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redondoaveb · 06-05-2020, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I hate drugs as much as anyone, but I didn't know that deserves public execution.

You're saying he was killed because the cops knew he was on drugs?

SouthArk370Z · 06-05-2020, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

You're saying he was killed because the cops knew he was on drugs?

That's not the way I read it. I took it as meaning that even if he was doing drugs that doesn't make him so unworthy as to deserve death. YMMV

redondoaveb · 06-05-2020, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

That's not the way I read it. I took it as meaning that even if he was doing drugs that doesn't make him so unworthy as to deserve death. YMMV

I agree with that. Of course not. He didn't deserve to die for any of his past or present issues. My point is that he is be portrayed as an angel and that is being disingenuous.

Hotrodz · 06-05-2020, 02:47 PM

This is the stuff that clouds our ability to have a cogent conversation about the inhumanity of humans against other humans. The fact is that prejudice and bias is in human DNA. It occurs in all cultures throughout the world. In many cultures it acceptable right, wrong or indifferent however in America through our journey we have proclaimed that all are created equal and should be treated as such. The treatment of Blacks as second class citizens or as animals is steeped in our history regardless of a single person's behavior. Black people continue to be treated less than in this great country and our continuing struggle together is to narrow that gap for all citizens. The reality is that as much as try there always will be the have and have nots. How we decided to live together share resources, appreciate what each culture or race has to offer the better we will thrive together. George Floyd may not be extra ordinary but his death is in what it represents to the senseless killings of people of color that continues today.

I appreciate the conversation and all the points of view and prospectives by you all that willing to speak up and try to understand it all. It is difficult for me as well as Black person that has experienced bias, prejudice and great love and support from White people and others. It is what breaks my heart and gives me hope! DON'T STOP TALKING as it has lead to this!!! We have given up to degree because it is hard, we have given up because we think enough has been done, we have given up because Blacks will never be satisfied, we have given up because some Blacks have taken advantage of whatever.

We must not give in to all the noise that surrounds the conversation of how do we continue to struggle and strive to be better together.

Much Love and Respect!
Bob

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cossie1600 · 06-05-2020, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

You're saying he was killed because the cops knew he was on drugs?

Nope, I just didn't know drug use equal public execution. If that is the case, can we at least apply the force equally to the other drug users of other color. Heck, let's make sure we take out all drug users, I am sick of weed heads talking about how wonderful weed is.

We keep letting these police brutality escalate, the more of these videos/protests/riots we are going to see. This is not just about color either (although the people of color are more impacted by it for sure), but the escalation has got to stop. On the other hand, tougher punishments for the offenders would help too. Why are we being nice to people who keeps more of the same?

This will burn out after another week or two, but it won't take long before it happens again. Matter of fact, it is bound to happen. The wealth gap is going to get even bigger after this virus. The country's leadership is poor. The media is driving people to the extreme either way. We are so screwed.

SouthArk370Z · 06-05-2020, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

You're saying he was killed because the cops knew he was on drugs?

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

I agree with that. Of course not. He didn't deserve to die for any of his past or present issues. My point is that he is be portrayed as an angel and that is being disingenuous.

And my point was that I didn't think that you had interpreted cossie1600's comment correctly. Not whether or not your comments about Mr. Floyd were right.

redondoaveb · 06-05-2020, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

And my point was that I didn't think that you had interpreted cossie1600's comment correctly. Not whether or not your comments about Mr. Floyd were right.

I knew that

Zoren 370 · 06-05-2020, 10:10 PM

Lets put everything in proper prospective just because I didn’t see the way you see things Mr Sierra you insinuate that Im not empathic about the whole situation.

Just because I didn’t type the full name of GF Im branded as disingenuous?
Who is stereotyping or profiling now?

You talk high and mighty about equality and value of life..

When you can’t even respect my own opinion about it..but you have to insinuate that Im an apathetic human being.

So are you saying to have equality in society I have to agree to what your beliefs and values in life? I have to agree on what matters to you most? So you can stay in this forum?

What I saw in the videos is a human being being abused with excessive force by another human being! That is unacceptable, deplorable and demeaning as humans, unworthy of any emulation.

Just because I do not agree and have the same emotion as you have on the situation. You refuse to dine with me on the table and enjoy a decent meal as brothers?

We want reforms...we want change....we want equality...we want justice...we want everything!

Its always “what can I have” ... but never “what I can give” to make this world a better place for both of us even in different culture, different color, different language you name it...

Life is hard its never easy...but it doesn’t give you the right to commit a crime because you have nothing...You have nothing because you dont know the meaning of what is giving. It doesn’t give you the right to burn down business, loot stores, burn cars because your angry...you’ve been abused! Besides no Life was lost?!!

Wow and that’s acceptable to you? You rather save Life!

I always knew the greatest gift is the right to Choose what Life you want to live.

But You rather steal...sell drugs...buy cigarettes with counterfeit $20 bills and justify its ok because I have nothing....I deserve to get that away from you because you have more!.....because Im a victim of life's hardship..

Unfortunately another Criminal in uniform ( an Animal a blood hungry Animal) comes by and caught up with another criminal....guess what happens? End of story.

You know I wake up at 4am because I like to My yard to look good so I water it so it would look green and healthy so that all my neighbors would love to see my environment would be pleasant and be admired ..I took the sacrifice of making it better not just for me but for other humans to play and even attract neighbors dogs to poop on it...its ok I clean it..,to me that is a compliment.

But some how weeds keeps on sprouting on my beautiful yard....trying to suffocate my beautiful centipede grass... what do you think I need to do with the weeds! In order to maintain my green grass nice for everyone to enjoy!
Would I allow it to get destroyed by weeds?

You tell me Mr. Sierra... I respect you and I will follow your sound advice!

Rusty · 06-05-2020, 10:29 PM

Hey........wait a minute! You can't use the word "deplorable" in you post!.

Because that's what Hillary called me at the last election. A deplorable.

Zoren 370 · 06-05-2020, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Hey........wait a minute! You can't use the word "deplorable" in you post!.

Because that's what Hillary called me at the last election. A deplorable.

Ok is Despicable Me a better choice?

Rusty · 06-05-2020, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370

Ok is Despicable Me a better choice?

Hillary called me Deplorable. So.....I guess it's ok for you to call me Despicable. I've been called worse by better people then me.

Zoren 370 · 06-05-2020, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Hillary called me Deplorable. So.....I guess it's ok for you to call me Despicable. I've been called worse by better people then me.

But I still love you!

JARblue · 06-06-2020, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

At this point in time, Mr. Floyd is just as famous as Mr. King.

That is one hell of an ignorant statement if you ask me. Exposure and fame may be the same thing. But that's no comparison to MLK.

And nitpicking abbreviations on the internet? Really?

Rusty · 06-06-2020, 03:28 AM

The Chicago mayor is begging Walmart and other large retailers not to leave. Walmart is deciding which stores not to reopen at the moment. A few of the other retailers told her that there is a good chance that they will not reopen some stores too because of the riots, and that she did nothing to protect the stores. They can't operate in that type of environment.

Zoren 370 · 06-06-2020, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

The Chicago mayor is begging Walmart and other large retailers not to leave. Walmart is deciding which stores not to reopen at the moment. A few of the other retailers told her that there is a good chance that they will not reopen some stores too because of the riots, and that she did nothing to protect the stores. They can't operate in that type of environment.

Its ok Rusty no life would perish due to Walmart deciding not to reopen. Life would be saved!

Now Former employees of Walmart good citizens, good tax payers ... will join the numbers of unemployment ....would suffer and default in paying their rent ...paying thier cars.... paying credit cards.... no xmas toys for their kids this year....would probably resort to petty crimes to survive...a good citizen who eventually turn into an animal...,and the cycle goes on....

No life has been taken .... only businesses!!!

Lets move on to riot for equality, peace and unity across America! The Land of the Brave and of the free looting!

Im gonna water my yard this morning...bring my roundup and my AR15 cane.

06-05-2020, 02:47 PM	#139 (permalink)
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06-05-2020, 10:10 PM	#143 (permalink)
Zoren 370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL Posts: 11,018 Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 1913653	Lets put everything in proper prospective just because I didn’t see the way you see things Mr Sierra you insinuate that Im not empathic about the whole situation. Just because I didn’t type the full name of GF Im branded as disingenuous? Who is stereotyping or profiling now? You talk high and mighty about equality and value of life.. When you can’t even respect my own opinion about it..but you have to insinuate that Im an apathetic human being. So are you saying to have equality in society I have to agree to what your beliefs and values in life? I have to agree on what matters to you most? So you can stay in this forum? What I saw in the videos is a human being being abused with excessive force by another human being! That is unacceptable, deplorable and demeaning as humans, unworthy of any emulation. Just because I do not agree and have the same emotion as you have on the situation. You refuse to dine with me on the table and enjoy a decent meal as brothers? We want reforms...we want change....we want equality...we want justice...we want everything! Its always “what can I have” ... but never “what I can give” to make this world a better place for both of us even in different culture, different color, different language you name it... Life is hard its never easy...but it doesn’t give you the right to commit a crime because you have nothing...You have nothing because you dont know the meaning of what is giving. It doesn’t give you the right to burn down business, loot stores, burn cars because your angry...you’ve been abused! Besides no Life was lost?!! Wow and that’s acceptable to you? You rather save Life! I always knew the greatest gift is the right to Choose what Life you want to live. But You rather steal...sell drugs...buy cigarettes with counterfeit $20 bills and justify its ok because I have nothing....I deserve to get that away from you because you have more!.....because Im a victim of life's hardship.. Unfortunately another Criminal in uniform ( an Animal a blood hungry Animal) comes by and caught up with another criminal....guess what happens? End of story. You know I wake up at 4am because I like to My yard to look good so I water it so it would look green and healthy so that all my neighbors would love to see my environment would be pleasant and be admired ..I took the sacrifice of making it better not just for me but for other humans to play and even attract neighbors dogs to poop on it...its ok I clean it..,to me that is a compliment. But some how weeds keeps on sprouting on my beautiful yard....trying to suffocate my beautiful centipede grass... what do you think I need to do with the weeds! In order to maintain my green grass nice for everyone to enjoy! Would I allow it to get destroyed by weeds? You tell me Mr. Sierra... I respect you and I will follow your sound advice! FL 4Motion, SouthArk370Z, Rusty and 1 others like this. Last edited by Zoren 370; 06-05-2020 at 10:23 PM.

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Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,177 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	The Chicago mayor is begging Walmart and other large retailers not to leave. Walmart is deciding which stores not to reopen at the moment. A few of the other retailers told her that there is a good chance that they will not reopen some stores too because of the riots, and that she did nothing to protect the stores. They can't operate in that type of environment. Zoren 370, redondoaveb and bunk like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

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