safety from hurricanes, force majeur events etc.

Now with those two in mind....would you rather that you have a newscaster who says:

"Hurricane is underway, we expect it will go throught states A, B and C, we got no idea if it will go to other states like C, D, E, good luck folks."

or would you like something like:

"Hurricane is underway, we expect it will go throught states A, B and C, we think that states like C, D, E are safe, to the best of our knowledge."


Because the first one will get them legally off the hook, and I dunno, you'll be happy? But what will happen is panic, a lot of people AGAIN hoarding stuff and idiots spreading everywhere......so they are doing the second, but you'r angry because nobody guarantees safety.

I mean think about it for a moment.
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"The Titanic submersible was going down nearly 13,000 feet. Just how deep in the ocean is that?"

We have the ability/technology to send people to the moon and rovers to Mars, which are thousands upon millions of miles away, and have the capabilities to track them so they don't get lost. Yet, we can't track a vehicle on our home turf that is less than 3 miles down underwater? Are there not any in-case-of-emergency functionalities on these things?
Correct.

It's much easier to secure someone from vacuum than from the depths and crazy pressures that are experienced in the bottom of the Mariana trench for example.
It's much easier to track and communicate to people in space, where there are NO OBSTACLES for radio wave communication, whereas in the sea, the opposite is true.
Thirdly, we have mapped the whole moon, because all you need is a telescope. To map the ocean floor, what do you think is necessary? That's a question for you to answer.

With the first two answers that I've given you, and the third one you can answer yourself -> you will answer the whole conundrum that bothers you.
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Looks like we've only mapped <10% of the global ocean, to filip00's point.

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/exploration.html
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Looks like we've only mapped <10% of the global ocean, to filip00's point.

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/exploration.html
I am amazed that this apparently isn't common knowledge.
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Listen, take the following as a given, because these are the facts:
1. You can't predict the weather with 100% confidence. You can't, forget it.
2. Nobody can guarantee safety from hurricanes, force majeur events etc.

Now with those two in mind....would you rather that you have a newscaster who says:

"Hurricane is underway, we expect it will go throught states A, B and C, we got no idea if it will go to other states like C, D, E, good luck folks."

or would you like something like:

"Hurricane is underway, we expect it will go throught states A, B and C, we think that states like C, D, E are safe, to the best of our knowledge."


Because the first one will get them legally off the hook, and I dunno, you'll be happy? But what will happen is panic, a lot of people AGAIN hoarding stuff and idiots spreading everywhere......so they are doing the second, but you'r angry because nobody guarantees safety.

I mean think about it for a moment.
I'm not angry nor asking for 100% accurate results, and I understand weather is not an exact science. BUT, given the education/technology/qualifications/etc. needed, meteorologist should and need to give a better picture of its projected path based on conditions and factors (i.e. warm air, warm water, wind shear, troughs, any jet streams that could push the hurricane away to a different direction, etc.). They have plenty of tools and resources and KNOWN variables to depict these phenomenons. There will be different scenarios, but these should be very limited, and not have the spaghetti models with the entire alphabet.
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Correct.

It's much easier to secure someone from vacuum than from the depths and crazy pressures that are experienced in the bottom of the Mariana trench for example.
It's much easier to track and communicate to people in space, where there are NO OBSTACLES for radio wave communication, whereas in the sea, the opposite is true.
Thirdly, we have mapped the whole moon, because all you need is a telescope. To map the ocean floor, what do you think is necessary? That's a question for you to answer.

With the first two answers that I've given you, and the third one you can answer yourself -> you will answer the whole conundrum that bothers you.
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So you're telling me it's much easier to communicate with someone that is millions of miles away and in space with unknown territory/variables than someone who is less than 3 miles underwater on home turf with better known variables?

We can map the moon, but we can't map out 3 miles of underwater of the general area of where the Titanic is? We don't need to map out the entire ocean for this, let alone the Mariana Trench.
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I am amazed that this apparently isn't common knowledge.
I am amazed society has apparently only mapped <10% of the global ocean.
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Listen, take the following as a given, because these are the facts:
1. You can't predict the weather with 100% confidence. You can't, forget it.
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Now with those two in mind....would you rather that you have a newscaster who says:

"Hurricane is underway, we expect it will go throught states A, B and C, we got no idea if it will go to other states like C, D, E, good luck folks."

or would you like something like:

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Because the first one will get them legally off the hook, and I dunno, you'll be happy? But what will happen is panic, a lot of people AGAIN hoarding stuff and idiots spreading everywhere......so they are doing the second, but you'r angry because nobody guarantees safety.

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