The New “What did you do with your Z today” (with off topic replies) XXXIX

FL 4Motion · 02-17-2021, 08:51 PM

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I'm not a NIMBY type person - when I lived in N IL, I could see the dome of Dresden nuclear power plant from my back porch - but nuclear is not very eco-friendly. Mining/refining the materials for the reactors produces a lot of pollution. "Disposing" of the spent material is just an accident waiting to happen; we can't build containment structures that will survive what Mother Nature can dish out over the millennia required for the material to decay.

The only real solution is a lot less consumption of energy. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure out how to get usage down.

Increasing energy efficiency is a win win since it also saves you $$.

Fusion is much more efficient than fission but hasn’t been scalable up beyond the lab yet, we really need to push that since the waste is so much vastly reduced. Iirc, South Korea is leading the world in nuclear fusion development which is bs, USA should be working way harder on this.

Longer term a hydrogen powered economy is the real sustainable solution that won’t handicap amount of power production but again, we need to figure out how to produce hydrogen on a large scale w/o still using fossil fuels.

Solar is definitely a great addition in certain areas and like hotrodz said, eventually in the south west and Florida, every roof should have it. We also need technological breakthroughs regarding solar panel efficiency as well.

Basically we just have engineering and tech barriers which I’m bullish our country can overcome within the next decade or two.

In the meantime, we have plenty of oil and especially natural gas to bridge the gap without resorting to a omg, the sky is falling mentality, looking at you lefties.

eastwest2300 · 02-17-2021, 09:03 PM

stay warm boys and girls, its mucho frio in much of the country.

redondoaveb · 02-17-2021, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

In that case, stock block for the win.

redondoaveb · 02-17-2021, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by madwi

Got a good deal on that kit! Nice score!

I just couldn't pass it up especially since my motor has to come out anyway. And the good thing is, my sc kit is already sold as soon as I pull it out of the car. I had guys that wanted to pick it up today and/or give me a deposit to hold it for them

Spooler · 02-17-2021, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

The only way I could afford a mazworx build is if I were servicing people on my knees. I think I'll make due with the stock block

You service the women dude. WTH!!!!

Rusty · 02-17-2021, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

Increasing energy efficiency is a win win since it also saves you $$.

Fusion is much more efficient than fission but hasn’t been scalable up beyond the lab yet, we really need to push that since the waste is so much vastly reduced. Iirc, South Korea is leading the world in nuclear fusion development which is bs, USA should be working way harder on this.

Longer term a hydrogen powered economy is the real sustainable solution that won’t handicap amount of power production but again, we need to figure out how to produce hydrogen on a large scale w/o still using fossil fuels.

Solar is definitely a great addition in certain areas and like hotrodz said, eventually in the south west and Florida, every roof should have it. We also need technological breakthroughs regarding solar panel efficiency as well.

Basically we just have engineering and tech barriers which I’m bullish our country can overcome within the next decade or two.

In the meantime, we have plenty of oil and especially natural gas to bridge the gap without resorting to a omg, the sky is falling mentality, looking at you lefties.

Don't hold your breath on fusion. It won't happened in our life time. Take too much energy to produce it. You put more in then what you get out. My reading on it. They say 2025, then turn around and then say 2030, then 2035.

Think hydrogen is closer. It's the prefect fuel. Hydrogen and oxygen, and you get water for the by product. The problem now is that it still takes more energy to produce it. They are working on hydrogen generators to produce it cheap enough. The one draw back is when it burns. You can't see the flame. You could walk into it and not know it until you feel the heat and burn. We used it at the power plant to cool the generators. Talk about safety precautions.

Solar, you HAVE to keep the panels clean. If they are in a dusty area. You will have maintenance people that their only job is to keep the panels clean. Anything on the panels WILL cut down their output a lot.

redondoaveb · 02-17-2021, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

You service the women dude. WTH!!!!

I thought I was doing something wrong

FL 4Motion · 02-17-2021, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Don't hold your breath on fusion. It won't happened in our life time. Take too much energy to produce it. You put more in then what you get out. My reading on it. They say 2025, then turn around and then say 2030, then 2035.

Think hydrogen is closer. It's the prefect fuel. Hydrogen and oxygen, and you get water for the by product. The problem now is that it still takes more energy to produce it. They are working on hydrogen generators to produce it cheap enough. The one draw back is when it burns. You can't see the flame. You could walk into it and not know it until you feel the heat and burn. We used it at the power plant to cool the generators. Talk about safety precautions.

Solar, you HAVE to keep the panels clean. If they are in a dusty area. You will have maintenance people that their only job is to keep the panels clean. Anything on the panels WILL cut down their output a lot.

My research came to the same conclusions re. hydrogen and fusion. I agree that hydrogen as a viable answer is probably 10-20 years out and is our best bet.

Fusion is going to be essential for Mars and asteroid belt colonization though. We can’t talk about large scale power production in those environments or reliability powering deeper space craft (getting too far from the sun) without it.

Since there are 100s of trillions of dollars to be made in this space, I’m confident the technical hurdles will get cracked.

Never underestimate greed. It’s the not so secret sauce to our (capitalism’s) greatness.

jwick · 02-17-2021, 10:31 PM

Still alive here. We made it thru the sub-teen temps but lost power last night around 8p. Thankfully it’s been reasonable, hovered between 28-35* today. Power came back around 6p today. Think they are rolling blackouts to give everyone a little warmth in the house.

Really sucks to take PTO to sit here with no power.

FL 4Motion · 02-17-2021, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick

Still alive here. We made it thru the sub-teen temps but lost power last night around 8p. Thankfully it’s been reasonable, hovered between 28-35* today. Power came back around 6p today. Think they are rolling blackouts to give everyone a little warmth in the house.

Really sucks to take PTO to sit here with no power.

Damn. Stay safe I’m thinking warm thoughts for ya.

Spooler · 02-17-2021, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick

Still alive here. We made it thru the sub-teen temps but lost power last night around 8p. Thankfully it’s been reasonable, hovered between 28-35* today. Power came back around 6p today. Think they are rolling blackouts to give everyone a little warmth in the house.

Really sucks to take PTO to sit here with no power.

I guess I got it good on that part. Work will bring me a portable 35kw if need be. No PTO taking for me either. Had to do it several years ago after a hurricane. They took care of all of us.

cv129 · 02-17-2021, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick

Still alive here. We made it thru the sub-teen temps but lost power last night around 8p. Thankfully it’s been reasonable, hovered between 28-35* today. Power came back around 6p today. Think they are rolling blackouts to give everyone a little warmth in the house.

Really sucks to take PTO to sit here with no power.

The initial rolling blackout was announced to be 15-45 min each round....but that literally became hours at a time within 24hrs Texans were warned. Now we are told to conserve water (don't do long hot shower, dishes, laundry) and natural gas....wtf like we going back to stone age...

On the flip side, I got to demonstrate to the wife driving on snow vs dry, then snow vs ice, in the family sedan. She's never driven on snow or ice before. The family car still has RE11's on (didn't switch to all-season this winter) the most mundane driving became the utmost difficult task.

Now the wifey knows.

Rusty · 02-17-2021, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick

Still alive here. We made it thru the sub-teen temps but lost power last night around 8p. Thankfully it’s been reasonable, hovered between 28-35* today. Power came back around 6p today. Think they are rolling blackouts to give everyone a little warmth in the house.

Really sucks to take PTO to sit here with no power.

That's why I have a small generator, 55 gal drum of gas, and 2 kerosene heaters with 25 gals of kerosene. Plus 6 oil lamps and big candles.

eastwest2300 · 02-17-2021, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

I just couldn't pass it up especially since my motor has to come out anyway. And the good thing is, my sc kit is already sold as soon as I pull it out of the car. I had guys that wanted to pick it up today and/or give me a deposit to hold it for them

get me a FI kit duude.

eastwest2300 · 02-17-2021, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick

Still alive here. We made it thru the sub-teen temps but lost power last night around 8p. Thankfully it’s been reasonable, hovered between 28-35* today. Power came back around 6p today. Think they are rolling blackouts to give everyone a little warmth in the house.

Really sucks to take PTO to sit here with no power.

damn dude, hang in there bud.

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eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 90,985 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684550	stay warm boys and girls, its mucho frio in much of the country. FL 4Motion and redondoaveb like this. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

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jwick A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 14,532 Drives: '10 G37 6MT Rep Power: 2465056	Still alive here. We made it thru the sub-teen temps but lost power last night around 8p. Thankfully it’s been reasonable, hovered between 28-35* today. Power came back around 6p today. Think they are rolling blackouts to give everyone a little warmth in the house. Really sucks to take PTO to sit here with no power. FL 4Motion, Rusty, Pintsize725 and 5 others like this. __________________ '10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

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