Support the RPM legislation.

JLarson · 03-18-2021, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

This is what I got back from my one azzhole a few minutes ago.

Dear Mr. #####:

Thank you for taking the time to contact me regarding the Environmental Protection Agency's regulation of emissions from converted racecars. I appreciate hearing from you on this issue.

Senator Richard Burr of North Carolina introduced S. 2602, the Recognizing the Protection of Motorsports Act, in the U.S. Senate on October 16, 2019. I am a cosponsor of this legislation.

S. 2602 would prohibit the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) from regulating emission controls on vehicles used solely for competition. This legislation was under review by the Committee on Environment and Public Works when the Senate concluded legislative action for the 116th Congress. This bill did not come before the full Senate for consideration. In order for this legislation to be considered by the full Senate, it must be reintroduced in the 117th Congress, which began on January 3, 2021. Please be assured that should this legislation come before the full Senate, I will keep your views in mind.

I understand that some Pennsylvanians have concerns that this legislation could affect the ability of the EPA to enforce against manufacturers of defeat devices designed to override vehicle pollution controls. I cosponsored this legislation with the understanding that it was narrowly focused and applied solely to the amateur racing industry. I am working with my fellow Senators to modify this legislation so that the EPA retains the authority to ensure these devices are not used on standard street vehicles. Please be assured that I am following this issue closely and will keep your views in mind should the Senate consider this legislation.

Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future about this or any other matter of importance to you.

For more information on this or other issues, I encourage you to visit my web site, http://casey.senate.gov. I invite you to use this online office as a comprehensive resource to stay up-to-date on my work in Washington, request assistance from my office or share with me your thoughts on the issues that matter most to you and to Pennsylvania.

Sincerely,

Bob Casey

United States Senator

Got the same message this morning.

danegrey · 03-18-2021, 07:43 AM

I simply got generic reply's here in TN.

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Thank you for contacting my office to let me know about the issues that are important to you. It is an honor to serve in Washington on behalf of the Second District, and I appreciate you informing me about your views so I can continue to fight for the interests of those who elected me to represent them in Congress. Your messages enable me to better understand the priorities of East Tennesseans, and I will keep your thoughts in mind as I work with my colleagues in the U.S. House of Representatives to produce legislation that addresses the needs of the American people.

Please let me know if you have additional questions about this legislative issue or if I may assist you with any issues in the future. If you would like to receive updates from my office, I invite you to visit burchett.house.gov to sign up for my newsletter.

Sincerely,
Rep. Tim Burchett
Member of Congress

Ghostvette · 03-18-2021, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

The EPA has been testing the water for years. That's what government does. They push their agenda. If they get to a new point without much fuss they push even further. Same thing with gun control. Give them an inch and they will take a mile.

Yep, these are the same azzholes that fined somebody for collecting rainwater off his roof.

theDreamer · 03-18-2021, 11:25 AM

Texas response from Ted Cruz.

takemorepills · 03-18-2021, 02:29 PM

Would boosting your car with an aftermarket SC or turbo kit run afoul of this initiative/legislation/rule whatever TF it is?

Ghostvette · 03-18-2021, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by takemorepills

Would boosting your car with an aftermarket SC or turbo kit run afoul of this initiative/legislation/rule whatever TF it is?

Probably. Under this rule, the EPA would ban all turbo/SC kits and anything that would alter the vehicle emissions.

takemorepills · 03-18-2021, 08:55 PM

Civil War II.

Can't come soon enough

Ghostvette · 03-19-2021, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by takemorepills

Civil War II.

Can't come soon enough

We are heading that way quickly...

Spooler · 03-19-2021, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by takemorepills

Civil War II.

Can't come soon enough

Sure hope not.....

SonicVQ · 03-19-2021, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by takemorepills

Would boosting your car with an aftermarket SC or turbo kit run afoul of this initiative/legislation/rule whatever TF it is?

If you go by the "letter of the law" any engine modification to air / fuel / spark has always been illegal, unless you have done the testing/approval ($$$) to get an "Executive Order" EO#.

Like this one for a 370z Stillen Cold Air Intake System:
https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/afterm...o/d-436-21.pdf

If the state doesn't have an emission inspection/test, only you would know.

takemorepills · 03-19-2021, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SonicVQ

If you go by the "letter of the law" any engine modification to air / fuel / spark has always been illegal, unless you have done the testing/approval ($$$) to get an "Executive Order" EO#.

Like this one for a 370z Stillen Cold Air Intake System:
https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/afterm...o/d-436-21.pdf

If the state doesn't have an emission inspection/test, only you would know.

I've been aware of that for a while.

The real sticking point is getting approval.

It's completely possible for the right kind of setup to pass dyno-roller emissions testings no problem. They could just have a program setup with a standardized test to have a car dyno-roller emission tested after being tuned/modified to confirm compliance. No need for all of the hoops and paperwork.

This reeks of the same over-reach as the vehicle importing laws regarding 25 year old imports.
The Feds know that you can build a tuned car that will still meet emissions standards, and the Feds know that many of the JDM/EDM cars are the exact same cars we get here. But they try to throw cover on us and say that they "haven't been tested for compliance" as if that even matters. Then they hop on a private jet and fly around somehow on a $160K/yr "salary" polluting 1,000x more than their entire represented state's tuned-car population.

It's totally ridiculous, especially at the twilight of ICE cars.

I used to modify OBD1 cars back in "the day" when all emissions tests (in my area) were done on dyno-rollers. Those cars always passed (1992 Integra with a B20 swap and turbo kit passed no prob).

They are just looking for ways to justify the cost of the ever-expanding bureaucracy.

Soon, we'll have Feds standing next to our toilets to ensure we don't use too much toilet paper.

JARblue · 03-19-2021, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by takemorepills

Soon, we'll have Feds standing next to our toilets to ensure we don't use too much toilet paper.

Rusty · 03-19-2021, 12:35 PM

In some countries in public toilets. You buy toilet paper by the sheet. One square may cost you a nickel or more. Hope you never get the chits there.

takemorepills · 03-19-2021, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Scary thing is, everything South Park has mocked over the years has actually come true!

JARblue · 03-20-2021, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by takemorepills

Scary thing is, everything South Park has mocked over the years has actually come true!

03-18-2021, 08:55 PM	#52 (permalink)
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03-18-2021, 02:29 PM	#50 (permalink)
takemorepills Base Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 196 Drives: Q60 3.7 AWD Rep Power: 6716	Would boosting your car with an aftermarket SC or turbo kit run afoul of this initiative/legislation/rule whatever TF it is?