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vtec to vvel 12-14-2022 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 4033101)
you'd be crazy to buy anything right now with those rates.. fvck that sh1t.:icon14:

I know I've mentioned that it's a bad time to take on additional debt and I was referring to taking on additional credit card debt, taking out unsecured loans, etc. Even with higher rates, people will still go into debt, whether due to not understanding the effects of it or out of necessity.

With a home, IMO, the reasons why it's better to buy now:

1. With higher rates, you have way less competition now with limited qualified buyers available, meaning you are not going to pay above the appraised value and sellers are starting to drop price. When rates were near 2%-3% range, I had buyers paying up to $200K above the appraised value of the home (this is something they had to pay out of pocket since lenders will not loan more on a property than what the appraisal value comes back as). Keep in mind that the housing shortage is not going away anytime soon - there has been a significant underbuilding of new homes since the housing market crash while households have significantly grown since.

2. If you buy when rates are high, fortunately, you are not stuck with that rate. Refinance when rates drop.

At the end of the day, pick your poison. It comes down to your personal financial situation:

A. Get a super low rate if you are lucky enough to get your offer selected during fierce competition and pay a significant amount of money out of pocket over asking/appraised value
OR
B. Get a higher rate with less competition and drastically reduce the chances of paying out of pocket over the asking/appraised value, and then refinance to a lower rate when rates drop.

Unfortunately, the media tends to focus on the bad and a very small piece of the pie, rather than the entire picture. For example, the media has been so focused on low interest rates for homes and potential buyers are scared of 7% range rates, when they have no problem moving forward with a credit card/unsecured loan with a rate nearly 30% lol.

vtec to vvel 12-14-2022 10:24 AM

Oh yeah, and keep in mind that the interest you pay on your mortgage is tax deductible lol unlike your credit cards

eastwest2300 12-14-2022 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4033103)
I know I've mentioned that it's a bad time to take on additional debt and I was referring to taking on additional credit card debt, taking out unsecured loans, etc. Even with higher rates, people will still go into debt, whether due to not understanding the effects of it or out of necessity.

With a home, IMO, the reasons why it's better to buy now:

1. With higher rates, you have way less competition now with limited qualified buyers available, meaning you are not going to pay above the appraised value and sellers are starting to drop price. When rates were near 2%-3% range, I had buyers paying up to $200K above the appraised value of the home (this is something they had to pay out of pocket since lenders will not loan more on a property than what the appraisal value comes back as). Keep in mind that the housing shortage is not going away anytime soon - there has been a significant underbuilding of new homes since the housing market crash while households have significantly grown since.

2. If you buy when rates are high, fortunately, you are not stuck with that rate. Refinance when rates drop.

At the end of the day, pick your poison. It comes down to your personal financial situation:

A. Get a super low rate if you are lucky enough to get your offer selected during fierce competition and pay a significant amount of money out of pocket over asking/appraised value
OR
B. Get a higher rate with less competition and drastically reduce the chances of paying out of pocket over the asking/appraised value, and then refinance to a lower rate when rates drop.

Unfortunately, the media tends to focus on the bad and a very small piece of the pie, rather than the entire picture. For example, the media has been so focused on low interest rates for homes and potential buyers are scared of 7% range rates, when they have no problem moving forward with a credit card/unsecured loan with a rate nearly 30% lol.

You bring very valid points my friend.:iagree:

vtec to vvel 12-14-2022 06:09 PM

Feds decided to raise rates AGAIN today by 50 basis points, while "acknowledging that inflation is easing". Fed. Chair Jerome Powell said last month "there is still a chance the economy can avoid a recession, but the odds are slim".

Does he not realize that HE (as the Fed. Chair) has the ability to heavily influence whether the US goes into a recession or not? It's a balancing act and if inflation is easing, then don't continue to raise rates :shakes head::mad:

This is the same dude that said, “We now understand better how little we understand about inflation” in 06/2022 :gtfo2:

vtec to vvel 12-14-2022 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 4033119)
You bring very valid points my friend.:iagree:

What happened to your bmw avatar picture?

eastwest2300 12-14-2022 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4033121)
What happened to your bmw avatar picture?

:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

eastwest2300 12-14-2022 06:32 PM

its a fast f'n BMW.. lets not leave that out.. :iagree:

vtec to vvel 12-14-2022 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 4033123)
its a fast f'n BMW.. lets not leave that out.. :iagree:

Why did bmw decide to release a manual tranny starting 2023 models? :confused:

God-Speed 12-15-2022 05:26 AM

Good Thursday Morning All. Cold start to the day at 36* with a high of 66* and 0% chance of rain. :bowdown: Time to Rock guys. So hope you all have a good one today. :happydance: Stay Safe, Stay Positive and Keep Moving Forward. :xmastup:

PS: Just 10 shopping days left until Christmas. :xmas3::xmas1::xmaslol:

eastwest2300 12-15-2022 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4033126)
Why did bmw decide to release a manual tranny starting 2023 models? :confused:

Supra buyers had spoken.. and it just made sense. The transmission had already been produced in the Z4, and people wanted it. I wish I would have got mine in manual but I had already bought my Supra. Too late now.

danegrey 12-15-2022 07:51 AM

Thursday, last work day this week for me
Rain is gone too..
have some fun..
10 days to Xmas ( I don't shop for Xmas anymore )
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/christma...y-emoticon.gif

vtec to vvel 12-15-2022 08:55 AM

Happy Friday's Eve!

eastwest2300 12-15-2022 10:31 AM

:rock::rock:

BoneZ 12-15-2022 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 4033141)
:rock::rock:

Hello

eastwest2300 12-15-2022 08:29 PM

kin folk, kin folk :hello::hello:


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