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Originally Posted by RumbleFish Are you saying that Fox News and other right wingers don't do the same, if not worse? Really? https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/07/polit...ran/index.html https://www.newstatesman.com/world/n...gn-things-come Please tell me where in my

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Old 06-03-2020, 02:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Are you saying that Fox News and other right wingers don't do the same, if not worse?

Really?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/07/polit...ran/index.html

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/n...gn-things-come
Please tell me where in my statement did I say that "Fox News and other right wingers dont do the same, if not worse". Ill be waiting.....
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Please tell me where in my statement did I say that "Fox News and other right wingers dont do the same, if not worse". Ill be waiting.....
People like to assume. You know what that makes ...

It's very similar to people who respond with "All lives matter." There's not an implied "only" at the beginning of the phrase "Black lives matter," you dip; there's an implied "too" at the end of it
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Please tell me where in my statement did I say that "Fox News and other right wingers dont do the same, if not worse". Ill be waiting.....
Gonna be a looooonnnnnggggg wait.
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Where I live at. We have one full time cop and 3 part time cops. When they are not on duty. If you call 911. You might get the state police in about an hour or so. Depending how many of them are on duty, and if they are in a different part of the county. Basically, you're on your own. The retired chief lives across the street, 2 houses up. I know the other ones. They all are good people.
This brings up a good point actually. In a small town or more rural area, everyone knows everyone and the police are your neighbors, friends, acquaintances. It’s a lot harder to dehumanize and abuse folks you know even if you don’t like them, (assuming we aren’t talking about a straight up sociopath).

In large urban areas, without a strong concerted effort to walk the beat, get to know folks and engage in community policing, you tend to get a police force that looks like an occupying military with fobs in strategic locations and the cops running combat and recon mounted patrols. This builds fear and distrust between both the citizens and the police.

If the police feel like they aren’t part of the community they serve, and the people don’t feel like the police are there to help them, distrust, fear grow and leads to terrible outcomes.

Now, add in to the above, the catastrophic “war on drugs” which decimated communities of color disproportionately And really began the militarization of our police forces, the offshoring of decent semi skilled manual labor jobs in the 70s on up (Baltimore’s docks are a good example), the criminalization of poverty, and of course our country’s as yet unhealed original sin of slavery, aka racism

And you get police brutality, it’s almost guaranteed.

This isn’t going to get better until we as a country acknowledge both the good and the bad in our history. There was a post a while back on here that very succinctly listed all the bad regarding African Americans/slavery and institutional racism from our earliest days to present.

At its core racism makes one group view another as subhuman, we do this type of thing all the time bc in order to commit violence on another group of people, or disenfranchise them, they must be viewed as other and worse than us, this also keeps public opinion on your side. War is a perfect example, we don’t kill our equal people who we respect and view as fully human, we kill krauts, japs, gooks, hajis etc. it makes it less traumatic and easier to justify. It applies from the other side too, Americans are evil capitalists, the white devil etc.

Europeans didn’t view Africans as inferior until the expansion of slavery in the 1600s. Then you suddenly get “science”, pseudo science like phrenology falling all over themselves to justify slavery bc “they’re” not equal. These attitudes are still engrained in our society today. The heartbreaking thing is, it’s unbridled capitalism that leads to slavery, after all the lowest cost for labor is free labor. Capitalism without ethics, or morals (if you want a more religious word) always leads to evil outcomes. It hurts the victims but it also hurts society and the folks that economically benefit from it too. Violence begets violence, the pre civil war south was much more violent than the north, even white on white violence bc when your surrounded by pain suffering, cheapening of human life, that’s what tends to get reflected back.


I am a patriot, I love and have sacrificed for this country and ALL her people. I believe in the aspirational ideals of our constitution and bill of rights. But those things and the American dream, the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness must apply equally fairly and justly to All citizens. We’re not there yet.
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Your comment only mentioned cnn & msnbc.

I merely asked a question.
Putting words in my mouth is not merely asking a question.
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Your comment only mentioned cnn & msnbc.

I merely asked a question.
So if he added Fox, that would have been enough for you? How about BBC? What about the Chinese or Russian media outlets? Does he have to mention every single media outlet in existence for the statement not to be questioned?
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I heard from a grapevine starting next year we will be celebrating MLK day and GF day!

I have high respect for the belief and principles of MLK.....but

whats actually the true life story of GF? Who is he as a person to society?

I denounce the way he was treated and allegedly died at the hands of the unlawful police officers.

Im denouncing the act....period

But to idolize and emulate GF....God forgive us of our transgression and the manner how we adore evil!

Politicians even use GF to get popular votes of people to keep them in power.
This is sickening to my stomach!

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-up...or-coronavirus

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Where are the nurses, doctors, paramedics who died saving lives because of the Covid19.

But no GF lived a better life and died heroically than these people.. he deserves the all the credit in society. Yes people that is what have we become!

GF life matters the most!

Haters of good lovers of evil!
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