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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 So when I got the Mazda 6, I put on Konig wheels and have had them on ever since (5.5 years). I went to get my

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So when I got the Mazda 6, I put on Konig wheels and have had them on ever since (5.5 years). I went to get my front rotors looked at for vibration when braking and was told that every single one of my wheels had some type of bend in it and that is what was causing the vibration. Is that possible? I'm sure one of them has it (curb check) but surely not all 4.
Jack each wheel up and give it a spin while looking for any sign of the wheel being out of true.
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i'm not in medical, i fully trust science with my life, but i do not trust the multi billion dollar corps that thrive off fuckin over people for profit.

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Just let him run over a few squirrels with it. Maybe a concrete block or 2.
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Prior to election they call protesters and looters peaceful protest..now that they got back in power they call the capitol protest an insurrection! Lol

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So when I got the Mazda 6, I put on Konig wheels and have had them on ever since (5.5 years). I went to get my front rotors looked at for vibration when braking and was told that every single one of my wheels had some type of bend in it and that is what was causing the vibration. Is that possible? I'm sure one of them has it (curb check) but surely not all 4.
Possible, depending on the roads you drive on. I'm not familiar with the Konig and how they stack up with other brands.
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All I can say is things have definitely gotten a lot more interesting in the past 72 hours.
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People are loosing their dang minds. Just stupid.
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Kansas & Missouri had protests at their respective Capitols by Trump supporters. They were quiet and well-behaved according to LE present.

What I'm more concerned about is what happens after January 20. The media was calling the events yesterday an 'insurrection', but called the summer events 'a peaceful protest'. Every media outlet that I listened to said the exact same thing, blaming it on Trump supporters. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Has anyone ever heard of the term 'agent provocateur'? They are people inserted into a crowd of an opponent's supporters with the sole function to create an environment for mayhem and mischief to occur, thereby enabling the elites to label ALL of the opponent's supporters as troublemakers and rounding them up.

Now, I'm not saying this is what happened, but... given what I know about history and having studied Von Clausewitz and Sun Tzu, it bears considering. What better way to demonize a part of the population that disagrees with you? You call them 'bitter clingers, a basket of deplorables' and then blame them for attacking the Capital (shades of 1930s Germany when the SA burned the Reichstag and Hitler blamed the Communists).

I'm tired of it all. America was founded as a place where we could be free of the petty ******** happening in Europe in the 18th Century. Everyone was welcome to come and find their piece of freedom. Somewhere along the way, we got lost. We got stupid and it's gone downhill ever since. I believe Benjamin Franklin once said when queried about what they had created, "A Republic, if you can keep it." Can we save our Republic? Maybe. How? I have no idea, and that thought makes me profoundly sad.
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Kansas & Missouri had protests at their respective Capitols by Trump supporters. They were quiet and well-behaved according to LE present.

What I'm more concerned about is what happens after January 20. The media was calling the events yesterday an 'insurrection', but called the summer events 'a peaceful protest'. Every media outlet that I listened to said the exact same thing, blaming it on Trump supporters. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Has anyone ever heard of the term 'agent provocateur'? They are people inserted into a crowd of an opponent's supporters with the sole function to create an environment for mayhem and mischief to occur, thereby enabling the elites to label ALL of the opponent's supporters as troublemakers and rounding them up.

Now, I'm not saying this is what happened, but... given what I know about history and having studied Von Clausewitz and Sun Tzu, it bears considering. What better way to demonize a part of the population that disagrees with you? You call them 'bitter clingers, a basket of deplorables' and then blame them for attacking the Capital (shades of 1930s Germany when the SA burned the Reichstag and Hitler blamed the Communists).

I'm tired of it all. America was founded as a place where we could be free of the petty ******** happening in Europe in the 18th Century. Everyone was welcome to come and find their piece of freedom. Somewhere along the way, we got lost. We got stupid and it's gone downhill ever since. I believe Benjamin Franklin once said when queried about what they had created, "A Republic, if you can keep it." Can we save our Republic? Maybe. How? I have no idea, and that thought makes me profoundly sad.
I can agree with pretty much everything you have stated other than "Everyone was welcome" as America has always struggled with this idea and as diversity grows the more intense it has become. Even those from diverse backgrounds that have been able to find success struggle with being inclusive once they have got theirs. We will not move forward as long as we think that all we need to do is eliminate those that don't believe or think the same way "we do!" If we just get rid of them all will be okay. No where in the history of man has this worked. As the saying goes, "We have found the enemy and the enemy is us!"
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Kansas & Missouri had protests at their respective Capitols by Trump supporters. They were quiet and well-behaved according to LE present.

What I'm more concerned about is what happens after January 20. The media was calling the events yesterday an 'insurrection', but called the summer events 'a peaceful protest'. Every media outlet that I listened to said the exact same thing, blaming it on Trump supporters. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Has anyone ever heard of the term 'agent provocateur'? They are people inserted into a crowd of an opponent's supporters with the sole function to create an environment for mayhem and mischief to occur, thereby enabling the elites to label ALL of the opponent's supporters as troublemakers and rounding them up.

Now, I'm not saying this is what happened, but... given what I know about history and having studied Von Clausewitz and Sun Tzu, it bears considering. What better way to demonize a part of the population that disagrees with you? You call them 'bitter clingers, a basket of deplorables' and then blame them for attacking the Capital (shades of 1930s Germany when the SA burned the Reichstag and Hitler blamed the Communists).

I'm tired of it all. America was founded as a place where we could be free of the petty ******** happening in Europe in the 18th Century. Everyone was welcome to come and find their piece of freedom. Somewhere along the way, we got lost. We got stupid and it's gone downhill ever since. I believe Benjamin Franklin once said when queried about what they had created, "A Republic, if you can keep it." Can we save our Republic? Maybe. How? I have no idea, and that thought makes me profoundly sad.
I agree with just about all of your conclusions, but regarding your first point, these are not just agent provacateurs. Some of the persons visible in the riot videos have long and public histories of being radicals and QAnon followers. If they're provacateurs we're talking deep undercover and planning for an unknown event months in advance, and an extraordinarily large group of people willing to do it.

The problem with conspiracy theories is they rely upon an often unsustainable level of complexity to support them, and it's not needed. Let's be blunt - a lot of people (on every side - it's not just 2) have a lot of reasons to be unhappy with our both our current government and with the government incoming. If I were a Trump supporter who believed my leader had been denied the election due to corruption, and my leader called upon me to march to take things back, I would probably do it. These people did.
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I can agree with pretty much everything you have stated other than "Everyone was welcome" as America has always struggled with this idea and as diversity grows the more intense it has become. Even those from diverse backgrounds that have been able to find success struggle with being inclusive once they have got theirs. We will not move forward as long as we think that all we need to do is eliminate those that don't believe or think the same way "we do!" If we just get rid of them all will be okay. No where in the history of man has this worked. As the saying goes, "We have found the enemy and the enemy is us!"
This is so true. I needed the Pogo quote for the laugh.

You said it better than I did. Results and ideals are never the same, history shows us that. I think the challenge before us is restoring respectful discussion. I've learned that there are only two things I can control, my attitude and my actions. I have influence over people to the extent that I control those two things.

I want to be a part of the solution and not be considered the problem. I think I've learned how to get along with people, being in the military helped. I've learned how not to treat people and the old saw 'You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar' is entirely true. I've run for public office (Kansas House of Representatives) on 3 occasions, lost all three times, but what I learned was enormous. I had people cuss me out, sic their dogs on me, and threaten to shoot me, just because of the party I represented. But on the other hand, I had people be honestly surprised that a candidate would knock on their door and ask their opinion. TBH, I don't like people so the act of knocking on a stranger's door and asking for them to vote for me was WAY outside my comfort zone.

I highly recommend the experience.
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I agree with just about all of your conclusions, but regarding your first point, this are not just agent provacateurs. Some of the persons visible in the riot videos have long and public histories of being radicals and QAnon followers. If they're provacateurs we're talking deep undercover and planning for an unknown event months in advance, and an extraordinarily large group of people willing to do it.

The problem with conspiracy theories is they rely upon an often unsustainable level of complexity to support them, and it's not needed. Let's be blunt - a lot of people (on every side - it's not just 2) have a lot of reasons to be unhappy with our both our current government and with the government incoming. If I were a Trump supporter who believed my leader had been denied the election due to corruption, and my leader called upon me to march to take things back, I would probably do it. These people did.
I guess I was trying to examine too many things under a microscope, instead of looking at it through a macro lens.
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