The New “What did you do with your Z today” (with off topic replies) XXXIX

Rusty · 05-02-2021, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

I’ll try and play a bit of devil’s advocate here:

I don’t shoot but no one I know around here that does has complained about an ammo shortage. In fact I was in bass pro shop recently to buy a pair of shoes and they were advertising ammo on sale.

Lumber prices have def gone up a lot no question.

Food inflation is real, no doubt.

Clorox wipes, tp etc has always been easy to get here with the exception of during the worst of the pandemic last year

I’ve noticed the Midwest and some northeastern folks like you have had more logistical/supply issues compared with Florida. I think we may just have better supply chain logistics down here compared to y’all.

If any local gun shop gets ammo or reloading supplies. It will last maybe 2 days on the shelf. And they're not just much. Almost anything gun related is out of stock/no back order. I've ordered stuff back in early Dec. It's been trickling in.

Cabela's here quit stocking reloading supplies. Their shelf area for ammo is about 1/4 the size it was. And it's mostly empty.

With this freshly printed money. Inflation is going to take off.

Clorox wipes are very hard to find here. There is some generic stuff floating around.

FL 4Motion · 05-02-2021, 11:04 PM

I’m going to add one more point (or two) here bc this issue is kinda personal to me as well (immigration).

Everyone that has come to this country has come bc they were being persecuted back home, were starving, or needed a job and economic opportunity. That covers the Puritans, the Irish, the Italians, the Jews, the Eastern Europeans…everyone except African Americans. Hell, even the native Americans came here across the Bering sea land bridge looking for game and land, they just happened to be the first humans to get here.

We didn’t have any immigration restrictions at all in this country until we brought in Chinese workers for the western part of the transcontinental railroad building and we got a huge influx of Irish immigrants during the potato famine.

And guess what the Chinese and Irish were considered not “American “, not white, not of good moral character, not “worthy” of being American and their immigration here was destroying our country and diluting our country. Same thing happened again with the Italians and the Eastern Europeans later.

Our first immigration laws wren passed based on ethnic and racial bigotry and discrimination.

Now, we see the same ****, the same bullsh1t arguments against my people, Hispanics, being trotted out again.

Now, I agree 100% that we need immigration laws and we need a secure border. No question about that, but we can enforce those laws humanely and we can recognize that the Latinos coming here are no different than any of our ancestors who came here for the same reasons back in the day.

I’ll say it again on here, our country is a country of immigrants, we have no distinctly unique American culture, it is a culture of “no culture, or all culture mixed together”. We see that with our food, American cuisine is a hodgepodge of all the cultures that have come here with a twist on it, we’re the ultimate fusion dish.

The secret sauce to our success as a nation is our diversity. A crashing together of different ways of thinking etc is why we have so much innovation. When everyone looks, talks, and acts and thinks the same, you don’t get 5he internet, mass production, splitting the atom, putting men on the moon, social media, automobiles for everyone, the stock market, and on and on.

By not being burdened by a culture or history that goes back 1000s of years, we are free to create new ideas/ideals (like our founding fathers/principles)

We are defined as Americans not by race, creed, or ethnicity, or any other physical or geographic characteristics.

We are defined by our principles and we are bound together by them, the idea that we have a god given right to individual life, liberty, and the persute of happiness. Everyone who lives here and is coming here wants the same thing.

We. Have always become better and stronger and more profitable as a nation as a result of immigration. Don’t be scared just because they’re mostly tan and speak a different language from you. Within one or two generations, they’ll be completely “American” just like the Italians, Irish etc before them.

FL 4Motion · 05-02-2021, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

If any local gun shop gets ammo or reloading supplies. It will last maybe 2 days on the shelf. And they're not just much. Almost anything gun related is out of stock/no back order. I've ordered stuff back in early Dec. It's been trickling in.

Cabela's here quit stocking reloading supplies. Their shelf area for ammo is about 1/4 the size it was. And it's mostly empty.

With this freshly printed money. Inflation is going to take off.

Clorox wipes are very hard to find here. There is some generic stuff floating around.

Inflation is always a potential issue and I worry about it too.

But, those same inflation worries never came to pass despite all the deficit spending under Obama. The unfunded trump tax cuts of 2017 added 2T to our debt but no real inflation issue.

Yes Biden wants to add another 4Tin spending but it’s mostly targeted to something that is decades overdue, infrastructure and the rest helps a lot of folks ability to work, ie child care etc.

Now I don’t agree with all of his proposed spending plan, but if we get the infrastructure part even if it carries the other stuff, then it’s worth it IMO.

It’s also going to create a lot of good working class jobs an boost the stock market as our companies make money building up our country.

Re: inflation, our biggest saving grace on this is twofold. One, the US dollar is the world’s reserve currency (why do you think China is trying so hard to change that by replacing us on the world stage). Two, everyone, and I mean everyone in the world is drowning in national debt as bad or worse than we are, turkey, China, EU, and many EU member states etc.

The key to survive any possible inflation issue down the road is the same financial principles you should already be living by- live within your means, pay cash for everything as much as possible and be debt free or work hard towards it. And finally invest well divesfied stock portfolio.

eastwest2300 · 05-02-2021, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

Not exactly true, the vast majority of undocumented immigrants coming in now, and for the last few years are coming from the golden triangle, Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras. They are coming bc of violence, instability, drug/gang warfare, and lastly lack of jobs. That last one is actually not that many. When we see families or mainly women and children coming in, that’s not for work, that’s for humanitarian reasons, aka, all the other **** I listed above.

Re: the lack of meat processing plant workers, traditionally, most have been undocumented for decades, hence one reason all our food in this country is artificially cheaper than it should be. If companies are now not hiring illegals bc of increased ice enforcement or lack of bodies, then prices will go up.

The answer to the illegal immigration problem from Central America is for us to invest in our neighbors to the south. We played a big role in destabilizing that part of the world thru clandestine ops, (Iran contra anyone). We are now in part reaping what we sowed. Plus, ethically, it’s the right thing to do and our US companies will profit, and therefore so will me and anyone else who invests. And, we need to counter growing Chinese and Russian influence in that area, we have always treated south and Central America as a foreign policy afterthought, wr need to fix that.

well said sir.

eastwest2300 · 05-02-2021, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

Inflation is always a potential issue and I worry about it too.

But, those same inflation worries never came to pass despite all the deficit spending under Obama. The unfunded trump tax cuts of 2017 added 2T to our debt but no real inflation issue.

Yes Biden wants to add another 4Tin spending but it’s mostly targeted to something that is decades overdue, infrastructure and the rest helps a lot of folks ability to work, ie child care etc.

Now I don’t agree with all of his proposed spending plan, but if we get the infrastructure part even if it carries the other stuff, then it’s worth it IMO.

It’s also going to create a lot of good working class jobs an boost the stock market as our companies make money building up our country.

Re: inflation, our biggest saving grace on this is twofold. One, the US dollar is the world’s reserve currency (why do you think China is trying so hard to change that by replacing us on the world stage). Two, everyone, and I mean everyone in the world is drowning in national debt as bad or worse than we are, turkey, China, EU, and many EU member states etc.

The key to survive any possible inflation issue down the road is the same financial principles you should already be living by- live within your means, pay cash for everything as much as possible and be debt free or work hard towards it. And finally invest well divesfied stock portfolio.

Spot on.

Spoiler · 05-03-2021, 02:18 AM

Not sure if anyone recalls me posting that the Toyota Dealership called me last week and gave me a deposit back for an ordered vehicle that they decided to cancel due to lack of micro chips....

Well I was speaking with a friend in Wilmington NC last night who has (had) a new Bronco on order. He said Ford just gave him a deposit back also. Cancelling his order for him..

I guess if new car production slows, used car prices will be going up...

jchammond · 05-03-2021, 05:18 AM

Morning Folks

God-Speed · 05-03-2021, 06:58 AM

Good Monday Morning All. Hope you all had a good weekend. Got another 2" of rain on Saturday so that makes a total of 4" of rain here at the house since Friday.

93* for a high today with a 20% chance of rain. Hope it hold off so that I can get the yard mowed this afternoon. Time to get back at it after a week off from the gym. So time to rock.

Have a Great Monday Guys. Stay Safe, Stay Positive and Keep Washing Those Hands.

-ZS-Carpenter · 05-03-2021, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

Inflation is always a potential issue and I worry about it too.

But, those same inflation worries never came to pass despite all the deficit spending under Obama. The unfunded trump tax cuts of 2017 added 2T to our debt but no real inflation issue.

Yes Biden wants to add another 4Tin spending but it’s mostly targeted to something that is decades overdue, infrastructure and the rest helps a lot of folks ability to work, ie child care etc.

Now I don’t agree with all of his proposed spending plan, but if we get the infrastructure part even if it carries the other stuff, then it’s worth it IMO.

It’s also going to create a lot of good working class jobs an boost the stock market as our companies make money building up our country.

Re: inflation, our biggest saving grace on this is twofold. One, the US dollar is the world’s reserve currency (why do you think China is trying so hard to change that by replacing us on the world stage). Two, everyone, and I mean everyone in the world is drowning in national debt as bad or worse than we are, turkey, China, EU, and many EU member states etc.

The key to survive any possible inflation issue down the road is the same financial principles you should already be living by- live within your means, pay cash for everything as much as possible and be debt free or work hard towards it. And finally invest well divesfied stock portfolio.

Ahh yes. $4t in dept to get 1t worth of fixed roads and bridges and 3t to line the pockets of cronies.

I can't see why people would be against it.

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BettyZ · 05-03-2021, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter

Ahh yes. $4t in dept to get 1t worth of fixed roads and bridges and 3t to line the pockets of cronies.

I can't see why people would be against it.

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Ah, if only it were roads. A lot of that is going to expanding 'home healthcare workers' aka family members of the elderly. And guess what! In many states that's a unionized job.

So the unions negotiate with the lawmakers who are funding home health care with medicare. I see no issues with the total lack of checks and balances there.

onzedge · 05-03-2021, 08:37 AM

Greetings from Green Bay WI.

JLarson · 05-03-2021, 09:00 AM

Morning all! Hope your workday is short, your alcohol is potent, and that you aren't fired for mixing the two!

Rusty · 05-03-2021, 09:00 AM

I'z up.

Another rainy day. Looks like rain all week.

All this rain is putting me behind schedule with my yard work.

Leingod · 05-03-2021, 09:06 AM

Was that a wild OnZ I saw?!?!?!

Rusty · 05-03-2021, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spoiler

Not sure if anyone recalls me posting that the Toyota Dealership called me last week and gave me a deposit back for an ordered vehicle that they decided to cancel due to lack of micro chips....

Well I was speaking with a friend in Wilmington NC last night who has (had) a new Bronco on order. He said Ford just gave him a deposit back also. Cancelling his order for him..

I guess if new car production slows, used car prices will be going up...

Talking with middle stepson over the weekend. He a region manger for a credit union out west. He deals with auto loans mostly. What he said is that new vehicles are hard to get. And that is driving the prices way up on used cars. He then said that once new cars start to come in. The use car prices will come back down. BUT doesn't know when that will happen.

05-02-2021, 11:04 PM	#7067 (permalink)
FL 4Motion A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 4,776 Drives: Baby Shark Rep Power: 701615	I’m going to add one more point (or two) here bc this issue is kinda personal to me as well (immigration). Everyone that has come to this country has come bc they were being persecuted back home, were starving, or needed a job and economic opportunity. That covers the Puritans, the Irish, the Italians, the Jews, the Eastern Europeans…everyone except African Americans. Hell, even the native Americans came here across the Bering sea land bridge looking for game and land, they just happened to be the first humans to get here. We didn’t have any immigration restrictions at all in this country until we brought in Chinese workers for the western part of the transcontinental railroad building and we got a huge influx of Irish immigrants during the potato famine. And guess what the Chinese and Irish were considered not “American “, not white, not of good moral character, not “worthy” of being American and their immigration here was destroying our country and diluting our country. Same thing happened again with the Italians and the Eastern Europeans later. Our first immigration laws wren passed based on ethnic and racial bigotry and discrimination. Now, we see the same ****, the same bullsh1t arguments against my people, Hispanics, being trotted out again. Now, I agree 100% that we need immigration laws and we need a secure border. No question about that, but we can enforce those laws humanely and we can recognize that the Latinos coming here are no different than any of our ancestors who came here for the same reasons back in the day. I’ll say it again on here, our country is a country of immigrants, we have no distinctly unique American culture, it is a culture of “no culture, or all culture mixed together”. We see that with our food, American cuisine is a hodgepodge of all the cultures that have come here with a twist on it, we’re the ultimate fusion dish. The secret sauce to our success as a nation is our diversity. A crashing together of different ways of thinking etc is why we have so much innovation. When everyone looks, talks, and acts and thinks the same, you don’t get 5he internet, mass production, splitting the atom, putting men on the moon, social media, automobiles for everyone, the stock market, and on and on. By not being burdened by a culture or history that goes back 1000s of years, we are free to create new ideas/ideals (like our founding fathers/principles) We are defined as Americans not by race, creed, or ethnicity, or any other physical or geographic characteristics. We are defined by our principles and we are bound together by them, the idea that we have a god given right to individual life, liberty, and the persute of happiness. Everyone who lives here and is coming here wants the same thing. We. Have always become better and stronger and more profitable as a nation as a result of immigration. Don’t be scared just because they’re mostly tan and speak a different language from you. Within one or two generations, they’ll be completely “American” just like the Italians, Irish etc before them. eastwest2300 and Hotrodz like this.

05-03-2021, 02:18 AM	#7071 (permalink)
Spoiler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Central Florida Age: 65 Posts: 8,409 Drives: 21 Supra -Blk/Red Rep Power: 2684380	Not sure if anyone recalls me posting that the Toyota Dealership called me last week and gave me a deposit back for an ordered vehicle that they decided to cancel due to lack of micro chips.... Well I was speaking with a friend in Wilmington NC last night who has (had) a new Bronco on order. He said Ford just gave him a deposit back also. Cancelling his order for him.. I guess if new car production slows, used car prices will be going up... FL 4Motion, JARblue, Rusty and 9 others like this. Last edited by Spoiler; 05-03-2021 at 02:24 AM.

05-03-2021, 05:18 AM	#7072 (permalink)
jchammond A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Carolina Age: 58 Posts: 15,204 Drives: 13’ 370Z TS 7A/T Rep Power: 2684395	Morning Folks God-Speed, JARblue, Rusty and 5 others like this. __________________ MazWorx built long block \| FI-TT-100 Stage 2.75 \| IPT built 7A/T http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...s-musings.html

05-03-2021, 06:58 AM	#7073 (permalink)
God-Speed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Austin, Tx. Posts: 4,364 Drives: Prototype Rep Power: 2684377	Good Monday Morning All. Hope you all had a good weekend. Got another 2" of rain on Saturday so that makes a total of 4" of rain here at the house since Friday. 93* for a high today with a 20% chance of rain. Hope it hold off so that I can get the yard mowed this afternoon. Time to get back at it after a week off from the gym. So time to rock. Have a Great Monday Guys. Stay Safe, Stay Positive and Keep Washing Those Hands. JARblue, Hotrodz, johnxxx and 4 others like this.

05-03-2021, 09:00 AM	#7077 (permalink)
JLarson A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Media, PA Posts: 4,074 Drives: 14 Nissan 370z MR M6 Rep Power: 2684370	Morning all! Hope your workday is short, your alcohol is potent, and that you aren't fired for mixing the two! FL 4Motion, Rusty, Hotrodz and 5 others like this. __________________ 2014 370z Touring Sport Magma Red MT // BP Single Turbo 6467 // 63mm TB's // Z1 Ported Upper Mani // RJM Pedal // Zspeed Stage 3 Clutch // 526 WHP, 451 WTQ 2006 350z (Sold) // 1990 300zx (Sold) // 1985 300zx 2+2 (Sold)

05-03-2021, 09:00 AM	#7078 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,216 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	I'z up. Another rainy day. Looks like rain all week. All this rain is putting me behind schedule with my yard work. FL 4Motion, God-Speed, Hotrodz and 7 others like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

05-03-2021, 09:06 AM	#7079 (permalink)
Leingod A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Some Place Cold Posts: 16,060 Drives: In Circles Rep Power: 2684396	Was that a wild OnZ I saw?!?!?! Rusty, Hotrodz, Ghostvette and 4 others like this. __________________ I AM FLOOF! SOMEBODY FLOOF MY HORN!! ALL HAIL THE FLOOF!!I JUST FLOOFED ON THE FLOOR

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