Got me a solo pair of pliers last HumpDay :tup:

Woke up early. Turned on Ren and Stimpy :tup:

Happy :leghump: Day everyone!

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Good Wednesday Morning All. 91* for a high with 0% chance of rain again. :bowdown: Well, just a few more day to go until the weekend. So we had better get this day rolling!! :happydance: Hope you all have a Great Wednesday. Stay Safe, Stay Positive and Keep Washing Those Hands. :tup:

I fail to see whether a truck driver being vaxed or not should matter in this case, it’s not like they’re breathing all over their loads (:icon17:, that came out sounding funny).

Now, having said that, there are jobs where being vaccinated should be required, for example,health care workers bc they are in close contact with medically vulnerable folks, waiters, bartenders b they deal with lots of people.

I think as far as office workers, it kinda depends on the people density and environment.

In other words, some jobs should require it and some don’t need to, you know using common sense.

Now, I do take issue with the idea hat federal overreach started the civil war. If trying to ban white peoples from owning and abusing and exploiting black folks and their labor is federal overreach, then I don’t really know how we can even have a debate on this. The confederate constitution literally states that as per god intended, they planned to creat the First Nation solely founded on the principles of white supremacy and slavery.

Also, if you want to see how fvcked up a weak central govt looks like, look at the EU. They share a common currency but are still struggling find common cause since it’s made up of many unique countries and cultures. Their Achilles heel is that the EU govt they created isn’t accountable to the EU member state’s people. We don’t have that issue here, our federal govt elected officials are still accountable to us and are elected by us. Yes, it’s not perfect, but a strong federal govt is the only reason we as a nation have reaped such great economic rewards esp post 1945. I think the biggest issue is most Americans are too timid and it goes against our propaganda to just admit we are an empire. And as far as empires go, we are the most kind, generous and benevolent one in the history of mankind.

Nature and politics abhors a vacuum, if we aren’t the biggest and strongest and most economically powerful, then someone else will be and then they will set the rules to the game. It’s a complete fantasy that we can live free from a big govt and be left alone. If it’s not ours, then China or Russia or someone else will be that force controlling ours lives. At least if it’s ours, we get to have a say and we are set up as a representative republic.

Capitalism at work, I see no issue with this, why should a company not pass on some of the preventable health care costs onto their employees who are costing them $$? It’s no different than paying more in premiums bc you are a smoker, you are free to choose to be a smoker, but choices have consequences. That’s fair IMO.

Good morning everyone!:tiphat:Rained like a mofo yesterday and looks like the same for today.:eekdance:Anyway everyone have a great day!:tup:

Re: Civil War/War of Northern Aggression we can save this discussion when we can sit down over an adult beverage or two. :tiphat: Your points are valid and I understand them. It's difficult to look at past history without adding in what we've learned since then.

Re: Nature & politics; I agree. We had a strong nation, which enabled us to do what we did post WWII economically and in the rest of the world. But somewhere between Korea & Vietnam, we got lead astray. We got weak as a nation, post Vietnam, which lead to the November 1979 takeover of the US Embassy in Tehran and 65 American hostages. Then came the Reagan years and an increased respect for the US. National fortunes rise and fall like the tides, but right now we seem to be on the slippery slope to a place we might not be able to recover from. Instead of trying to unite the country, people 'in power' are doing everything they can to divide the nation by race, economic status and wealth. They are trying to cause a Civil War. Common sense is absent in Foggy Bottom and in the corporate board rooms. Common sense says that if you work outside/drive a truck, your exposure to others is very limited, but that level of 'common sense' has been removed. Over exposure to the talking heads on TV and corporate CEOs 'virtue signalling' is killing us as a nation.

/rant

But what do I know, I'm just a dumb jarhead.... :p

I'm a big fan of 'equal treatment under the law'. If United had told employees that their health insurance was going up by $250 in January, and then in January, offered a $250 rebate for getting a shot/quitting smoking/losing weight, then I'd have no issue. This points out another problem with our society, it might have been announced like that, but the media chose to report it as something else or it might even be a made-up story (wouldn't be the first time).

To add another wrinkle, I don't see any company giving people that don't get sick and use the company health insurance plan a 'rebate' on premiums. Hmmmm...











But again, what do I know? I'm just a dumb jarhead... :p

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I kinda expected that response.. :rofl2::rofl2::rofl2: