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Zoren 370 06-04-2020 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 3939328)
Nobody said GEORGE FLOYD died heroically.

The man died while crying out for his late-mother.

Your lack of empathy hurts my soul.


Well then I empathize to your soul!

Like I said I do not condone the manner how he was treated while conducting what should have been a lawful arrest. No human being deserves to die or be killed in such manner. Justice is being served rightfully. Due process is being served.

But to use GF death to instigate civil unrest, looting and burning of business establishments , promoting hatred and violence to other men in uniform and victimizing peace loving citizen is utterly a disgrace and equally deserving the punishment of the law.

Did you empathize to the business owners who's stores got looted and destroyed...To the people who got hurt and injured during the riot?

Did you see or hear as well the cry of these people calling for mercy or even their call for their late mother as their livelihood got burned and looted...or you see them just another victim of the preceding circumstances ..obviously It didn’t capture your attention as much as it doest merit such big spectacle as the event you empathized!

ZontheRocks 06-05-2020 06:56 AM

Those that want to burn and loot are part of the problem as much as the lack of action amongst those that watch bad peoples do bad things and do nothing.

I’ll take saving a life over saving a business everyday of the week.

Justice is being served rightfully? Due process is being served? Both were FORCED to happen due to video.

How many videos do you need to see of those in uniform, paid by citizens, threatening and attacking those that are not doing any of the things that you laid out?

And for you to write of the long *** diatribe and still refuse to even type out GEORGE FLOYD’s name is disingenuous.

Zoren 370 06-05-2020 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 3939421)
Those that want to burn and loot are part of the problem as much as the lack of action amongst those that watch bad peoples do bad things and do nothing.

I’ll take saving a life over saving a business everyday of the week.

Justice is being served rightfully? Due process is being served? Both were FORCED to happen due to video.

How many videos do you need to see of those in uniform, paid by citizens, threatening and attacking those that are not doing any of the things that you laid out?

And for you to write of the long *** diatribe and still refuse to even type out GEORGE FLOYD’s name is disingenuous.


You rather save life over saving business all day of the week? I really need to empathize on how you think!

How do you get your resources to sustain your life?...please enlighten me so I will understand you better.

Also Type your full name here so I will know you too.

ZontheRocks 06-05-2020 08:48 AM

Daniel Sierra, Orlando, Florida.

I am not afraid to stand by my words.

bunk 06-05-2020 08:56 AM

Tuck your penises back into your panties boys...:inoutroflpuke:

ZontheRocks 06-05-2020 08:57 AM

And nice of you to gloss over the other points I presented in my post.

People make businesses run, not the other way around. I stand by my previous statement.

Employees that are treated well make up the best places to work. Because they feel valued.

Now replace 'business' with 'United States of America' and 'employees' with 'citizens'.

SouthArk370Z 06-05-2020 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 3939421)
... refuse to even type out GEORGE FLOYD’s name is disingenuous.

Since his comments were in a thread about the looting currently going on in many cities, I fail to see how using "GF" is anything but a typing shortcut. But I can't see into his head so it is possible that he was being "disingenuous." Going by his previous posts, I'm guessing not.

Just to play The Devil's Advocate: Why didn't you chide him for using "MLK"? At this point in time, Mr. Floyd is just as famous as Mr. King.

We have a street in my town the was renamed to MLK. I still refer to the street by it's old name. Not because I don't think that Mr. King deserves to have a street named after him but because I knew the street by its old name for about 40 years and it is firmly implanted in my brain as such.

We also have a street named after Robt. E. Lee*. If they change the name, as some want to do, I will continue to call it REL. Not because I think Mr. Lee deserves to have a street named after him, but because that's what I've known it as for 60+ years.

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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 3939466)
And nice of you to gloss over the other points I presented in my post. ...

Maybe he didn't comment on your other points because he agreed with them. Maybe not. Once again, I can't see into his head but, based on his prev posts, I'm willing to go with the former until I see different.


*Edit: I spelled out REL's name the first time because, in this context, it is not obvious who REL is.

bunk 06-05-2020 10:05 AM

Granting GF a day to memorialize him on the same day as MLK, is a disservice to what MLK had done and what he stood for.
GF did not deserve to die for whatever crime he committed, and those responsible for his death certainly need to be held accountable. However, GF was NOT an angel. If you think he needs to be put onto a pedestal, ask the lady he held at gun point while she was robbed if she feels the same way. My memory isnt the greatest these days, but Im fairly certain that the great MLK never committed any crimes even remotely close to that.

ZontheRocks 06-05-2020 10:22 AM

No worries guys. I'm done in here.

It was fun that we came together over a car, but it is obvious that we are far apart on our views and values on human life and the justice and equality that they deserve.

Rusty 06-05-2020 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 3939495)
No worries guys. I'm done in here.

It was fun that we came together over a car, but it is obvious that we are far apart on our views and values on human life and the justice and equality that they deserve.

I was taught a long time ago that 2 things that you do not talk about at family gatherings. That's politics and religion. Fastest way to start fights.

SouthArk370Z 06-05-2020 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 3939495)
No worries guys. I'm done in here.

It was fun that we came together over a car, but it is obvious that we are far apart on our views and values on human life and the justice and equality that they deserve.

So, because we can't agree on everything, you're going to bail?

So far, I haven't seen anybody say anything that even remotely indicated that they did not value all lives. Just because somebody doesn't think a particular person deserves a holiday named after them doesn't mean they don't value that person's life - just that they are not the extra-special type of person that does deserve it.

Good luck in your bubble/echo-chamber.

redondoaveb 06-05-2020 11:45 AM

I think Candace Owens said it best. "No question officer Chauvin committed a crime. I hope George Floyd's family gets justice. But Floyd held a gun to the belly of a pregnant woman...he is neither a martyr or a hero"

JLarson 06-05-2020 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3939516)
I think Candace Owens said it best. "No question officer Chauvin committed a crime. I hope George Floyd's family gets justice. But Floyd held a gun to the belly of a pregnant woman...he is neither a martyr or a hero"

Sure, more than a decade prior, Floyd was a drug addict, and an *******. He also did his time, and there is ample evidence he turned his life around afterwards, and spoke articulately on the subject advising other people to avoid his poor life choices.

redondoaveb 06-05-2020 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3939519)
Sure, more than a decade prior, Floyd was a drug addict, and an *******. He also did his time, and there is ample evidence he turned his life around afterwards, and spoke articulately on the subject advising other people to avoid his poor life choices.

Yet methamphetamine and fentanyl were found in his system during the autopsy. Looks like he was still making poor life choices.

cossie1600 06-05-2020 12:49 PM

I hate drugs as much as anyone, but I didn't know that deserves public execution.


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